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Old 02-06-2008, 07:18 PM   #1
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Default 7.1 speaker system, need advice

what is the best 7.1 system out there under $1000, or is there one?

im very new to this and would like some help on the topic.

is buying a 7.1 system considered a HTIB? and if so, ive heard people advise against this.. why?

sorry for all the questions in one post, any help would be appreciated
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:23 PM   #2
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'HTIB' includes speakers + a reciver & sometimes a receiver/DVD player combo.

Normaly in a HTIB, they use the cheapest speakers & an OK reciever.

Does the $1k budget include a receiver???? or just speakers??
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:34 PM   #3
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thanks for clarifying HTIB... but i would like to buy the receiver separate from the speakers (as well as a new BD player)

so i ask you, what is a decent price range for good speakers?

btw, i am looking at the onkyo 705 or marantzsr4002 for my receiver
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:38 PM   #4
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thanks for clarifying HTIB... but i would like to buy the receiver separate from the speakers (as well as a new BD player)

so i ask you, what is a decent price range for good speakers?

btw, i am looking at the onkyo 705 or marantzsr4002 for my receiver
doesn't leave much room ($$$)for speakers...

spend money on the 605 or 705
Center Speaker
Front Speakers

then add as money is avail
Sub
Rear and Surround speakers
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:41 PM   #5
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doesn't leave much room ($$$)for speakers...

spend money on the 605 or 705
Center Speaker
Front Speakers

then add as money is avail
Sub
Rear and Surround speakers
+1!
GREAT ADVICE!! if everyone followed this advice, so many more american households would have better sound systems
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:57 PM   #6
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sorry if that was misleading...i meant a 1000 budget on just the speakers

can someone tell me a reasonable price range for good speakers?
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:06 PM   #7
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Min $2k for a 7.1

center: $300-400+
Sub: $300-600+
Fronts: $500-$800+
Backs: $500-800+
surround speakers: $500-800+

Best to get something 'nice' 1 time, that will last 15-20 years, then buying something 'OK' & replacing it in 2 years.

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Old 02-06-2008, 08:13 PM   #8
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and if you don't have that much...which ones should you buy first and which ones last?
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:15 PM   #9
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SVS 7.0 Speaker Set for $799



You need to buy the sub separately but it depends on your room layout .. cheapest powered sub they have is $429 (PB10-NSD)

Goodluck!

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Old 02-06-2008, 08:15 PM   #10
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and if you don't have that much...which ones should you buy first and which ones last?

Center, Fronts & Sub 1st
Then the backs, then the surrounds speakers
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:22 PM   #11
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This is my ideal order of purchase..

- 2 front speakers (mains)
- Sub woofer is next..
- Surround speakers
- then finally center .. (you can always do phantom center with ur mains)

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and if you don't have that much...which ones should you buy first and which ones last?
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:28 PM   #12
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here some good speaker for good prices, No sales tax but there is shipping (cost me $50 shipping each for my subs, 40 pounds & $50 for my e50 48 pounds, 2 years ago)

Good for fronts, backs & surrounds (note $179 is each) 3-Way, Dual 8"

http://www.harmanaudio.com/search_br...DIUM-Z&status=

They still have make my center speaker, the price has drop alot in the 3 years ($148 now)

http://www.harmanaudio.com/search_br...NTER-Z&status=

Real nice center (what I want to upgrade too) - $499

http://www.harmanaudio.com/search_br...er=LC2&status=

Sub -12" $399 300wts with 500wt peek (I got this one but it is wood, it will rattle the house)

http://www.harmanaudio.com/search_br...=SUB12&status=

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Old 02-06-2008, 08:31 PM   #13
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This is my ideal order of purchase..

- 2 front speakers (mains)
- Sub woofer is next..
- Surround speakers
- then finally center .. (you can always do phantom center with ur mains)

About 60% of all sound comes from the center speaker, so if just have fronts, a Sub & No center your Not going to here any dialog, just noise.

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Old 02-06-2008, 08:33 PM   #14
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The hard problem. is that it depends on what sounds good to you
you need, if you can, take a test drive at your local show room
take your own source, that you are familure with, and use for all
I didn't like the phantom center, and spent most of my $$ on that and my sub
speakers will last thru many generations of amps and players.

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685's for fronts @ $650
686's for rears @ $480
HTM62 for the Center @ $425
and set aside $400 for a sub.

If you got floor standers instead of the 685's, you're looking at $1100 instead of $650,

If you were to buy some a little at a time, Get the Fronts and Center, then get rears and sub down the road......

Sorry, these are B&W's, I copied from a post I made to someone else with a similar budget. They're just good speakers....... I think you'd be happy for a LONG time with these. Don't purchase speaker stands from them though, if you're trying to stay within your budget. I'm not sure about the stands they make for this model, but two stands set me back about $400 out the door, but they are GREAT, and if having good stands is important to you, then by all means, get the matching stands.
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:37 PM   #16
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Actually you will .. thats why it's called phantom center using your mains.

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About 60% of all sound comes from the center speaker, so if just have fronts, a Sub & No center your Not going to here any dialog, just noise.
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P.S. I've had a couple of Marantz receivers, and I love the controls, and ease of use.
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:45 PM   #18
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I'm not saying phantom center is the ultimate setup .. all i'm saying is that you can do this while saving for a center channel. I was running 2 paradigm studios for awhile and they are great with this kind of setup .. Just make sure they are properly placed and calibrated.

Ofcourse the ultimate goal is to buy quality speaker set .. and not to rush for a cheap sounding HTIB set.

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The hard problem. is that it depends on what sounds good to you
you need, if you can, take a test drive at your local show room
take your own source, that you are familure with, and use for all
I didn't like the phantom center, and spent most of my $$ on that and my sub
speakers will last thru many generations of amps and players.
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:05 PM   #19
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sorry if that was misleading...i meant a 1000 budget on just the speakers

can someone tell me a reasonable price range for good speakers?
I see that you live in Toronto, so I don't know if you have Best Buy there, but ...
BB runs the $500 Klipsch Quintet III system regularly for $300. When they do, they usually run the 10", $400 sub for $250.

When you are ready to add the 2 rears, Klipsch will sell 2 additional satellites direct.
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