onkyo 606 vs 605 - Blu-ray Forum

nickxx4360 · 01-02-2009, 01:41 PM

I want to make a purchase on one of these. My question is are there any major differences between them? I could get a new 605 for $250. the 606 is twice as much.

Thanks

elwaylite · 01-02-2009, 01:43 PM

606 extras over 605:
- 4 HDMI inputs
- An extra component video input
- Video scaler, capable of 720p/1080i output
- Audyssey Dynamics EQ*
- 10W more power all round
- New remote
- HDMI CEC system now compatible with Panasonic's Viera Link, Toshiba's Regza Link and Sharp's Aquos Link, allowing the receiver to give one-button control of suitable TVs from those brands

* Audyssey Dynamics EQ works in conjunction with the Audyssey 2EQ system to adjust the balance of the sound to compensate for changing volume levels, giving a more consistent sound when listening at low volumes.

I liked the 605 I had, just replaced it with the Denon. Audyssey does ok setup on 605, not near as accurate as Denon though.

HOME THEATRE ADDICT! · 01-02-2009, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickxx4360

I want to make a purchase on one of these. My question is are there any major differences between them? I could get a new 605 for $250. the 606 is twice as much.

Thanks

The biggest difference I thought was 2 more HDMI inputs. You can find the 606 cheaper if you search around!

elwaylite · 01-02-2009, 01:55 PM

Prob worth it for the newer Audyssey and hdmi inputs. The Audyssey on the 605 is ok, but not as accurate as it should be.

nickxx4360 · 01-02-2009, 01:56 PM

I might as well wait for the 606 then.

Thanks for the quick reply>

elwaylite · 01-02-2009, 01:57 PM

Its generally better to get the new model in HT gear, not always though.

aramis109 · 01-02-2009, 02:07 PM

Twice as much just to get 2 more HDMI ports? I'd rather just buy a switch if it comes to that for me. The 605 has the same upscaling components the 606 has, as well as the same wattage (where are you getting this info?). Audyssey Dynamics EQ is just a DRC solution, where it's another night-time mode. There's already a solution for that in the 605, plus another one in most players (the PS3 has a DRC solution, for example). If that's really important to you, then definitely wait. However I really think that the 605 remains attractive because of the bang for the buck.

elwaylite · 01-02-2009, 02:36 PM

You're right on the power, heres a better description:

606 vs 605:

+Neural Surround

+Music Optimizer

+Audyssey Dynamic EQ

-No Front Panel Optical or S Video

-1 Less component video

+2 HDMI!

+HDMI 1.3A (as opposed to just 1.3)

-NO COMPONENT VIDEO UPCONVERSION

+1080i upscale

-NO XM

+Remote enhancements (Glossy Black, Simple input/mode selection)

+1 AMP LESS POWER CONSUMPTION

+2 ounces lighter

I think the "no component upconversion" may be wrong though

aramis109 · 01-02-2009, 03:40 PM

No component upconversion is wrong, as is the no s-video on the front. Mine also has Neural Surround modes and XM, though they can only be used on DD, DTS, stereo and mono- not lossless.

In reality, again the big difference is the 2 extra HDMI inputs and Audyssey DRC. Is that worth $150-200? I can't imagine that it would be... at all.

elwaylite · 01-02-2009, 03:42 PM

Id have to agree.

DavidAg02 · 01-02-2009, 04:03 PM

I bought a 605 just a few months before the 606 was released and was upset to find out that they had released a "better" product in the same price range.

Doing some research though made me relax a little... mainly because it's not that much better. The only significant difference is the additional 2 HDMI inputs, other than that it's basically the same receiver.

brett_day · 01-02-2009, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidAg02

I bought a 605 just a few months before the 606 was released and was upset to find out that they had released a "better" product in the same price range.

Doing some research though made me relax a little... mainly because it's not that much better. The only significant difference is the additional 2 HDMI inputs, other than that it's basically the same receiver.

yep, thats what i found out when i bought my 605. the extra hdmi inputs are not worth the additional $150 the 606 would have cost me. I am super happy with my 605, it rocks!

Joe Cain · 01-02-2009, 04:12 PM

I'd like confirmation on this, if any 606 owner can provide:

I've read the 606 can apply DSP modes which matrix 5.1 lossless audio to 7.1 (my 605 cannot). Is that correct? I'm not looking to trade up, necessarily, just curious.

browndk26 · 01-02-2009, 04:17 PM

Does the 605 process audio through HDMI or is it passthrough audio? Do you lose any picture quality by going through the AVR? Can you run audio only throught the HDMI amd still connect a Bluray player direct to the TV for video only?

Joe Cain · 01-02-2009, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by browndk26

Does the 605 process audio through HDMI or is it passthrough audio?

The 605 does process audio through HDMI.

kpkelley · 01-02-2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Cain

I've read the 606 can apply DSP modes which matrix 5.1 lossless audio to 7.1 (my 605 cannot). Is that correct? I'm not looking to trade up, necessarily, just curious.

