Top Grossing Studios for 2006

[Ascended_Saiyan]

The Top Grossing Studios 2006

The top 3 are Blu-ray exclusive studios.

1. Buena Vista 17.5%
2. Sony Pictures 17.0%
3. 20th Century Fox 15.0%
4. Universal 10.6%
5. Warner Bros. 10.1%
6. Paramount 9.8%
7. Lionsgate 3.2%
8. New Line 2.4%
9. Fox Searchlight 2.2%
10. Weinstein/Dimension 1.6%

54.9% of 2006 movies are Blu-ray exclusives.

12.2% of 2006 movies are HD-DVD exclusives.

Interesting.

[phloyd]

Now that is relevant data. Over 50% on Bluray exclusive? That is crazy. Post that info at the AVS and you are done

Dimension is part of Disney/Miramax isn't it? Grimm Brothers is a Dimension film...

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Even going back to 2000, it doesn't vary more than 20% or so.

[hmurchison]

The comparison that you've made is poor. It's not important that a studio is exclusive but rather are their movies available. Thus I think you'd be better off comparing how many of the top movies are on Blu-Ray and HD DVD regardless of exclusivity because in the end consumers don't care about exclusive they simply want content.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by hmurchison

The comparison that you've made is poor. It's not important that a studio is exclusive but rather are their movies available. Thus I think you'd be better off comparing how many of the top movies are on Blu-Ray and HD DVD regardless of exclusivity because in the end consumers don't care about exclusive they simply want content.

So you're saying that all the major 2006 movies won't be released in high-def? If so, why do you think that? 4 of the top ten grossing movies of 2006 have release dates for this year. HD-DVD has 2 of those 4 titles I mentioned earlier and that about sums it up for 2006 (50% of the top ten 2006 hits scheduled for release this year will be Blu-ray exclusives). None of those are HD-DVD exclusives.

I stand by the facts.

[AV_Integrated]

I felt the need to post this on AVS just so I could see the FUD hit the fan.

[Jeff®]

Originally Posted by AV_Integrated

I felt the need to post this on AVS just so I could see the FUD hit the fan.

"Now you've DONE IT!"

[hmurchison]

Wow looking at that list pretty much confirms my suspicion. This wasn't a hot year for movies. When gargage like X-Men TLS are top 5 I shudder for the future of Hollywood.

[theknub]

one minute a poor comparison, the next a bad movie year.

i think every year there is the share of bad movies and the share of good. sadly, most of the good movies don't get the press or advertising that is needed. how many movies are now considered classics but bombed in the theaters? personally, most movies do well because of advertising and characters. x-men tls did well because it is x-men and because we had no reason to think otherwise. personally, the movie wasn't bad to me. it was a superb popcorn flick and a lot of fun. as far as the rest of the list, anything else really bad in your opinion?

[hmurchison]

1 PotC DMC- Good movie but it felt like a 2hr trailer.
2. Cars- Good movie from a class act studio in Pixar.
3. X-Man TLS- poor script and direction. Lost momentum of X-Men 2
4. Da Vinci Code- Didn't see it
5. Superman Returns- another bad script. Decent movie but sorta a let down.

[theknub]

1. well companies pay for trailers, can't fault a studio for that raking in cash. has nothing to do though with the quality of the film you complained about.
2. didn't see it, but i'll believe you
3. script was too loose for me. however, was fun and entertaining. agree that wasn't a good film.
4. davinci code wasn't bad, but was impossible to include all of the aspects of the book into the film. however, a good flick
5. i'll disagree here. i thought it was good. the problem is that singer did what he typically does and develops characters (x-men 1 & 2?). i think he know the franchise is going to continue and wants to leave us with a full character understanding. i did leave the theater wanting more however. however, i felt this was a well done movie.

a last comment, i think singer wanted to break a little from what we have come to expect from superman. after all, we all have our expectations and i think he wanted to bring something else to the table... just my thoughts

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by hmurchison

Wow looking at that list pretty much confirms my suspicion. This wasn't a hot year for movies. When gargage like X-Men TLS are top 5 I shudder for the future of Hollywood.

Hollywood will be just fine. They adapt to serve what the majority of the people will pay to see.

I thought this was about Blu-ray having the most hits under exclusive control (not your opinion of the quality of those movies). You may not have liked those movies, but they made a lot of money at the box office. That generally means they will do well in movie rentals and sales. A lot of those people are the ones that will probably have a PS3.

Is there any year within the past 6 years that you thought movies were good? All of those years still adds up to the same...majority Blu-ray exclusives over HD-DVD.

[hmurchison]

No I thought the movies were fine and in some cases the revenue didn't match the quality of the movie.

Every year the studios flip flop the lead depending on which big budget films do well or poor.

You are so focused on exclusivity and ramming your opinion down people's throats you seem blind or at the least loath to admit that things change. If BVHE/Disney ends up supporting HD DVD then how does your point stand?

You guys simply have to realize that pointing out which studios can only be purchased on one platform will weaken with every studios defection to neutrality.

