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Old 05-18-2009, 02:34 PM   #1
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Default Wow... DVD isn't as good as Blu-ray? Who knew?

I had a few friends over yesterday and we watched Terminator on BLU(to prepare for the new movie this week). It sounded awesome and the picture was the best I have ever seen T1 look. It was great.

We got some pizza and then decided we need to watch T2 as well. The problem is I didn't have a T2 on BLU.

We ended up watching it on DVD(as my friend said "what's the diff?").

I expected the DVD to look subpar. It was watchable but it didn't look terrible. The real surprise came in the sound. The PCM Terminator track is just excellent. I ran both the DVD and Blu at the same level on my Denon. It was earth shattering for the BLU(to the point I was worried my neighbours would complain) but on the DVD I had to turn it up another 5 DB just to hear the audio clearly. It might be because I was deaf after the BLU but I don't think so.

My friend is now a believer and will be buying a blu system soon.

Just wanted to share my little story of WHY BLU's are better.

Any similar stories?
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:37 PM   #2
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good thing you didnt watch T2 on blu-ray, from what I hear its horrible

I am watching the Geneon T2 blu-ray now and it looks fabulous, A definite improvement over any DVD i have ever scene.
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:45 PM   #3
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T2 looks just fine on blu-ray.
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:45 PM   #4
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good thing you didnt watch T2 on blu-ray, from what I hear its horrible

I am watching the Geneon T2 blu-ray now and it looks fabulous, A definite improvement over any DVD i have ever scene.
1000 Blus

I, Robot convinced me to buy a Blu Ray player. Amazing PQ.
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:53 PM   #5
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T2 looks okay on the current Lionsgate Blu-ray, there is definitely some improvment but nothing spectacular. T2 has always had that issue because of the cameras James Cameron used to film the film.

Here's hoping that the new version of T2 is even better for PQ. (I know the audio will be killer )
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:56 PM   #6
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I have turn 7 people and counting into going blu I usually show transformers but sometime i mix up some planet earth!!!
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Old 05-18-2009, 03:00 PM   #7
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One thing that really sold me was several months ago when I caught Underworld coming on a regular HD channel. I don't remember what channel exactly, but it wasn't HBO or Cinemax or anything. It was a channel where language, nudity and gore would be edited out. I decided to put in the DVD because I didn't want to see it edited, but the video quality of the DVD wasn't even close to the video quality of the HD channel. Considering that blus look even better than HD channels on TV, that was the major turning point for me.
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Old 05-18-2009, 03:31 PM   #8
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the major turning point in getting a blu-ray system was after a while going to blockbuster all the time and seeing the hd tv w/the blu-ray system they have on display with a movie, it made me feel like I was 100 yrs behind. LOL. Blu-ray is like Sunpass, its takin over.
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Old 05-18-2009, 03:35 PM   #9
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I knew I was going to be into Blu-ray before I'd ever seen anything because I knew 100% I was getting a PS3 as soon as I knew about it. Now the first Blu I got was Casino Royale (which I bought before having anything to play it on) and I was all excited when I put the disc into the machine. What I was greeted with was a very grainy, black and white picture (bare in mind I had never seen the film at this point). My initial thought was that there was something wrong with the PS3 and I felt crushed, because this couldn't be how the film was supposed to look. Then the titles kicked in and WOW, I had never seen anything so bright, clear and perfect on my TV before. Bought many Blu since then
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Old 05-18-2009, 03:37 PM   #10
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DVD is just trash really, too bad most people can't see that or don't care or can't afford to upgrade. This recession really is the main reason more people haven't made the switch yet, hope it ends soon.
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Old 05-18-2009, 03:57 PM   #11
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Honestly I don't think the recession is what is killing it. If anything I think it's actually helping it. More and more people are lookin for somthing in the home intertainment deal anymore. So being this is a new thing people are always looking for the next thing. I seriously think the recession we are currently going through (we will get out I have faith in OBAMA) has done nothing but help it. Granted it owuld prolly be better if we eren't in this slump. But I don't think it's been hurting it.

