Newb question

[acritzer]

Hello all. Thinking about getting into blue ray and need a bit of clarification. The issue is, my TV is from the early days of HD, and is a large console projection mitsubishi, offering only 1080i. Doesn't even do 720p.

Now, through HD signals off the cable box it looks great...but would a Blue
Ray player be worth it with out the 1080p?

Also, my set only has DVI, so I'd need a cable to go from HDMI to DVI...then do the digital sound through a optical cable.

Main question: Will the Blue Ray player send 1080i? And, will it be worth it. Thanks!

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by acritzer

Hello all. Thinking about getting into blue ray and need a bit of clarification. The issue is, my TV is from the early days of HD, and is a large console projection mitsubishi, offering only 1080i. Doesn't even do 720p.

Now, through HD signals off the cable box it looks great...but would a Blue
Ray player be worth it with out the 1080p?

Also, my set only has DVI, so I'd need a cable to go from HDMI to DVI...then do the digital sound through a optical cable.

Main question: Will the Blue Ray player send 1080i? And, will it be worth it. Thanks!

Yes and yes to your question. Go get one...

[acritzer]

Is that a Blue Ray lover kind of answer, or a legit answer?

[andyman1970]

Yes the Blu-ray player will do 1080i and yes it will be worth it. Unfortunately you won't be able to get the HD audio with an optical cable. It will just be the core Dolby or DTS audio but will still sound better then a DVD. Unless you have an A/V receiver that has HDMI inputs and outputs. Then you can run an HDMI from the player to the A/V receiver then run the HDMI to DVI cable from the recevier to the TV and let the Blu-ray player do the audio decoding as most newer model have internal decoders for the HD audio formats.

[Pelican170]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Yes the Blu-ray player will do 1080i and yes it will be worth it. Unfortunately you won't be able to get the HD audio with an optical cable. It will just be the core Dolby or DTS audio but will still sound better then a DVD. Unless you have an A/V receiver that has HDMI inputs and outputs. Then you can run an HDMI from the player to the A/V receiver then run the HDMI to DVI cable from the recevier to the TV and let the Blu-ray player do the audio decoding as most newer model have internal decoders for the HD audio formats.

Why would it sound better than dvd if its playing same files as what would be on a dvd?

[narsibvl]

Originally Posted by acritzer

Hello all. Thinking about getting into blue ray and need a bit of clarification. The issue is, my TV is from the early days of HD, and is a large console projection mitsubishi, offering only 1080i. Doesn't even do 720p.

Now, through HD signals off the cable box it looks great...but would a Blue
Ray player be worth it with out the 1080p?

Also, my set only has DVI, so I'd need a cable to go from HDMI to DVI...then do the digital sound through a optical cable.

Main question: Will the Blue Ray player send 1080i? And, will it be worth it. Thanks!

I am in the same boat as u are...

Have a 1080i samsung DLP, and a STRDE835 sony receiver, no hdmi and no hd audio codecs. So what did I do ?

bought a sony bdp550 blue ray player(not received it yet). hoping to connect the analog output to get the audio codes and get a hdmi to dvi cable for my 1080i viewing.

Go ahead....from all the reasearch I have done in the last three months, everything says it will be worth it, or.....

wait for a few more weeks and I can give you actual experience

[gearyt]

yep... then it will be just like mine

[acritzer]

Sounds good. My receiver doesn't have HDMI, but does have digital optical input, and does Dolby Digital, and DTS.

Now the only problem...convincing my wife that it's an OK idea.

Oh, and the one I'm looking at is the Panasonic DMP-BD35K

[narsibvl]

Originally Posted by acritzer

Sounds good. My receiver doesn't have HDMI, but does have digital optical input, and does Dolby Digital, and DTS.

Now the only problem...convincing my wife that it's an OK idea.

Oh, and the one I'm looking at is the Panasonic DMP-BD35K

optical is not enuf for the hd audio. Need to go through hdmi or analog.

About convincing your wife..well...good luck with that...i was a bit lucky this time around

Panny BD35K doesnt have analog out so you wont get hd audio. Look at either db55 or sony bdp550.

[acritzer]

Originally Posted by narsibvl

optical is not enuf for the hd audio. Need to go through hdmi or analog.

