Is Paramount waiting for the end of the 30-day return policy.?

[Xcom_Cheetah]

Hearing people saying that Paramount Blu-Ray disc are getting restocked on the stores and Paramount Title available on some amazon, can this be the case that Paramount is just quiet cuz Toshiba has asked them to delay the announcement till the end of the 30-day return period for x-mas sales... So all the players they have sold on the x-mas periods won't get returned back to them... cuz i m sure that will be a large quantity and already they sold them at loss so they don't want to face more anger from their share holders.

Just guessing, but i think if these incidents r happening then there is a reasonable possibility to find an announcement at the start of next month by Paramount of going neutral atleast...

A little more patience is all what we need.:P

[Beefbowl]

uummm..I don't think so. Returned hd-dvd players should have no effect on Parmount since they only deal with movie titles and not the players itself.

[SlapnutsGT]

I see what he is saying, wait until after the 30-day return so that way your general public won't see Paramount jumping ship and them immediately start taking their players back. Its like doing a favor to Toshiba so after the 30 day period all these people are stuck with their players.

I doubt this is the reason, its too malicious and underhanded of a reason.

[DragonSarc]

nice theory lol but that has no relation with each other players and movies toshiba and paramount

[Icemage]

Paramount didn't have any moral qualms about yanking Blades of Glory off of shelves just days before it was due to release. I sincerely doubt they're waiting because of a soft spot for Toshiba.

I'd be more inclined to say that, if they're planning on making any moves at all, they're waiting for the end of January to pass so all those holiday sales get locked in and they don't end up with unsaleable software.

[patrick99]

Originally Posted by SlapnutsGT

I see what he is saying, wait until after the 30-day return so that way your general public won't see Paramount jumping ship and them immediately start taking their players back. Its like doing a favor to Toshiba so after the 30 day period all these people are stuck with their players.

I doubt this is the reason, its too malicious and underhanded of a reason.

Too malicious and underhanded for the red side? You're joking, right?

[msetten]

I wouldn't be surprised if Paramount will only go back to Blu after May. If they really had an out-clause regarding Warner going Blu, it may be the case that as Warner really goes Blu after May, Paramount cannot return to Blu or even announce that they will go back to Blu-ray until Warner is really Blu-ray only.

[Xcom_Cheetah]

Originally Posted by Beefbowl

uummm..I don't think so. Returned hd-dvd players should have no effect on Parmount since they only deal with movie titles and not the players itself.

I am not saying Paramount has the players or make player.. it is just that they have gotten their part of 150 million from the Toshiba, so to exit the contract the Toshiba might have asked them to wait a month, so that the players are not returned to them and then they will gladly changed their ways and nullify the contract...

and maybe with the return of the Toshiba player Paramount also suffer from return of the free movies for which Toshiba payed them and i m sure that will be some quantity, so they will have to pay back to Toshibia for all those movies... So they will get slightly burned too. btw i m not sure how the free movies payment among different companies is handled... somebody has to bear the expense and i m sure Movie studios doesn't take all the hit for it.

anyway as i said just a wild idea.

[Living Near Shamu]

I don't think they really care about the players. Its not like they would abandon the DUD side like they abandoned us. Its more of a "what can you do for me now" attitude even after they got some crappy money from MS.

[sssick]

I predict I will get Transformers on Blu-ray for my birthday in August. I hope anyway.

[SlapnutsGT]

Originally Posted by patrick99

Too malicious and underhanded for the red side? You're joking, right?

Its these comments that fuel the hate between the two supporters, yeah supporters from both side can be malicious and underhanded, but typically the companies are not.

[Lord_Phan]

Originally Posted by msetten

I wouldn't be surprised if Paramount will only go back to Blu after May. If they really had an out-clause regarding Warner going Blu, it may be the case that as Warner really goes Blu after May, Paramount cannot return to Blu or even announce that they will go back to Blu-ray until Warner is really Blu-ray only.

I agree, that would be my thinking of the legals involved. If Warner is obligated by a contract to keep making HD-DVD till may, then they really havn't left, and if they havn't really left, then how could it trigger Paramount's supposed out-clause. Alot of these rumours don't jive.

Maybe I'll ask in that Insider thread you guys have.