I didn't see that listed among the specifications on the Onkyo webiste. I believe it is still a 700 series feature.

brett_day · 01-02-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by browndk26

Does the 605 process audio through HDMI or is it passthrough audio? Do you lose any picture quality by going through the AVR? Can you run audio only throught the HDMI amd still connect a Bluray player direct to the TV for video only?

no picture quality is lost when running through the receiver via HDMI. If you are connecting via component the 605 will upconvert to 1080i, it has the faroudja chip

Sound is processed through HDMI so you can get all the lossless codecs.

dzirzow · 01-02-2009, 04:41 PM

I got the 606 with shipping for $350. Awesome unit for $350! I replaced an old THX certified onkyo with the new one and am very happy because of the software and HDMI upgrades made in the last 4 years. The extra inputs are nice: Blu ray source, plus TV source, plus a computer (whether desktop or laptop) to help run a monitor through the bigscreen, life is made simple with the HDMI cables.

nismo604 · 01-02-2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Cain

I'd like confirmation on this, if any 606 owner can provide:

I've read the 606 can apply DSP modes which matrix 5.1 lossless audio to 7.1 (my 605 cannot). Is that correct? I'm not looking to trade up, necessarily, just curious.

my understanding is both the 605 and the 606 can...if you bitstream and let the receiver do the decoding. However if you have say a PS3 which passes lossless as LPCM the 605 can't matrix LPCM but the 606 will be able to.

01-02-2009, 01:41 PM	#1
nickxx4360 Junior Member Member since:Nov 2008 Blu-ray collection:3	onkyo 606 vs 605 I want to make a purchase on one of these. My question is are there any major differences between them? I could get a new 605 for $250. the 606 is twice as much. Thanks

01-02-2009, 04:17 PM	#14
browndk26 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Louisville, KY Blu-ray collection:10	Does the 605 process audio through HDMI or is it passthrough audio? Do you lose any picture quality by going through the AVR? Can you run audio only throught the HDMI amd still connect a Bluray player direct to the TV for video only? Last edited by browndk26; 01-02-2009 at 04:19 PM.

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01-02-2009, 01:43 PM	#2
elwaylite Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2007	606 extras over 605: - 4 HDMI inputs - An extra component video input - Video scaler, capable of 720p/1080i output - Audyssey Dynamics EQ* - 10W more power all round - New remote - HDMI CEC system now compatible with Panasonic's Viera Link, Toshiba's Regza Link and Sharp's Aquos Link, allowing the receiver to give one-button control of suitable TVs from those brands * Audyssey Dynamics EQ works in conjunction with the Audyssey 2EQ system to adjust the balance of the sound to compensate for changing volume levels, giving a more consistent sound when listening at low volumes. I liked the 605 I had, just replaced it with the Denon. Audyssey does ok setup on 605, not near as accurate as Denon though.

01-02-2009, 01:55 PM	#4
elwaylite Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2007	Prob worth it for the newer Audyssey and hdmi inputs. The Audyssey on the 605 is ok, but not as accurate as it should be.

01-02-2009, 01:56 PM	#5
nickxx4360 Junior Member Member since:Nov 2008 Blu-ray collection:3	I might as well wait for the 606 then. Thanks for the quick reply>

01-02-2009, 01:57 PM	#6
elwaylite Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2007	Its generally better to get the new model in HT gear, not always though.

01-02-2009, 02:07 PM	#7
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	Twice as much just to get 2 more HDMI ports? I'd rather just buy a switch if it comes to that for me. The 605 has the same upscaling components the 606 has, as well as the same wattage (where are you getting this info?). Audyssey Dynamics EQ is just a DRC solution, where it's another night-time mode. There's already a solution for that in the 605, plus another one in most players (the PS3 has a DRC solution, for example). If that's really important to you, then definitely wait. However I really think that the 605 remains attractive because of the bang for the buck.

01-02-2009, 02:36 PM	#8
elwaylite Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2007	You're right on the power, heres a better description: 606 vs 605: +Neural Surround +Music Optimizer +Audyssey Dynamic EQ -No Front Panel Optical or S Video -1 Less component video +2 HDMI! +HDMI 1.3A (as opposed to just 1.3) -NO COMPONENT VIDEO UPCONVERSION +1080i upscale -NO XM +Remote enhancements (Glossy Black, Simple input/mode selection) +1 AMP LESS POWER CONSUMPTION +2 ounces lighter I think the "no component upconversion" may be wrong though

01-02-2009, 03:40 PM	#9
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	No component upconversion is wrong, as is the no s-video on the front. Mine also has Neural Surround modes and XM, though they can only be used on DD, DTS, stereo and mono- not lossless. In reality, again the big difference is the 2 extra HDMI inputs and Audyssey DRC. Is that worth $150-200? I can't imagine that it would be... at all.

01-02-2009, 03:42 PM	#10
elwaylite Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2007	Id have to agree.

01-02-2009, 04:03 PM	#11
DavidAg02 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Houston, TX Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray collection:46	I bought a 605 just a few months before the 606 was released and was upset to find out that they had released a "better" product in the same price range. Doing some research though made me relax a little... mainly because it's not that much better. The only significant difference is the additional 2 HDMI inputs, other than that it's basically the same receiver.

01-02-2009, 04:12 PM	#13
Joe Cain Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Tragic City Blu-ray collection:79	I'd like confirmation on this, if any 606 owner can provide: I've read the 606 can apply DSP modes which matrix 5.1 lossless audio to 7.1 (my 605 cannot). Is that correct? I'm not looking to trade up, necessarily, just curious.

01-02-2009, 04:41 PM	#18
dzirzow Junior Member Member since:Dec 2007	I got the 606 with shipping for $350. Awesome unit for $350! I replaced an old THX certified onkyo with the new one and am very happy because of the software and HDMI upgrades made in the last 4 years. The extra inputs are nice: Blu ray source, plus TV source, plus a computer (whether desktop or laptop) to help run a monitor through the bigscreen, life is made simple with the HDMI cables.

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