Speaker Wire Quality - Blu-ray Forum

Cody the Cowboy · 05-26-2009, 08:59 PM

Howdy everyone.
I will soon be getting one of the new Denon receivers along with the Paradigm Cinema CT 110 speaker package. I was just curious of what sort of speaker wires I should be getting. I did noticed some stores had a Monster brand but im worried the wires might be as much as a rip off as their HDMI cables.
The wires will not be travelling very far. It's a pretty average sized room, probably smaller rather than larger. Any thoughts on what I should be looking to get?

(Also, am I the only one who feels paying more than $50 for a pair of speaker stands is brutal? Most of these seem to run 100-300. It anyone knows of any that will support the 110 fronts for very cheap please let me know)

Grevlin · 05-26-2009, 09:04 PM

before you buy anything, check out monoprice.com

I've ordered 12 awg. speaker wire, banana clips, 6' and a 50' hdmi cable from them and I'm 100% satisfied.

DarkDune · 05-26-2009, 09:09 PM

Go to Home Depot and get 12 - 16 AWG wire. Monster is too pricey for running speaker wire.

We use a thicker (i.e. smaller AWG) wire to let more current drive our speakers.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-yL9Vi6T...kers_wire.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cody the Cowboy

Howdy everyone.
I will soon be getting one of the new Denon receivers along with the Paradigm Cinema CT 110 speaker package. I was just curious of what sort of speaker wires I should be getting. I did noticed some stores had a Monster brand but im worried the wires might be as much as a rip off as their HDMI cables.
The wires will not be travelling very far. It's a pretty average sized room, probably smaller rather than larger. Any thoughts on what I should be looking to get?

(Also, am I the only one who feels paying more than $50 for a pair of speaker stands is brutal? Most of these seem to run 100-300. It anyone knows of any that will support the 110 fronts for very cheap please let me know)

CAB · 05-26-2009, 09:14 PM

I use ~15% of my audio budget for "cables". That includes speaker wire and necessary interconnects. Super-upgrading one component or link in the chain will net you very little a performance increase.

What did your A/V supplier recommend?

gearyt · 05-26-2009, 09:14 PM

Any electrical supply.. SPT-2 in 14 gauge = speaker wire

Grevlin · 05-26-2009, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAB

I use ~15% of my audio budget for "cables". That includes speaker wire and necessary interconnects. Super-upgrading one component or link in the chain will net you very little a performance increase.

What did your A/V supplier recommend?

506 Blu's (including ordered) -- wow

Grevlin · 05-26-2009, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkDune

Go to Home Depot and get 12 - 16 AWG wire. Monster is too pricey for running speaker wire.

We use a thicker (i.e. smaller AWG) wire to let more current drive our speakers.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-yL9Vi6T...kers_wire.html

I could use 16awg, but the little stuff just rubs me the wrong way, I like the nice thick 12awg- and I want to use the same cables when I bump up the system to separate amps...

Steve · 05-26-2009, 09:20 PM

For stands check the following sites.

www.racksandstands.com

www.standsandmounts.com

And as everyone already said, go with cheaper speaker wire, about 14 gauge should be fine.

Cody the Cowboy · 05-26-2009, 09:21 PM

If I use the 12 awg from home depo will this give me a lesser quality in audio than if I used to Monster brand?

Grevlin · 05-26-2009, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cody the Cowboy

If I use the 12 awg from home depo will this give me a lesser quality in audio than if I used to Monster brand?

I would say pay close attention to the ends of your wire- how they interface with your system. Wire from the home supply stores should be fine but putting in some banana clips will make install easier (again, I recommend monoprice.com- remember 4 clips per speaker) And needless to say, match up the positives and negatives, or the marked sides of your wire.

Monster Brand wire may give you a slightly better placebo effect

For a higher shelf wire, you could check out bluejeancable.com

vega2K · 05-26-2009, 09:31 PM

I really think you should go for this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Audioquest-K2-72...QQcmdZViewItem

I am a Monoprice 12Awg cable kind a guy myself!

P.S. - does anyone else think $7000 for speaker cables as ludicrous as Bigfoot existing? Actually, comparing these cables to Bigfoot is an insult to Bigfoot!

DarkDune · 05-26-2009, 09:38 PM

Here is an example of what might be good:

http://www.aperionaudio.com/product/...48,39,151.aspx

And here is more of the wiring accessories:

http://www.aperionaudio.com/catalog/...-Wires,39.aspx

BTW: I have never bought from these guys, but it sounds similar to what we bought some time ago. $40 for 100 feet is pretty good IMHO.

Cody the Cowboy · 05-26-2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vega2K

I really think you should go for this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Audioquest-K2-72...QQcmdZViewItem

....barf.
Im leaning towards the 12 awg right now. Although I am pretty newbish and have no idea what that looks like or how much it costs.. just going by what I have read on this site.

Also, whats all this banana plug buisness? Man, setting this system up is gonna take me seven and a half years.

