Does anyone accually remember this Disney movie? - Blu-ray Forum

Nerdkiller likes BD · 03-08-2008, 09:47 PM

The sequel to the much beloved Aladdin, it was created after Disney decided to close all holes (or so they thought) in the first Aladdin, plus make more cash.

I never seen it before but I've heard bad things about this movie, which is rare for somethin' that comes out of Disney. Wtanoto and other Disney fans, can I have your say on this?

iNCREDiPiNOY · 03-08-2008, 09:53 PM

I still remember this movie. I have all 3 series on VHS.

richterbon23 · 03-08-2008, 10:05 PM

this movie is pretty good. compared to some of the sequels they come out with now... this one is very good. much better than the third, i would suggest a watch if you havent seen it

DutchBoy · 03-08-2008, 10:09 PM

I thought it was pretty good, although sans Robin Williams if I remember correctly.

ManUtd · 03-08-2008, 10:14 PM

I think I still have that on DVD.

red_5ive · 03-08-2008, 10:19 PM

I had it on laser disc. It was decent, but Genie just isn't the same without Robin Williams.

mkelley · 03-08-2008, 10:20 PM

If I remember right Dan Castelano (sp?) the voice of Homer Simpson does the genie in that one.

It's okay as far as direct-to-video stuff goes -- as someone here said, better than the third, not even within 100 miles of the first. As with all DTV Disney animation, it's farmed out to the Asian animators who do about 1/3 of the frames the traditional Disney stuff has, so it looks *much* better on the small screen than the big one (so don't be showing it off on your projection system :>)

Nerdkiller likes BD · 03-08-2008, 10:37 PM

You mean there's a 3rd one?!?!?!

cartman781 · 03-08-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

You mean there's a 3rd one?!?!?!

Yes there are 3 of them

Tai-Pan · 03-09-2008, 11:13 AM

Yeah, the third one is called The King Of Thieves:

Robin does the voice of the Genie in this one.

Ernest Rister · 03-09-2008, 06:35 PM

The animation in both is pretty bad -- I think one of the worst things that ever happened to the Disney studios was the success of Return of Jafar. It was essentially the three-part "pilot" of the animated Aladdin syndicated TV series, following in the footsteps of DuckTails and Tale Spin (which also aired with a three-part "pilot" for network broadcast as a "movie").

So Disney decided to try and do a direct to video instead of a network broadcast, and the title sold like hotcakes. Disney immediately began producing more of these cheaply made direct to video titles (later branded "cheapquels" by the animation community), and their effect on the marketplace was devastating.

These cheapquels created a glut in the animation marketplace, removing the "event" status of a Disney animated title. The lack of quality was so apparent, the cheapquels also degraded the hard-won value of the Disney brand name in animation. The mantle of "best animated studio in America" was taken by Pixar, while Disney's grosses for their new animated films declined lower and lower.

Eisner and the entertainment media seemed all too happy to place the blame on hand-drawn animation, thinking audiences no longer cared for moving drawings in favor of CGI. The truth was the marketplace was glutted with cheap fare, the cheapquels had eroded the value of the Disney brand name, and the hand-drawn features had become stale and formula-driven.

If I were CEO of Disney, I'd see to it that every print and every negative of every cheapquel title was destroyed. So fans of The Return of Jafar, be gald I'm not CEO of Disney.

guitarist155 · 03-09-2008, 06:40 PM

yep i own one and 2 on vhs

Sylin · 03-09-2008, 09:05 PM

RoJ was Disney's most successful direct-to-video release, and isn't all that bad, IMHO. I'd pick it up on Blu... would be nice if Disney bundled all 3 together, tho.

Stephie_is_a_dork · 03-09-2008, 09:52 PM

Aladdin is my favorite animated Disney movie of all times. I wasn't crazy about return of Jafar. Actually, I didn't like it at all. Aladdin and the Prince of Thieves was okay, we got to meet Aladdin's father, Aladdin and Jasmine were finally gonna get married...it was acceptable.

john_1958 · 03-18-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

The sequel to the much beloved Aladdin, it was created after Disney decided to close all holes (or so they thought) in the first Aladdin, plus make more cash.