About convincing your wife..well...good luck with that...i was a bit lucky this time around

Panny BD35K doesnt have analog out so you wont get hd audio. Look at either db55 or sony bdp550.

I figured I wouldn't get HD audio. My receiver doesn't support it. A slightly older Onkyo, best it does is Dolby Digital EX, or DTS. Any other options for the receiver I have?

Kind of thought I'd just go with it's capabilities for now and upgrade down the road.

[Marcusarilius]

I'm asuming you are using a DVD player and have no HD disk player. Correct? If so, you are not getting the full 1080i capability that your monitor is capable of.

Purchase a BR player and you will receive upscaled DVDs and full 1080i PQ with BR disks which is the max resolution of your TV. I have a 70" 1080p TV and have the T-3 BR disk which was mistakenly developed in 1080i resolution. The PQ difference is extremely subtle even on a 70" TV. Almost neglegable.

The smaller your TV, the less you will even notice the difference between 1080i and 1080p. Buy a BR player and Have Fun!

[Petra_Kalbrain]

You will benefit from the video upgrade, but your audio will not see an improvement until you upgrade to some equipment that will properly handle HDMI signals.

By the way... for future reference... it's "BLU-RAY" not "BLUE RAY." And, whatever you do, never refer to it as "BLU-RAY DVD!"

[acritzer]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

You will benefit from the video upgrade, but your audio will not see an improvement until you upgrade to some equipment that will properly handle HDMI signals.

By the way... for future reference... it's "BLU-RAY" not "BLUE RAY." And, whatever you do, never refer to it as "BLU-RAY DVD!"

Good call on the "Blu-Ray" Don't want to run around the net looking like a complete dolt.
So, the new player won't even send a better DD transfer? Somehow cleaner than a standard progressive scan DVD player?

[acritzer]

New add-on question.

What kind of a difference is there between Dolby Digital EX, DTS and Dolby HD?

[ShyBoy]

I would certainty not wait and make the plunge. I was in a similar situation and purchase a DMP-BD55. My older DLP set only suppots 1080i but I can see the quality of the video between the Bluray and standard DVDs. Much better quality. I also use the annlog connections to my old recevier and the audio quality is awesome. Very happy with my current setup and the improved video and audio is well worth the cost of the Blu-ray player. Go for it!!

[acritzer]

Originally Posted by ShyBoy

I would certainty not wait and make the plunge. I was in a similar situation and purchase a DMP-BD55. My older DLP set only suppots 1080i but I can see the quality of the video between the Bluray and standard DVDs. Much better quality. I also use the annlog connections to my old recevier and the audio quality is awesome. Very happy with my current setup and the improved video and audio is well worth the cost of the Blu-ray player. Go for it!!

Does your receiver not have optical? I thought that was better than analog? Isn't analog just the red/white cables?

[gearyt]

Originally Posted by acritzer

New add-on question.

What kind of a difference is there between Dolby Digital EX, DTS and Dolby HD?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=41820

[acritzer]

Originally Posted by gearyt

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=41820

How about the short version? Like, Dolby HD sounds WAY better than Dolby Digital and without it you're missing out big time.

Or, it sounds better, but using Dolby Digital won't be terrible.

Or, could you compare the differences like comparing video?

DD=480p?
DHD=1080p?

Or are the differences not as noticeable on the audio side?

[ShyBoy]

Originally Posted by acritzer

Does your receiver not have optical? I thought that was better than analog? Isn't analog just the red/white cables?

When I meant analog, I meant the multichannel analog connections. That will provide lossless audio and should provide better audio than the optical connection.

Please refer to this thread:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=40821

[acritzer]

Originally Posted by ShyBoy

When I meant analog, I meant the multichannel analog connections. That will provide lossless audio and should provide better audio than the optical connection.

Please refer to this thread:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=40821

I see. I thought since you said it was an older receiver it might not have those types of connections. Mine is only a couple(?) years old and I don't think it has anything other than component and optical.

So looking at that link for just a sec, I would want to use my optical cable, but turn on bit streaming? Wouldn't my sound playback still be limited by my receiver's abilities (ie Dolby Digital)?

Starting to get more involved than I thought it would be. Just want to avoid buying another receiver as well, but still get the best sound I can.