Now back to topic. I remember when I first got Transformers on Blu, and I am Legend. I noticed a HUGE difference between them and DVD. Mainly the sound, it felt and sounded much more lively. I remember my mom's jaw just dropping when she watched it with me. She just couldn't believe her eye's. She said she felt like she could acutally reach out and grab the leaves it looked so amazing.
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:23 PM   #12
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The existing Terminator 2 is alright but still shows that early days of BD quality.

However, Skynet Edition comes out tomorrow, and it will be a re-encode using VC-1 on a 50 gig disc, so it should look a lot better.

Edit: VC-1 not AVC. I'm used to Lion's Gate using AVC, but they do have VC-1 on some films. 3:10 looked good using it.

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Old 05-18-2009, 04:31 PM   #13
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The existing Terminator 2 is alright but still shows that early days of BD quality.

However, Skynet Edition comes out tomorrow, and it will be a re-encode using AVC on a 50 gig disc, so it should look a lot better.
Well, if you like DNR and EE, the Skynet edition is the one for you.
and I've read that the region free japanese Geneon Edition is the best version on blu-ray.
I'm going to get that when I can afford it.
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:48 PM   #14
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One thing that really sold me was several months ago when I caught Underworld coming on a regular HD channel. I don't remember what channel exactly, but it wasn't HBO or Cinemax or anything. It was a channel where language, nudity and gore would be edited out. I decided to put in the DVD because I didn't want to see it edited, but the video quality of the DVD wasn't even close to the video quality of the HD channel. Considering that blus look even better than HD channels on TV, that was the major turning point for me.
Yeah, this is the real story.. That DVD doesn't even look as good as TV at this point.. So watching a show you like on HD and then only having the option to buy the season on DVD? No thanks.. I'll only buy Blu.. no matter what it is.
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:50 PM   #15
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So wait....your friend didnt know blu was an updgrade from dvd ?

Maybe its time for some new friends.
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Old 05-18-2009, 04:59 PM   #16
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Going into Costco and seeing the row of big a** HDTVs right when you walk in playing demo discs pretty much wore me down after a year.

I started visiting this particular website and, reading the forums & BD reviews, I caught the "I need a HT" bug. I spent much researching components and asking alot of stupid questions (which, amazingly, forum people actually took the time to answer & help me).

Now when my family wants to go to the movies, we walk into our own personal home theatre.

I am awestruck at the beauty that is Blu. I will say....my wife put on a 10/15 year old DVD (the Sound of Music) after I promised her that our equipment would upscale it and make it look a bit better. It looked awesome and sounded awesome. Not BD awesome, but for an old old DVD we were amazed.

I thank God everyday for allowing me the blessing of living my life in today's technology.
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:21 PM   #17
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Well, if you like DNR and EE, the Skynet edition is the one for you.
and I've read that the region free japanese Geneon Edition is the best version on blu-ray.
I'm going to get that when I can afford it.
so you are willing to pay 3x the amount just for a very slight improvement?
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Old 05-18-2009, 05:47 PM   #18
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so you are willing to pay 3x the amount just for a very slight improvement?
Yes.
It's blu-ray, it just doesn't make sense to see it in a lower quality.
If I'm only going to buy this once in my life, it might as well be the best.
It is after all The Terminator 2! there's not many movies it'd do this with.
If I can pay that many dollars for a high-def TV and a PS3, I can pay extra for an improved copy of The Terminator 2.
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I am watching the Geneon T2 blu-ray now and it looks fabulous, A definite improvement over any DVD i have ever scene.
what is this Geneon T2 you speak of, and how much does it cost?
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:11 PM   #20
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what is this Geneon T2 you speak of, and how much does it cost?
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare/term2.htm
there is an english menu and english subtitles.
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