Why does Australia have to wait for good movies. - Blu-ray Forum

wingnut0021 · 04-13-2008, 02:36 PM

If any of you are australian, you have to admit that blu ray support here is shithouse.

I remember reading in the paper that "blu ray adoption is reaching "acceptable" levels". I guess because the PS3 is doing pretty well down here. Australia is a pretty wealthy country and most of its citizens appreitate the revolutions in technology. I also wanna add that some of you may fear a US recession and that it may impact blu ray sales. Australia would be immune to it as most of our financial ties are with china.

Anyway, why the hell are we getting the bums rush! We want the movies, we want the players and we want the games. Dont think that australia wont appreciate these things because they do!

Blu ray has been doing ok in australia during the war, HDDVD never had a precence here at all. But i feel that its gonna go downhill very fast. Australians are stuck, usually we only have 2 choices when it comes to purchasing a movie, that is buy the DVD or wait countless months for a blu ray to turn up. Its a joke! Our month by month release schedule is shit, end of story. Blu ray is going to die in australia if nothing is done. $50 for 1 movie is NOT ACCEPTABLE, thats so expensive it should be a crime.

Its all well and good to say "just import", thing about the ma and pa kind of people that want a blu ray player and like to go down to the shop and buy them? Thats called supporting australian retail!

A good example of what im talking about is the PAL release of Rock Band, its so expensive and late that its basically boycotted, no one i know wants it now. Its just wrong.

/rant

jw · 04-13-2008, 03:39 PM

ebay my friend

Caligula · 04-13-2008, 03:41 PM

maybe shipping is the reason? Distrubtor will have to ship blus from wherever they ship from and australia is far. I hear it will take up to 6 weeks if i mail a letter to australia from america?
Maybe this is why? I dont know, but i feel your fraustration. mate!!

jw · 04-13-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligula

maybe shipping is the reason? Distrubtor will have to ship blus from wherever they ship from and australia is far. I hear it will take up to 6 weeks if i mail a letter to australia from america?
Maybe this is why? I dont know, but i feel your fraustration. mate!!

I notice when shipping to Australia that they always seem to not get their items, while others do

So I would rather NOT mail there

Mobe1969 · 04-13-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jwbbud

I notice when shipping to Australia that they always seem to not get their items, while others do

So I would rather NOT mail there

Yeah? I've been buying online for about ten years now and have only had two parcels I've had to file as missing - and I'm pretty certain they were at the other end. Like one was from Blackstar, and at that stage they'd mail the DVD and an invoice separately. I got neither.

Zyclone · 04-13-2008, 11:23 PM

you don't have to pay $50 for a movie here ezydvd normally charges around $40 or less i got predator from target for around $32 and i picked up a bunch of disney/BV stuff for $35 each.

Marcusarilius · 04-13-2008, 11:25 PM

Down Under Dude... Sometimes you guys get movies way before the U.S. does.

Zyclone · 04-13-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

Down Under Dude... Sometimes you guys get movies way before the U.S. does.

the few we get before you is weighed out by the US's bigger range of titles easily.

Marcusarilius · 04-13-2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zyclone

the few we get before you is weighed out by the US's bigger range of titles easily.

I see. Hey, did you get Beowulf in Aus?

Blu-Style · 04-13-2008, 11:37 PM

I know it suxxx, but either you have to deal with it, or import the stuff.

whether it´s about games or movies...
I did know how to spell "Import" when I was 5...

Zyclone · 04-13-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

I see. Hey, did you get Beowulf in Aus?

we did , and while we get some titles you guys don't the majority if not all of them have been region free while there is still alot of FOX and sony stuff thats only been released in the states and is region locked.

Mermen79 · 04-14-2008, 12:09 AM

Australia is too small of a market for the distrubitors to put priority on. Also, it's so far away from the US and Europe.

Marcusarilius · 04-14-2008, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zyclone

we did , and while we get some titles you guys don't the majority if not all of them have been region free while there is still alot of FOX and sony stuff thats only been released in the states and is region locked.

Sorrry blu bro. That is unfortunant. This has been discussed before. We all wish that all titles would be released world wide simultaneously. Us New adopters have the pleasure as usual.

Just watched Beowulf and ...

Caligula · 04-14-2008, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

Sorrry blu bro. That is unfortunant. This has been discussed before. We all wish that all titles would be released world wide simultaneously. Us New adopters have the pleasure as usual.

Just watched Beowulf and ...

if u wanna sell it, let me know!!

richieb1971 · 04-14-2008, 12:45 AM

The USA is the central hub and the country where they want success the most. In reality the only reason Blu is available in other territories is to keep pace but they don't want your market share as much. You pay twice as much $ because of greed. Everyone knows if you lower the cost more people can get it, if they wanted more of you as customers they would lower the cost.

It would only take one pressing plant to cater for the whole of Australia so there is no reason to ship from USA or anywhere else.

Marcusarilius · 04-14-2008, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Caligula

if u wanna sell it, let me know!!

Never, ever! Great re-watchability factor.

HumanMedia · 04-14-2008, 01:17 AM

The reason for staggered releasing and region coding is purely to maximize profit in each region. Local holiday seasons and events can be capitalized on by screening specific relevant material (eg kids films in school holidays), and the cost of living (relative price of luxury goods) can be milked.

eg Luxury goods in the UK are proportionately higher priced than US goods. So make USA and UK different regions so that the cheaper USA goods are not easily gray marketed by legitimate UK resellers and private importers, and a much higher price can be charged for that geo-economic region.

Also content has to be encoded with differnet region codes and submitted to censorship/classification for that country, and may need to be censored, so that also can delay releases.

