Dracula - Blu-ray Forum

Quinthoopachiefy · 09-18-2007, 06:42 AM

I read this a little bit ago. I don't know sometimes Bracke let's alot of his own personal views get in the way of his reviews. I sometimes cringe at what horrible things he has to say about some of my favorite movies. I thought they had spent alot of time on this transfer. Regardless I am still buying it.

akbungle · 09-18-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Mack

paidgeek,

Bram Stoker's Dracula just got slammed on Highdefdigest.com.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/252/...rsdracula.html

The PQ got 2 and a 1/2 stars which unfortunately makes it rate in the bottom 12 or so of the hundreds of BD's reviewed yet. I'm sure it can't be THAT bad, maybe just in comparison to expectations. Bracke says surprisingly there are dirt and blemishes on the print, (IIRC, the Superbit DVD had lots of those as well...) Is Bracke just way off..? I remember the film being slightly soft style-wise in many scenes in the theater but this just sounds like they used a several year old master and did virtually no work.

One of my faves and I'm bummed if it really if it's this disappointing.

+1
please any comments about this would be appreciated as I have the superbit version but was looking forward to some excellent sound and at least very good video. As I am no longer "made of money"(stay at home dad) I would like to know if this represents a good enough difference in quality to warrant a purchase. Thanks.

E-Dogg · 09-18-2007, 03:43 PM

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/252/...rsdracula.html

skubrick · 09-18-2007, 03:46 PM

The movie's so damn dark that doesn't surprise me. Like whenever I watch The Fountain, which also has a lot of dark scenes. Those are always the poorest PQ scenes.

zombieking · 09-18-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by skubrick

The movie's so damn dark that doesn't surprise me. Like whenever I watch The Fountain, which also has a lot of dark scenes. Those are always the poorest PQ scenes.

It can be done right. I've raved about the movie The Descent before --one dark film, and it looks excellent.

I'll still be buying this, I love the movie and it'll still be a visual upgrade from the dvd.

Esox50 · 09-18-2007, 05:25 PM

paidgeek said a while ago that the master was a bit soft. Not sure if this is how it was filmed or not. Another person with the disc has said/agreed it was a little soft, but that it was a huge upgrade over the DVD. We have no reason to believe Sony dropped the ball here as all of their releases over the past year or so have been stellar. Maybe this is the best the movie can look? You cannot make something look better than it is originally.

A must buy for me; had it on order for a long time...

Wendell R. Breland · 09-18-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Stevens

From AVS

The xfer showed numerous spots of dirt because so much of the film was combined using an optical printer.

If the final film master is made from several generations (optical printing), then it will lose some resolution. That is one reason some low budget films can look quite good because the print is only one or two generation(s) removed from the film originals. They do not have the budget for all the optical printing.

Go Blue · 09-18-2007, 09:05 PM

When will blu-ray.com review the disc? I am curious if they will find similar issues as hidefdigest.com. I will buy it regardless since I love the movie and sold my Superbit version when the BD release date came out.

kotton247 · 09-19-2007, 05:47 AM

I'll still get it. I don't trust any reviews, except mine.

PeterTHX · 09-19-2007, 05:51 AM

Coppola wanted to emulate the look of early film, using "old school" compositions and effects techniques combined with what was then state of the art.

Again "HDD" is faulting something for looking exactly as it should.

Bracke would fault a restored Mona Lisa for being too "brownish & faded".

Canada · 09-19-2007, 06:09 AM

Definatly a let down this late in Blu's game and a 50 gig to boot should have scored a lot better.

Paradiso · 09-19-2007, 06:24 AM

I've read revies here and there about Dracula...and to some extent I'm taking it with a grain of salt. I mean, just about the PQ and such regarding Goodfellas; I only have 1080i and to me it still a helluva lot better than the previous SD versions. The grain wasn't too terrible and the colors were good. I mean overall, it looked damn fine to me. Maybe I'm crazy, but that's my opinion. I don't consider myself a novice when it comes to home video, so I know what to look for. Ah well, it'll be nice to get Dracula, and the extras sound good. I own the Criterion LD and that had some great bonuses and haven't really watched it in quite a long time, so I'm psyched.

ryanpatrick · 09-19-2007, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kotton247

I'll still get it. I don't trust any reviews, except mine.

i hear you 101%. i never really did like hi-def digest's reviews. i feel they are a bit bias and not always accurate. i'll probably still pick this up when it's released.

gand41f · 09-19-2007, 06:33 AM

I wouldn't worry too much after one review, especially from Bracke who has made several questionable calls in the past.

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Bracke would fault a restored Mona Lisa for being too "brownish & faded".

That's too funny.

enjoy
gandalf

simcal · 09-19-2007, 06:36 AM

Its a all time favorite for me. I will be picking it up regardless. If it was any one but sony or disney I might be concerned that such a review is true.

Bruuce · 09-19-2007, 07:28 PM

Wow. I canceled this pre-order from Amazon but now I wonder if that was the right call. I have questioned PB's comments and scores before but I hate doing what I would call, a blind buy, at least as far as PQ/AQ are concerned. If anyone runs across other reviews please post the links here.

sahoward · 09-19-2007, 07:36 PM

I'm definitely buying it. I don't agree with quite a few of their reviews and I don't have the movie on DVD.

It's sad that people invest that much in the reviews from a single site. He's like the Ebert of hi-def at this point. I wonder how badly sales will be affected from his opinion alone.

