MSG First Impressions?

[JoeKickass]

I do believe it's released today. I'll be trying to get a copy and post my impressions of it.

Anyone else get it already or plan to pick it up today?

[stockstar1138]

Ill repost this here.

I played for 6 hours last night and Ill give a mini-review.

Its a masterpiece, an absolute masterpiece.

I had to tell myself more than once, that I was not simply watching some amazing Hollywood movie. That this is a videogame, that I was playing, and that this is how Metal Gear Solid comes to an end, in such an amazing way. This game does not feel like Metal Gear Solid to me, it feels like something more.

The story is riviting. Of course, the big stuff won't be revealed until near the end, but Ive already ran across 1 or 2 intresting things, that just keep you begging for more.

[Show spoiler] Roy Campbell and Rosemary are married

[Show spoiler] Liquid claiming that they were not replicas of Big Boss

[Show spoiler] The Patriots aren't human

The characters are very well developed and many of their motives remain very unclear, which just captures you.

[Show spoiler] Drebin is much more of a big figure than I thought he would be

[Show spoiler] I am especially keeping my eye out for Sunny and Drebin

My only complaint is whoever did the voice acting for Sunny is awful, she is annoying and Im taking into account that she is a little girl.

Johnny isn't my favorite, though he is humorous

[Show spoiler] The pooping and farting is stupid

On top of that, the gameplay is without a doubt, the greatest gameplay I have ever experienced.

The weapon leveling system is as brilliant as Niko's cellphone in GTA IV. The amount of customizations you can make to your weapons and how you earn them is awesome and it actually makes sense.

Octocamo is very cool and the amount of "moves" Snake can do, just makes the game feel like you can do anything.

The Solid Eye is a much needed improvement over having to use binocolers or thermal goggles.

The levels are kind of linear, but they are large and there are so many nooks and crannies to find things and try to figure out how to go, it feels very open, its kind of like a 3-d maze in some places.

There are more than 1 install points (sorry if you consider that a spoiler, but I dont). After each install point, the game seems to get tougher, so if you find the first part easy, it is going to get more difficult and stealth will become a bigger part of the game.

Only at one point did I think an enemy should have seen me, but didn't. Other than that, the enemies are very sensitive, you have to be very sneaky, which is a good thing.

The aiming and 3rd to 1st person views are much better than in previous Metal Gear games. Its seemless, accurate and responsive. I always thought the gun combat was second best to the Resistances, Halos, etc. Thats not the case in this game, it is right up there with the best shooters (and this game isn't even a shooter, thats how good it is).

The mechanics are a lot smoother and seemless before.

They have equipped the correct amount of time that you need to be in alert, evasion, and caution mode for the severity of what you have done. It doesn't bog down the game, but keeps you in check from just being able to do something, run, hide, caution is up, and then not be sneaky at all and repeat the process

The graphics are top notch.

Given the scale of the game, the level of detail is incredible.

The framerate is rock solid, however it seemse slower during cutscenes for some reason, don't know if its just me or what. However, it never hiccups.

There is no screen tearing whatsoever.

Vegetation is very well rendered, which is usually a downfall of many games graphically.

The sound is awesome.

Metal Gear Solid has always been one of the best series/games out there, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, takes things beyond a typical Metal Gear Solid. It is the epitome of cinematics, graphics, and gameplay, all mixed into one amazing, perfect, 10/10 game so far. The game is flawless.

Load times could be improved, if you want a negative out of me. But the beauty is well worth the wait.

Now for some spoiler/questions.

[Show spoiler] What the hell was Snake doing saluting Big Boss' grave at the beginning?

[Show spoiler] Drebin's comment about how they were hunting Solid Snake, but he (snake) didn't look like Solid Snake, more like Old Snake and that the B and B having to rid themselves of The Pain, The Fury, and The Sorrow to be at peace, really kind of has me wondering if the main character is really Solid Snake

One last thing, the "flashbacks" don't explain jack crap to anybody who is new to Metal Gear Solid, good luck understanding anything if you have never played or don't know the plot line(s) to MGS. The story is complex, not as bad as MGS 2 though, but it will probably get that way before its all over.

[PS3-Playb3yond]

You mean MGS4 First Impressions.

[Nerdkiller likes BD]

MSG huh? Well I first tried it in a Chinese restaurant and I...wait, you mean MGS4, right?