I never seen it before but I've heard bad things about this movie, which is rare for somethin' that comes out of Disney. Wtanoto and other Disney fans, can I have your say on this?

i still have it

simsim2509 · 03-18-2008, 06:44 PM

That was a great movie, i was less impressed by the 3rd, although you can never beat the first movie. I hear that Aladdin is coming to blu-ray some time although no news of late or even a release date.

Polyh3dron · 03-19-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

The animation in both is pretty bad -- I think one of the worst things that ever happened to the Disney studios was the success of Return of Jafar. It was essentially the three-part "pilot" of the animated Aladdin syndicated TV series, following in the footsteps of DuckTails and Tale Spin (which also aired with a three-part "pilot" for network broadcast as a "movie").

So Disney decided to try and do a direct to video instead of a network broadcast, and the title sold like hotcakes. Disney immediately began producing more of these cheaply made direct to video titles (later branded "cheapquels" by the animation community), and their effect on the marketplace was devastating.

These cheapquels created a glut in the animation marketplace, removing the "event" status of a Disney animated title. The lack of quality was so apparent, the cheapquels also degraded the hard-won value of the Disney brand name in animation. The mantle of "best animated studio in America" was taken by Pixar, while Disney's grosses for their new animated films declined lower and lower.

Eisner and the entertainment media seemed all too happy to place the blame on hand-drawn animation, thinking audiences no longer cared for moving drawings in favor of CGI. The truth was the marketplace was glutted with cheap fare, the cheapquels had eroded the value of the Disney brand name, and the hand-drawn features had become stale and formula-driven.

If I were CEO of Disney, I'd see to it that every print and every negative of every cheapquel title was destroyed. So fans of The Return of Jafar, be gald I'm not CEO of Disney.

I pretty much agree with you, but didn't the gazillion Land Before Time sequels from Universal kickstart the cheapquel trend?

EDIT: looks like LBT2 and Return of Jafar came out in the same year...

EricJ · 03-19-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephie_is_a_dork

Aladdin is my favorite animated Disney movie of all times. I wasn't crazy about return of Jafar. Actually, I didn't like it at all. Aladdin and the Prince of Thieves was okay, we got to meet Aladdin's father, Aladdin and Jasmine were finally gonna get married...it was acceptable.

And, we finally found out what happened to that marketplace storyteller, who disappeared five minutes in the original film...

ib18 · 08-26-2008, 10:31 AM

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newguy7 · 08-26-2008, 11:10 AM

It was a bad film when it came out...but then Disney started putting out sequels for every damn classic disney film...suddenly this one wasn't so bad anymore.

03-08-2008, 09:47 PM	#1
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03-08-2008, 09:53 PM	#2
iNCREDiPiNOY Banned Member since:Aug 2007 Location:NoHo, Cali PSN:iNCREDiPiNOY Wii:6379344902430379 Blu-ray collection:143 Trading Score:16	I still remember this movie. I have all 3 series on VHS.

03-08-2008, 10:05 PM	#3
richterbon23 Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007 Home Theater Gallery:7 4K collection:266 Blu-ray collection:685 Trading Score:22	this movie is pretty good. compared to some of the sequels they come out with now... this one is very good. much better than the third, i would suggest a watch if you havent seen it

03-08-2008, 10:09 PM	#4
DutchBoy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Location:R. Cucamonga, CA Blu Ray Steelbooks™: 22 Home Theater Gallery:31 Blu-ray collection:101 Trading Score:12	I thought it was pretty good, although sans Robin Williams if I remember correctly.

03-08-2008, 10:14 PM	#5
ManUtd Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:In my HT Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:829 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:5	I think I still have that on DVD.