[greekjgg]

Paramount is waiting to announce once they have a calculated game plan.

1. It is too soon after the Warner annoucement, they want to do it on their own terms

2. They are probably assembling a list of titles with dates to make the news worthwhile once they make an annoucement. To just annouce with no details doesn't really benefit them much. They want to make this a huge PR event that will catch more press then Warners news as this is kinda BIGGER in the sense that they were both, left blu and are back to blu where Warner was mostly both.

3. They are probably trying to resolve the exit strategy with Universal. How long do they continue to support both? They don't want to do this longer then Universal and Universal is probably pondering the same decisions. Both being the final two studios, they have somewhat of an obligation to all the Dud customers that adopted their format over the holiday season.

[mystiksuicide]

Originally Posted by greekjgg

Paramount is waiting to announce once they have a calculated game plan.

1. It is too soon after the Warner annoucement, they want to do it on their own terms

2. They are probably assembling a list of titles with dates to make the news worthwhile once they make an annoucement. To just annouce with no details doesn't really benefit them much. They want to make this a huge PR event that will catch more press then Warners news as this is kinda BIGGER in the sense that they were both, left blu and are back to blu where Warner was mostly both.

3. They are probably trying to resolve the exit strategy with Universal. How long do they continue to support both? They don't want to do this longer then Universal and Universal is probably pondering the same decisions. Both being the final two studios, they have somewhat of an obligation to all the Dud customers that adopted their format over the holiday season.

Agreed, the only reason hd dvd players are being sold (liquidated) is because there are still 2 or 3 (dependens if you think Dreamworks anination falls into the major category) major studios developing films for them. Once those studios are gone well lefts face it Toshibas hd dvd players are no more than a good upconvert machine that's over priced. But the day i coming and it's coming fast!!!

[glenn22]

I think it's much less underhanded than that. I think Paramount simply wants time to organize their Blu-ray effort and set their plans to phase out HD-DVD. There may also be some lingering legal issues to sort out. Things like this take a long time in the corporate world. They may be still watching the Nielson number too, in order to have tangible reasons (besides the obvious) to show their shareholders as to why they are going back to Blu-ray.

[Sylin]

My personal belief is that this alleged "out clause" has a timer on it, most likely to protect Toshiba's stock price.

Warner goes Blu, and Toshiba drops 4.7%. If Paramount defected immediately, the stock might drop 15% or more because of continuous bad news. But if 30 or 60 or 90 days goes by, Toshiba's stock has time to rebound from its 4.7% loss before taking yet another, smaller, hit.

There's probably several dozen "what if" scenarios in that corporate contract, with interpretations of each being left up to the lawyers.

[whoelse]

I like your thought. Maybe Toshiba are giving Paramount a pay off for staying . Well the 30 days are up today!

[jw]

Originally Posted by SlapnutsGT

I see what he is saying, wait until after the 30-day return so that way your general public won't see Paramount jumping ship and them immediately start taking their players back. Its like doing a favor to Toshiba so after the 30 day period all these people are stuck with their players.

I doubt this is the reason, its too malicious and underhanded of a reason.

WM has a 90 day return policy

[zipbags]

Originally Posted by greekjgg

Paramount is waiting to announce once they have a calculated game plan.


2. They are probably assembling a list of titles with dates to make the news worthwhile once they make an annoucement. To just annouce with no details doesn't really benefit them much. They want to make this a huge PR event that will catch more press then Warners news as this is kinda BIGGER in the sense that they were both, left blu and are back to blu where Warner was mostly both.

This could only mean one thing.....A blu-ray edition of.....

[DisneyKrayzie]

Originally Posted by msetten

I wouldn't be surprised if Paramount will only go back to Blu after May. If they really had an out-clause regarding Warner going Blu, it may be the case that as Warner really goes Blu after May, Paramount cannot return to Blu or even announce that they will go back to Blu-ray until Warner is really Blu-ray only.

That makes sense to me, Warner has only announced that it is going Blu-Ray exclusive, but they are still releasing HD-DVD until May. So once Warner is official done with HD-DVD, then Paramont could annouce thier intentions to switch to Blu-Ray. They will be well prepaired having several months to get ready for their announcement.