CptOzone · 09-19-2007, 07:40 PM

I love this movie! I put it on pre-order with Amazon as soon as I saw it was available for pre-order..

I personally believe some of the reviews done by this guy are tainted by whether or not he likes the movie itself. Doesn't matter anyway - it is destined for my blu-ray collection.

T-Town Oil · 09-19-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CptOzone

I love this movie! I put it on pre-order with Amazon as soon as I saw it was avaI personally believe some of the reviews done by this guy are tainted by whether or not he likes the movie itself. Doesn't matter anyway - it is destined for my blu-ray collection.

agreed, there is noway this movie could have come out that bad. ive got the superbit dvd that i watched the other day and it looked damn good. i can only imagine how good blu will look. this has got to be gary oldmans best flick by far

Go Blue · 09-19-2007, 07:53 PM

For me, this is one of those movies that I will buy regarless of any review. When will blu-ray.com be reviewing it?

09-18-2007, 06:42 AM	#1
Quinthoopachiefy Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Vacaville, Ca Blu-ray collection:513 DVD collection:114 Digital collection:175 Blu-ray reviews:1	Dracula fails to impress highdefdigest I read this a little bit ago. I don't know sometimes Bracke let's alot of his own personal views get in the way of his reviews. I sometimes cringe at what horrible things he has to say about some of my favorite movies. I thought they had spent alot of time on this transfer. Regardless I am still buying it.

09-18-2007, 03:43 PM	#3
E-Dogg Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray collection:159	Dracula fails to impress highdefdigest http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/252/...rsdracula.html

09-19-2007, 07:40 PM	#18
CptOzone Member Member since:Sep 2007	I love this movie! I put it on pre-order with Amazon as soon as I saw it was available for pre-order.. I personally believe some of the reviews done by this guy are tainted by whether or not he likes the movie itself. Doesn't matter anyway - it is destined for my blu-ray collection. Last edited by CptOzone; 09-19-2007 at 07:42 PM. Reason: Dropped characters

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09-18-2007, 03:46 PM	#4
skubrick Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Work at BR Blockbuster store in Lincoln, NE	The movie's so damn dark that doesn't surprise me. Like whenever I watch The Fountain, which also has a lot of dark scenes. Those are always the poorest PQ scenes.

09-18-2007, 05:25 PM	#6
Esox50 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 4K collection:416 Blu-ray collection:488	paidgeek said a while ago that the master was a bit soft. Not sure if this is how it was filmed or not. Another person with the disc has said/agreed it was a little soft, but that it was a huge upgrade over the DVD. We have no reason to believe Sony dropped the ball here as all of their releases over the past year or so have been stellar. Maybe this is the best the movie can look? You cannot make something look better than it is originally. A must buy for me; had it on order for a long time...

09-18-2007, 09:05 PM	#8
Go Blue Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:160 Trading Score:7	When will blu-ray.com review the disc? I am curious if they will find similar issues as hidefdigest.com. I will buy it regardless since I love the movie and sold my Superbit version when the BD release date came out.

09-19-2007, 05:47 AM	#9
kotton247 Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:NC Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:25	I'll still get it. I don't trust any reviews, except mine.

09-19-2007, 05:51 AM	#10
PeterTHX Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray collection:563 Trading Score:14	Coppola wanted to emulate the look of early film, using "old school" compositions and effects techniques combined with what was then state of the art. Again "HDD" is faulting something for looking exactly as it should. Bracke would fault a restored Mona Lisa for being too "brownish & faded".

09-19-2007, 06:09 AM	#11
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1201 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	Definatly a let down this late in Blu's game and a 50 gig to boot should have scored a lot better.

09-19-2007, 06:24 AM	#12
Paradiso Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Blu-ray collection:45	I've read revies here and there about Dracula...and to some extent I'm taking it with a grain of salt. I mean, just about the PQ and such regarding Goodfellas; I only have 1080i and to me it still a helluva lot better than the previous SD versions. The grain wasn't too terrible and the colors were good. I mean overall, it looked damn fine to me. Maybe I'm crazy, but that's my opinion. I don't consider myself a novice when it comes to home video, so I know what to look for. Ah well, it'll be nice to get Dracula, and the extras sound good. I own the Criterion LD and that had some great bonuses and haven't really watched it in quite a long time, so I'm psyched.

09-19-2007, 06:36 AM	#15
simcal Active Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:El Cajon Home Theater Gallery:35 Blu-ray collection:499	Its a all time favorite for me. I will be picking it up regardless. If it was any one but sony or disney I might be concerned that such a review is true.

09-19-2007, 07:28 PM	#16
Bruuce Senior Member Member since:Dec 2006	Wow. I canceled this pre-order from Amazon but now I wonder if that was the right call. I have questioned PB's comments and scores before but I hate doing what I would call, a blind buy, at least as far as PQ/AQ are concerned. If anyone runs across other reviews please post the links here.

09-19-2007, 07:36 PM	#17
sahoward Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:243	I'm definitely buying it. I don't agree with quite a few of their reviews and I don't have the movie on DVD. It's sad that people invest that much in the reviews from a single site. He's like the Ebert of hi-def at this point. I wonder how badly sales will be affected from his opinion alone.

09-19-2007, 07:53 PM	#20
Go Blue Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:23 Blu-ray collection:160 Trading Score:7	For me, this is one of those movies that I will buy regarless of any review. When will blu-ray.com be reviewing it?

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