03-08-2008, 10:19 PM	#6
red_5ive Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:The 'state' of Southern California Home Theater Gallery:18 4K collection:364 Blu-ray collection:996 DVD collection:4 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:1	I had it on laser disc. It was decent, but Genie just isn't the same without Robin Williams.

03-08-2008, 10:20 PM	#7
mkelley Active Member Member since:Dec 2007	If I remember right Dan Castelano (sp?) the voice of Homer Simpson does the genie in that one. It's okay as far as direct-to-video stuff goes -- as someone here said, better than the third, not even within 100 miles of the first. As with all DTV Disney animation, it's farmed out to the Asian animators who do about 1/3 of the frames the traditional Disney stuff has, so it looks much better on the small screen than the big one (so don't be showing it off on your projection system :>)

03-08-2008, 10:37 PM	#8
Nerdkiller likes BD Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Wrestling in Ireland. PSNetwork: Nerdkiller316PSN Nerds beaten up: Loads 4K collection:75 Blu-ray collection:880 Trading Score:1	You mean there's a 3rd one?!?!?!

03-09-2008, 11:13 AM	#10
Tai-Pan Member Member since:Jan 2008	Yeah, the third one is called The King Of Thieves: Robin does the voice of the Genie in this one.

03-09-2008, 06:35 PM	#11
Ernest Rister Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:590 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	The animation in both is pretty bad -- I think one of the worst things that ever happened to the Disney studios was the success of Return of Jafar. It was essentially the three-part "pilot" of the animated Aladdin syndicated TV series, following in the footsteps of DuckTails and Tale Spin (which also aired with a three-part "pilot" for network broadcast as a "movie"). So Disney decided to try and do a direct to video instead of a network broadcast, and the title sold like hotcakes. Disney immediately began producing more of these cheaply made direct to video titles (later branded "cheapquels" by the animation community), and their effect on the marketplace was devastating. These cheapquels created a glut in the animation marketplace, removing the "event" status of a Disney animated title. The lack of quality was so apparent, the cheapquels also degraded the hard-won value of the Disney brand name in animation. The mantle of "best animated studio in America" was taken by Pixar, while Disney's grosses for their new animated films declined lower and lower. Eisner and the entertainment media seemed all too happy to place the blame on hand-drawn animation, thinking audiences no longer cared for moving drawings in favor of CGI. The truth was the marketplace was glutted with cheap fare, the cheapquels had eroded the value of the Disney brand name, and the hand-drawn features had become stale and formula-driven. If I were CEO of Disney, I'd see to it that every print and every negative of every cheapquel title was destroyed. So fans of The Return of Jafar, be gald I'm not CEO of Disney.

03-09-2008, 06:40 PM	#12
guitarist155 Special Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2008 Location:nashville Home Theater Gallery:45 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:134 DVD collection:3 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	yep i own one and 2 on vhs

03-09-2008, 09:05 PM	#13
Sylin Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Nashville Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:159	RoJ was Disney's most successful direct-to-video release, and isn't all that bad, IMHO. I'd pick it up on Blu... would be nice if Disney bundled all 3 together, tho.

03-09-2008, 09:52 PM	#14
Stephie_is_a_dork Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Location:So Cal Trading Score:2	Aladdin is my favorite animated Disney movie of all times. I wasn't crazy about return of Jafar. Actually, I didn't like it at all. Aladdin and the Prince of Thieves was okay, we got to meet Aladdin's father, Aladdin and Jasmine were finally gonna get married...it was acceptable.

03-18-2008, 06:44 PM	#16
simsim2509 Junior Member Member since:Mar 2008	That was a great movie, i was less impressed by the 3rd, although you can never beat the first movie. I hear that Aladdin is coming to blu-ray some time although no news of late or even a release date.

08-26-2008, 10:31 AM	#19
ib18 New Member Member since:Aug 2008	תודה

08-26-2008, 11:10 AM	#20
newguy7 Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:116	It was a bad film when it came out...but then Disney started putting out sequels for every damn classic disney film...suddenly this one wasn't so bad anymore.

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