Building your house on a deck of cards is folly.

[zombie]

Originally Posted by hmurchison

You are so focused on exclusivity and ramming your opinion down people's throats you seem blind or at the least loath to admit that things change. If BVHE/Disney ends up supporting HD DVD then how does your point stand?

You guys simply have to realize that pointing out which studios can only be purchased on one platform will weaken with every studios defection to neutrality.

Building your house on a deck of cards is folly.

What you fail to understand is that the comments being made about exclusive studio support are made based on the situation as it stands right now. You are like many HD DVD fanboys who insist that studio support can change is more is coming for HD DVD. I've been hearing this all year long and so far nothing's changed. If you feel like these comments are being rammed down your throat that's on you... they are simply today's facts, not tomorrow's unknowns. But by all mean's continue with your speculation if that's what helps you sleep at night.

[phloyd]

The HD DVD supporters were claiming that all of BD's features were in the form of promises (and that is still true to some extent).

I guess that these days, especially with the issue of studio support, HD DVD's future is relying on 'hopes and dreams'.

And that is ok. HMurch has made his predictions and it will be interesting to see if he is correct or not. This whole thing is a wait and see game.

Though I am looking forward to digging out Amirs 'BD 50GB disc is not possible' posts to quote on the day that BHD is released

[marzetta7]

Originally Posted by phloyd

The HD DVD supporters were claiming that all of BD's features were in the form of promises (and that is still true to some extent).

I guess that these days, especially with the issue of studio support, HD DVD's future is relying on 'hopes and dreams'.

And that is ok. HMurch has made his predictions and it will be interesting to see if he is correct or not. This whole thing is a wait and see game.

Though I am looking forward to digging out Amirs 'BD 50GB disc is not possible' posts to quote on the day that BHD is released

Stick it to em.

Ol Murchie, I believe you've told me the same thing a while back...BD 50s are "a pipe dream" on more than one forum. Care to recant the statement once BD 50s start rolling out this year?

Facts always hurt...but in a good way, they humble us all.

[hmurchison]

Well it appears that regarding exclusivity Lionsgate is a goner. There are more than a few whispers regarding their foray into neutrality. Disney will come over before Xmas 2007. Neither format will have achieved victory by that date so like all things it'll come down to what consumers want.

Studio Support is a weak link and historically it favors HD DVD because they stand to gain the support. They aren't selling badly with %60 studio support so I imagine the positive news regarding picking up more studios will be met quiet positively by the press.

[marzetta7]

Originally Posted by hmurchison

Well it appears that regarding exclusivity Lionsgate is a goner. There are more than a few whispers regarding their foray into neutrality. Disney will come over before Xmas 2007. Neither format will have achieved victory by that date so like all things it'll come down to what consumers want.

Studio Support is a weak link and historically it favors HD DVD because they stand to gain the support. They aren't selling badly with %60 studio support so I imagine the positive news regarding picking up more studios will be met quiet positively by the press.

Really? Well it seems appearances are subjective, because I fail to see any type of incentive for Lionsgate to be a "goner" as you so put it. It must be those clamoring 25,000 individuals with HD DVD players that Lionsgate just can't seem to ignore as the marketshare is just to strong to avoid...and yes I'm being sarcastic.

Same with Disney, I just don't think it's going to happen--them becoming neutral. There will be close to 1 million Blu-ray players in the form of either the PS3 or standalone players from Sony, Panasonic, and Pioneer by the end of this year. Hollywood will make movies where there is more chance of profit, and clearly this is with the Blu-ray format. Studios stand to lose more if they were to go with the pitiful 25,000 unit market share Toshiba has managed to garner in making discs for them, and like any business, studios are in the business of NOT losing money.

[zombie]

I expect LionsGate to become neutral shortly. I highly doubt think Disney will be doing the same though.

[Deciazulado]

I think I'm experiencing some form of forum deja vu

I'll update the list I made in another thread:


Exclusive for the format breakdown:

hmurchison's all time movie titles list: Blu-ray 35%, HD DVD 20%
Shadowself's top 500 grossing films of all time list: Blu-ray 50%, HD DVD 10%
My own last decade's titles list: Blu-ray 65%, HD DVD 8%
Ascended_Saiyan's 2006 titles list: Blu-ray 58%, HD DVD 12%
all show the same general trend


Isn't thinking about the possibility of lets say Buena Vista offering titles in HD DVD to change these numbers as likely as Universal doing the opposite? Except that, even if Buena Vista does, it won't change to 50/50*, but if Universal does, HD DVD exclusives become 0.


*Disney going HD DVD makes Ascended_Saiyan's 2006 exclusive titles be: Blu-ray 44%, HD DVD 12%, Universal going Blu makes it be: Blu-ray 58%, HD DVD 0


And anyway, haven't all the studio so called "movements/changes/deflections" to date yet been towards offering titles on the Blu-ray format too?
this also shows a trend


Maybe inertia could be bypassed...

But in the middle of the Xmas Blu-ray "launch"?