quick question regarding blu ray players - Blu-ray Forum

djdon · 10-05-2008, 09:52 PM

hey guys i jus have a quick question.. is there a big difference in the ps3 blu ray compare to the Sperate Blue ray playeers people buy?? like does the seperate one have better quality or somthing more that ps3 blu ray dont' have? because i see that they are around 250$ so how come people dont pay few bucks extra and get a ps3?? thank you

arush5268d · 10-05-2008, 10:04 PM

This is a very heated topic.

Please read through the countless other threads about this exact issue. There are some people here that swear by the PS3, and then theres people here that swear by a few models of standalone players.

djdon · 10-05-2008, 10:17 PM

i do appolagize for makin a post again about this.. but i searched on the forum.. but i didnt really get anything sorry

plowmanjoe · 10-05-2008, 10:24 PM

the ps3's main draw back is it can't bitstream hd audio for your reciever to decode. the ps3 decodes the hd audio formats internally. another draw back is some people can't handle having a device that can play videogames. they're just too good to have a videogame console as their blu-ray player. 3rd draw back, you have to use the ps3 controller or buy the ps3 bluetooth remote. so if you have a universal remote you have to get a usb thingy to control the ps3.

so if you can handle these draw backs than i would go for the ps3 if you can afford it. the absolute best bang for the buck blu-ray player.

Blu-Ron · 10-05-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by djdon

i do appolagize for makin a post again about this.. but i searched on the forum.. but i didnt really get anything sorry

There's nothing to apologize for. You'll get swamped by lots crazy posts telling you what to do. My recommendation to you is to keep asking till you are satisfied with a response. There should be a mature person to help you at some point.

JasonR · 10-05-2008, 10:38 PM

Bitstreaming, analog outputs, infared control, fan noise, and form factor.

djdon · 10-05-2008, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu-Ron

There's nothing to apologize for. You'll get swamped by lots crazy posts telling you what to do. My recommendation to you is to keep asking till you are satisfied with a response. There should be a mature person to help you at some point.

thank you, that made me feel better but i really did search but nothing came up.. but thankx again

arush5268d · 10-05-2008, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonR

Bitstreaming, analog outputs, infared control, fan noise, and form factor.

To name a few....

ozzman · 10-05-2008, 11:12 PM

You know i have a Samsung bd-p1400 and iam very happy,Never had a problem with it and i love the PQ with my Samsung 50" Plasma

JasonR you make a good point,But you know thats fighting words with PS3 owners LOL.

That's all iam going to say and now its time to sit back and see where this thread goes

Personally i would take my samsung over a video game,Don't hate me ,thats my opinion

BIslander · 10-05-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by djdon

thank you, that made me feel better but i really did search but nothing came up.. but thankx again

What features/capabilities do you need in a player? The PS3 may be a fine player. But, if your AVR lacks HDMI, the PS3 won't give you lossless audio. People can be of more assistance if you provide some information about your player requirements.

My_Two_Cents · 10-05-2008, 11:23 PM

The PS3 is an excellent, future-proof player with onboard decoding of the HD audio codecs and excellent PQ. However, as listed above, there are some drawbacks. I use one, but am starting to get annoyed by the fan noise, which I never heard up till about a month or two ago. Once really good stand-alone players with internet capability and ability to bitstream HD audio (I want to see the audio on my 705!) break the $300 mark, I will probably upgrade and move my PS3 to the Family Room. Hopefully, this will be before the end of the year.

djdon · 10-05-2008, 11:25 PM

oh ok i dotn really care about the other flaws but one thing i do want to understand a bit more is the bitstream.. if i use the optical and connected to my receiver won't the receiver decode it?? for the surround sounD?

arush5268d · 10-05-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricshoe

The PS3 is an excellent, future-proof player with onboard decoding of the HD audio codecs and excellent PQ. However, as listed above, there are some drawbacks. I use one, but am starting to get annoyed by the fan noise, which I never heard up till about a month or two ago. Once really good stand-alone players with internet capability and ability to bitstream HD audio (I want to see the audio on my 705!) break the $300 mark, I will probably upgrade and move my PS3 to the Family Room. Hopefully, this will be before the end of the year.

My Panasonic BD30 sure does bitstream those mighty HD codecs

- And you can pick them up for $299.99

arush5268d · 10-05-2008, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djdon

oh ok i dotn really care about the other flaws but one thing i do want to understand a bit more is the bitstream.. if i use the optical and connected to my receiver won't the receiver decode it?? for the surround sounD?

Optical can only deliver 2.0 with PCM. You can't bitstream DTS-HD Master and DD True HD via optical.

With the PS3, if you want HD audio, you better have a receiver than can receive HDMI audio.

My_Two_Cents · 10-05-2008, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arush5268d

My Panasonic BD30 sure does bitstream those mighty HD codecs

- And you can pick them up for $299.99

Yep, on my list. Since this is not a "must buy" at the time, I'm holding-off till Black Friday to see what deals can be had. Discretionary funds are a bit low these days.

djdon · 10-05-2008, 11:36 PM

oh damn i have a yamaha 6130 and it has hdmi but for video only.. damn so the surround sound that i get now via the optical cable is not really the true surround that i am supose to get?

JasonR · 10-05-2008, 11:38 PM

No, you will only get Dolby Digital and DTS. No Dolby TrueHD, PCM higher than 2.0, or DTS HDMA.

ozzman · 10-05-2008, 11:48 PM

You can find a blu-ray that uses analog out and decodes the new codecs in the blu ray and connect it that way and to get the new sounds.