Grevlin · 05-26-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vega2K

I really think you should go for this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Audioquest-K2-72...QQcmdZViewItem

I am a Monoprice 12Awg cable kind a guy myself!

P.S. - does anyone else think $7000 for speaker cables as ludicrous as Bigfoot existing? Actually, comparing these cables to Bigfoot is an insult to Bigfoot!

Its used! and I can't find the length... maybe it just magically stretches to your desired length- and makes you tell the truth.

CAB · 05-26-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grevlin

506 Blu's (including ordered) -- wow

Yeah, those don't include combo packs like Star Trek (x6), Dirty Harry (x5), Matrix (x3), Bond, Batman, etc.

I'd check with your speaker manufacturer or the authorized reseller and see what they recommend for quality. I'm a snob and a bad reference for what the normal consumer should do but I do ask the advice of true professionals.

gearyt · 05-26-2009, 09:48 PM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...71#post1943271

Grevlin · 05-26-2009, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gearyt

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...71#post1943271

vega2K · 05-26-2009, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gearyt

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...71#post1943271

That's what I have!

Big Daddy · 05-26-2009, 10:24 PM

Stay away from Monoprice speaker wires. They are reasonably priced and should be avoided. Instead, you should buy 12ft of MIT Speaker Cables for $27,700.

Grevlin · 05-26-2009, 10:26 PM

Superconducting, and the signal arrives at it's destination before you send it.

05-26-2009, 08:59 PM	#1
Cody the Cowboy Member Member since:Apr 2008	Speaker Wire Quality Howdy everyone. I will soon be getting one of the new Denon receivers along with the Paradigm Cinema CT 110 speaker package. I was just curious of what sort of speaker wires I should be getting. I did noticed some stores had a Monster brand but im worried the wires might be as much as a rip off as their HDMI cables. The wires will not be travelling very far. It's a pretty average sized room, probably smaller rather than larger. Any thoughts on what I should be looking to get? (Also, am I the only one who feels paying more than $50 for a pair of speaker stands is brutal? Most of these seem to run 100-300. It anyone knows of any that will support the 110 fronts for very cheap please let me know)

05-26-2009, 09:04 PM	#2
Grevlin Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2009 Home Theater Gallery:38 Blu-ray collection:82	before you buy anything, check out monoprice.com I've ordered 12 awg. speaker wire, banana clips, 6' and a 50' hdmi cable from them and I'm 100% satisfied. Last edited by Grevlin; 05-26-2009 at 09:07 PM.

05-26-2009, 09:31 PM	#11
vega2K Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2009 Home Theater Gallery:68 Blu-ray collection:345 Trading Score:228	I really think you should go for this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/Audioquest-K2-72...QQcmdZViewItem I am a Monoprice 12Awg cable kind a guy myself! P.S. - does anyone else think $7000 for speaker cables as ludicrous as Bigfoot existing? Actually, comparing these cables to Bigfoot is an insult to Bigfoot! Last edited by vega2K; 05-26-2009 at 09:34 PM.

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05-26-2009, 09:14 PM	#4
CAB Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2007 Location:::1 4K collection:88 Blu-ray collection:1827 Trading Score:4	I use ~15% of my audio budget for "cables". That includes speaker wire and necessary interconnects. Super-upgrading one component or link in the chain will net you very little a performance increase. What did your A/V supplier recommend?

05-26-2009, 09:14 PM	#5
gearyt Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Henderson, NV Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:33	Any electrical supply.. SPT-2 in 14 gauge = speaker wire

05-26-2009, 09:20 PM	#8
Steve Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Anna, TX 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:416 Trading Score:41	For stands check the following sites. www.racksandstands.com www.standsandmounts.com And as everyone already said, go with cheaper speaker wire, about 14 gauge should be fine.

05-26-2009, 09:21 PM	#9
Cody the Cowboy Member Member since:Apr 2008	If I use the 12 awg from home depo will this give me a lesser quality in audio than if I used to Monster brand?

05-26-2009, 09:38 PM	#12
DarkDune Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2008 Home Theater Gallery:164 Blu-ray collection:280 Blu-ray reviews: 7	Here is an example of what might be good: http://www.aperionaudio.com/product/...48,39,151.aspx And here is more of the wiring accessories: http://www.aperionaudio.com/catalog/...-Wires,39.aspx BTW: I have never bought from these guys, but it sounds similar to what we bought some time ago. $40 for 100 feet is pretty good IMHO.

05-26-2009, 09:48 PM	#16
gearyt Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Henderson, NV Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:33	https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...71#post1943271

05-26-2009, 10:24 PM	#19
Big Daddy Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Southern California Home Theater Gallery:79 Blu-ray collection:122 Trading Score:1	Stay away from Monoprice speaker wires. They are reasonably priced and should be avoided. Instead, you should buy 12ft of MIT Speaker Cables for $27,700.

05-26-2009, 10:26 PM	#20
Grevlin Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2009 Home Theater Gallery:38 Blu-ray collection:82	Superconducting, and the signal arrives at it's destination before you send it.

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