Its all about money.

toolman46and2 · 04-14-2008, 01:55 AM

You guys have all the better cars down there, I guess it balances out!

The Lion King · 04-14-2008, 07:02 AM

I'm Australian, and yeah, it kinda sucks. At every single store I've been to, the Blu-ray selection is crap, revolving of mainly mindless action movies that I probably wouldn't watch in a million years. But, it's early days, and they seem to have new BDs in every couple of days.

levic · 04-14-2008, 08:22 AM

Yer 90 percent of my blu rays are from OS.It's very rare that we get day and date releases.Usually a standard dvd is released then the blu ray 1-2 months later.Also the prices range from aus $40 -50 and the older movies $30 upwards.I have "Walk Hard" on its way this week from Amazon and it's not released here till 25th June in Aus and will be $43.00 .Why bother waiting,and it's cheaper

04-13-2008, 02:36 PM	#1
wingnut0021 Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray collection:162 DVD collection:59	Why does Australia have to wait for good movies. If any of you are australian, you have to admit that blu ray support here is shithouse. I remember reading in the paper that "blu ray adoption is reaching "acceptable" levels". I guess because the PS3 is doing pretty well down here. Australia is a pretty wealthy country and most of its citizens appreitate the revolutions in technology. I also wanna add that some of you may fear a US recession and that it may impact blu ray sales. Australia would be immune to it as most of our financial ties are with china. Anyway, why the hell are we getting the bums rush! We want the movies, we want the players and we want the games. Dont think that australia wont appreciate these things because they do! Blu ray has been doing ok in australia during the war, HDDVD never had a precence here at all. But i feel that its gonna go downhill very fast. Australians are stuck, usually we only have 2 choices when it comes to purchasing a movie, that is buy the DVD or wait countless months for a blu ray to turn up. Its a joke! Our month by month release schedule is shit, end of story. Blu ray is going to die in australia if nothing is done. $50 for 1 movie is NOT ACCEPTABLE, thats so expensive it should be a crime. Its all well and good to say "just import", thing about the ma and pa kind of people that want a blu ray player and like to go down to the shop and buy them? Thats called supporting australian retail! A good example of what im talking about is the PAL release of Rock Band, its so expensive and late that its basically boycotted, no one i know wants it now. Its just wrong. /rant

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04-13-2008, 03:39 PM	#2
jw Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:519	ebay my friend

04-13-2008, 03:41 PM	#3
Caligula Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Philadelphia Trading Score:1	maybe shipping is the reason? Distrubtor will have to ship blus from wherever they ship from and australia is far. I hear it will take up to 6 weeks if i mail a letter to australia from america? Maybe this is why? I dont know, but i feel your fraustration. mate!!

04-13-2008, 11:23 PM	#6
Zyclone Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Somewhere over the rainbow Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:304	you don't have to pay $50 for a movie here ezydvd normally charges around $40 or less i got predator from target for around $32 and i picked up a bunch of disney/BV stuff for $35 each.

04-13-2008, 11:25 PM	#7
Marcusarilius Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Seattle, WA. Blu-ray reviews:52 Trading Score:1	Down Under Dude... Sometimes you guys get movies way before the U.S. does.

04-13-2008, 11:37 PM	#10
Blu-Style Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Германия	I know it suxxx, but either you have to deal with it, or import the stuff. whether it´s about games or movies... I did know how to spell "Import" when I was 5...

04-14-2008, 12:09 AM	#12
Mermen79 Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:3	Australia is too small of a market for the distrubitors to put priority on. Also, it's so far away from the US and Europe.

04-14-2008, 12:45 AM	#15
richieb1971 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:706 Trading Score:16	The USA is the central hub and the country where they want success the most. In reality the only reason Blu is available in other territories is to keep pace but they don't want your market share as much. You pay twice as much $ because of greed. Everyone knows if you lower the cost more people can get it, if they wanted more of you as customers they would lower the cost. It would only take one pressing plant to cater for the whole of Australia so there is no reason to ship from USA or anywhere else.

04-14-2008, 01:17 AM	#17
HumanMedia Special Member Member since:Jun 2007	The reason for staggered releasing and region coding is purely to maximize profit in each region. Local holiday seasons and events can be capitalized on by screening specific relevant material (eg kids films in school holidays), and the cost of living (relative price of luxury goods) can be milked. eg Luxury goods in the UK are proportionately higher priced than US goods. So make USA and UK different regions so that the cheaper USA goods are not easily gray marketed by legitimate UK resellers and private importers, and a much higher price can be charged for that geo-economic region. Also content has to be encoded with differnet region codes and submitted to censorship/classification for that country, and may need to be censored, so that also can delay releases. Its all about money.

04-14-2008, 01:55 AM	#18
toolman46and2 Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray collection:46 Trading Score:2	You guys have all the better cars down there, I guess it balances out!

04-14-2008, 07:02 AM	#19
The Lion King Special Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Somewhere you aren't. Blu-ray collection:48 Blu-ray reviews:20	I'm Australian, and yeah, it kinda sucks. At every single store I've been to, the Blu-ray selection is crap, revolving of mainly mindless action movies that I probably wouldn't watch in a million years. But, it's early days, and they seem to have new BDs in every couple of days.

04-14-2008, 08:22 AM	#20
levic Junior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Australia	Yer 90 percent of my blu rays are from OS.It's very rare that we get day and date releases.Usually a standard dvd is released then the blu ray 1-2 months later.Also the prices range from aus $40 -50 and the older movies $30 upwards.I have "Walk Hard" on its way this week from Amazon and it's not released here till 25th June in Aus and will be $43.00 .Why bother waiting,and it's cheaper

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