Google Trends: The REAL facts

[soniqstylz]

You do realize that chart shows HD-DVD winning in japan, right?

[Frumious Boojum]

Actually, as far as I can tell, the chart shows HD-DVD winning pretty much everywhere.

So, how's this supposed to help a Blu cause?

[blix01]

Originally Posted by Frumious Boojum

Actually, as far as I can tell, the chart shows HD-DVD winning pretty much everywhere.

What chart are you looking at?! lol

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Frumious Boojum

Actually, as far as I can tell, the chart shows HD-DVD winning pretty much everywhere.

So, how's this supposed to help a Blu cause?

How exactly do you get that from a chart that shows blu winning everywhere? You're probably looking at the worng graph. The OP was deriding the first chart as inaccurate then created there own which is more accurate. Read the right one.

[Frumious Boojum]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

How exactly do you get that from a chart that shows blu winning everywhere? You're probably looking at the worng graph. The OP was deriding the first chart as inaccurate then created there own which is more accurate. Read the right one.

I'm looking at the second link that was supposed to be more accurate. For every country, every city, and every language, I'm seeing a rather long red bar and a rather short blue bar. On the total for the past 12 months, it shows consistently the HD-DVD bar far above the blu.

Here's a screenshot:

googlebluhd.png

And a close-up of the total:

googlebluhd2.png

So, as you see, the red is clearly winning over all the blue.

Unless I'm reading it seriously wrong and the numbers closer to 0 are the winners... but as far as I know, the chart is plotting number of searches, not ranks.

[blix01]

I'm totally not seeing that.

[wostertag]

Originally Posted by Frumious Boojum

I'm looking at the second link that was supposed to be more accurate. For every country, every city, and every language, I'm seeing a rather long red bar and a rather short blue bar. On the total for the past 12 months, it shows consistently the HD-DVD bar far above the blu.

Here's a screenshot:

Attachment 1154

And a close-up of the total:

Attachment 1155

So, as you see, the red is clearly winning over all the blue.

Unless I'm reading it seriously wrong and the numbers closer to 0 are the winners... but as far as I know, the chart is plotting number of searches, not ranks.

You need to put the parenthesis back around the search terms.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Frumious Boojum

I'm looking at the second link that was supposed to be more accurate. For every country, every city, and every language, I'm seeing a rather long red bar and a rather short blue bar. On the total for the past 12 months, it shows consistently the HD-DVD bar far above the blu.

Here's a screenshot:

Attachment 1154

And a close-up of the total:

Attachment 1155

So, as you see, the red is clearly winning over all the blue.

Unless I'm reading it seriously wrong and the numbers closer to 0 are the winners... but as far as I know, the chart is plotting number of searches, not ranks.

As the other guy said, you've obviously done something to the search criteria to botch the results, not saying it was intentional. None of us gets that when we just click the link and look at it. It shows the opposite... just like everyone is telling you.

[The Don]

HD-DVD has the top 10 and top 25....but BD smokes them in the top 100 sales...

we win because we have an impact in the top 100 sales being that we don't rely on a select number of titles for a win....we have what people call a library of quality options

[The Don]

wow...what chart is he looking at?

when I checked the google chart...it's entirely different..

the previous chart i was referring to was on eproductwars.com...

but this guys chart is on crack...the red kind...

red can't be good

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by soniqstylz

You do realize that chart shows HD-DVD winning in japan, right?

It isn't really about "winning" it's a gauge of curiousity based on internet searches. In Japan there could be several anomalies. 1) Blu is dominant there so maybe people are searching because they already know about blu and truly wonder what HD-DVD even is... how many Americans Google McDonald's or WalMart? 2) Google is not the prime search engine in Japan so their numbers may be off.

[atomik kinder]

Originally Posted by soniqstylz

You do realize that chart shows HD-DVD winning in japan, right?

Because they are probably trying to figure out what the hell it HD DVD is.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by soniqstylz

You do realize that chart shows HD-DVD winning in japan, right?

HD means Hard Drive in Japan.

Order doesn't matter so, DVD HD is the same thing and it's a way to look for HDD-equiped DVD recorders.

I was told by an insider of a meeting he had with Toshiba engineers in Japan, and he asked about HD DVD, and it took the engineers 5 minutes to realize he wasn't talking about HDD DVD recorders.

Gary

[Frumious Boojum]

Very odd... now it's showing something where HD-DVD only spikes above blu a couple of times.

I swear. All I did was click on the link.

[jd213]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

HD means Hard Drive in Japan.

Order doesn't matter so, DVD HD is the same thing and it's a way to look for HDD-equiped DVD recorders.

I was told by an insider of a meeting he had with Toshiba engineers in Japan, and he asked about HD DVD, and it took the engineers 5 minutes to realize he wasn't talking about HDD DVD recorders.

Gary

People in Japan will also search using Japanese characters for Blu-ray (ブルーレイ) but not HD DVD since it's an acronym, so that's another factor that makes Blu-ray look less popular.

[TheTenth]

to be 100% accurate shouldn't there be :
- Blu-ray , Bluray and Blu-ray
against
- HD DVD, HD-DVD and HDDVD ?

[The Don]

Originally Posted by TheTenth

to be 100% accurate shouldn't there be :
- Blu-ray , Bluray and Blu-ray
against
- HD DVD, HD-DVD and HDDVD ?

and honestly..."blue-ray"...people don't mess up the hd-dvd name...it is what it is..with/without a hyphen or a space...

but a lot of people, even columnists that we've seen even spell it blue-ray...

[edgebsl]

HD DVD has been slamming amazon. I dont think this google chart is a good consolation prize. WHat do we only look at the good news? I dont want to turn into hd dvd and put my head in the sand when I hear bad news..

Obviously there has been some giveaways affecting that. They figured out we have been watching those numbers so they found the best way to make them move. Its nice to see the bogo up today, but it would be nice to see a big ps3 + movies promo.

HD DVDers have always said amazon was insignificant, however this is proof they dont think so. Amazon is the only online outlet that gets tracked by neilsen?(Am I right?) so I'd say it does matter.

I'd like to see it turnaround. Bogos will help but I think everyone has gotten what they wanted from those, and just putting the same titles on sale is not going to do it over and over.

It would be nice to see also a "Buy a blu ray player, put X free movies in your shopping cart for free" This is obvioulsy how they have done it and would be great for the attach rate of new ps3s to do that. With a handful of free movies, that ps3 owner is going to get hooked.