There's a couple of blu-rays that does that.The 1400 does

go to the reciever forum,look for the sticky called"Have an old school reciever(non-hdmi)and want loss-less audio.I know your recievers isn't old but i think this is what you need to know.

Good luck,There is a way

djdon · 10-05-2008, 11:56 PM

so say i do upgrade my receiver that suuports the hdmi and cable of tru hd which mine now does not support.. Will i see a big difference? can soemone help me out on this from experience.. where they had only DTS and Dolby Digital and after they upgraded it.. did they See a big difference??

My_Two_Cents · 10-06-2008, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djdon

so say i do upgrade my receiver that suuports the hdmi and cable of tru hd which mine now does not support.. Will i see a big difference? can soemone help me out on this from experience.. where they had only DTS and Dolby Digital and after they upgraded it.. did they See a big difference??

You won't "see" any difference, but you will hear a BIG difference between lossy and HD audio!

10-05-2008, 09:52 PM	#1
djdon Member Member since:Sep 2008	quick question regarding blu ray players hey guys i jus have a quick question.. is there a big difference in the ps3 blu ray compare to the Sperate Blue ray playeers people buy?? like does the seperate one have better quality or somthing more that ps3 blu ray dont' have? because i see that they are around 250$ so how come people dont pay few bucks extra and get a ps3?? thank you

10-05-2008, 10:38 PM	#6
JasonR Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:12	Bitstreaming, analog outputs, infared control, fan noise, and form factor. Last edited by JasonR; 10-05-2008 at 10:42 PM.

10-05-2008, 11:38 PM	#17
JasonR Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:12	No, you will only get Dolby Digital and DTS. No Dolby TrueHD, PCM higher than 2.0, or DTS HDMA. Last edited by JasonR; 10-05-2008 at 11:40 PM.

10-05-2008, 11:48 PM	#18
ozzman Power Member Member since:May 2008 Location:St. Catharines ONT Home Theater Gallery:37	You can find a blu-ray that uses analog out and decodes the new codecs in the blu ray and connect it that way and to get the new sounds. There's a couple of blu-rays that does that.The 1400 does go to the reciever forum,look for the sticky called"Have an old school reciever(non-hdmi)and want loss-less audio.I know your recievers isn't old but i think this is what you need to know. Good luck,There is a way Last edited by ozzman; 10-05-2008 at 11:56 PM.

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10-05-2008, 10:04 PM	#2
arush5268d Banned Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:85	This is a very heated topic. Please read through the countless other threads about this exact issue. There are some people here that swear by the PS3, and then theres people here that swear by a few models of standalone players.

10-05-2008, 10:17 PM	#3
djdon Member Member since:Sep 2008	i do appolagize for makin a post again about this.. but i searched on the forum.. but i didnt really get anything sorry

10-05-2008, 10:24 PM	#4
plowmanjoe Senior Member Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:6 Trading Score:2	the ps3's main draw back is it can't bitstream hd audio for your reciever to decode. the ps3 decodes the hd audio formats internally. another draw back is some people can't handle having a device that can play videogames. they're just too good to have a videogame console as their blu-ray player. 3rd draw back, you have to use the ps3 controller or buy the ps3 bluetooth remote. so if you have a universal remote you have to get a usb thingy to control the ps3. so if you can handle these draw backs than i would go for the ps3 if you can afford it. the absolute best bang for the buck blu-ray player.

10-05-2008, 11:12 PM	#9
ozzman Power Member Member since:May 2008 Location:St. Catharines ONT Home Theater Gallery:37	You know i have a Samsung bd-p1400 and iam very happy,Never had a problem with it and i love the PQ with my Samsung 50" Plasma JasonR you make a good point,But you know thats fighting words with PS3 owners LOL. That's all iam going to say and now its time to sit back and see where this thread goes Personally i would take my samsung over a video game,Don't hate me ,thats my opinion

10-05-2008, 11:23 PM	#11
My_Two_Cents Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Wherever I may roam.... Home Theater Gallery:40 4K collection:35 Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:19 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:4	The PS3 is an excellent, future-proof player with onboard decoding of the HD audio codecs and excellent PQ. However, as listed above, there are some drawbacks. I use one, but am starting to get annoyed by the fan noise, which I never heard up till about a month or two ago. Once really good stand-alone players with internet capability and ability to bitstream HD audio (I want to see the audio on my 705!) break the $300 mark, I will probably upgrade and move my PS3 to the Family Room. Hopefully, this will be before the end of the year.

10-05-2008, 11:25 PM	#12
djdon Member Member since:Sep 2008	oh ok i dotn really care about the other flaws but one thing i do want to understand a bit more is the bitstream.. if i use the optical and connected to my receiver won't the receiver decode it?? for the surround sounD?

10-05-2008, 11:36 PM	#16
djdon Member Member since:Sep 2008	oh damn i have a yamaha 6130 and it has hdmi but for video only.. damn so the surround sound that i get now via the optical cable is not really the true surround that i am supose to get?

10-05-2008, 11:56 PM	#19
djdon Member Member since:Sep 2008	so say i do upgrade my receiver that suuports the hdmi and cable of tru hd which mine now does not support.. Will i see a big difference? can soemone help me out on this from experience.. where they had only DTS and Dolby Digital and after they upgraded it.. did they See a big difference??

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