[JoeKickass]

Wooo, nothing gets past you fellas; I was in fact thinking of the first MSG from 10+ years ago on the PS1. Also that Chinese food thing... I figured the best place to post about an oriental food additive or ten year old PS1 game would be a Blu-ray forum about PS3 games.

I mean... they did just release both today right? So it fits with the whole, '...released today' comment.

[PS3-Playb3yond]

Originally Posted by JoeKickass

Wooo, nothing gets past you fellas; I was in fact thinking of the first MSG from 10+ years ago on the PS1. Also that Chinese food thing... I figured the best place to post about an oriental food additive or ten year old PS1 game would be a Blu-ray forum about PS3 games.

I mean... they did just release both today right? So it fits with the whole, '...released today' comment.

I wasn't being sarcastic...unlike Nerdkiller.

[Nerdkiller likes BD]

Originally Posted by PS3-Playb3yond

I wasn't being sarcastic...unlike Nerdkiller.

C'mon, I was only playing around. I'm not trying to make Joe here look like a fool for his mistake.

[PS3-Playb3yond]

Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

C'mon, I was only playing around. I'm not trying to make Joe here look like a fool for his mistake.

Hey, I'm just saying......

Anyway, I don't have the game yet so I can't give you my impression on the game.

[Xerious]

Originally Posted by JoeKickass

Wooo, nothing gets past you fellas; I was in fact thinking of the first MSG from 10+ years ago on the PS1. Also that Chinese food thing... I figured the best place to post about an oriental food additive or ten year old PS1 game would be a Blu-ray forum about PS3 games.

I mean... they did just release both today right? So it fits with the whole, '...released today' comment.

actually they've been using MSG (monosodium glutamate) for awhile.

MGS, however, is a different story.

[JoeKickass]

Nutters.

[JoeKickass]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

Ill repost this here.

I played for 6 hours last night and Ill give a mini-review.

Its a masterpiece, an absolute masterpiece.

...

One last thing, the "flashbacks" don't explain jack crap to anybody who is new to Metal Gear Solid, good luck understanding anything if you have never played or don't know the plot line(s) to MGS. The story is complex, not as bad as MGS 2 though, but it will probably get that way before its all over.

Muchos gracias! I am definitely getting this game today.

[acme3dmax]

i only played a little last night but the opening part of where you are actually playing for me was pretty amazing just as being sort of thrown into choas and having those bi-peds running around was pretty freaking sweet. i think it really gives you the feeling of being in the middle of it, stuff happening all around you, having to dodge your way through it all.

i like how the codec works now. there is less having to hit SELECT like in the old ones when otacon or others wants to tell you about certain little things and hints about the game, instead you just hear him like snake would. now it's seems like the codec screen is for him telling about the mission objectives and other story points. (it may be different later on, didn't get too far into it)

but so far it looks like no other game out there. since i have been playing the old ones recently i kept having to remind myself "oh yeah you can move the camera" >.>

i especially like the third person view. first person now gives me motion sickness but third person doesn't.

i'm definitly want to play it but i'm torn because i'm in the middle of the 2nd and haven't played the 3rd. i had not played them before so i got the collection and played through the first already.

[Mxr5150]

MSG always makes be burp a lot, especially when I go to China Buffet. After that I am hungry again.

Oh! Woops! MGS...
I am still waiting to play, a few more minutes before I am off work.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by acme3dmax

i only played a little last night but the opening part of where you are actually playing for me was pretty amazing just as being sort of thrown into choas and having those bi-peds running around was pretty freaking sweet. i think it really gives you the feeling of being in the middle of it, stuff happening all around you, having to dodge your way through it all.

i like how the codec works now. there is less having to hit SELECT like in the old ones when otacon or others wants to tell you about certain little things and hints about the game, instead you just hear him like snake would. now it's seems like the codec screen is for him telling about the mission objectives and other story points. (it may be different later on, didn't get too far into it)

but so far it looks like no other game out there. since i have been playing the old ones recently i kept having to remind myself "oh yeah you can move the camera" >.>

i especially like the third person view. first person now gives me motion sickness but third person doesn't.

i'm definitly want to play it but i'm torn because i'm in the middle of the 2nd and haven't played the 3rd. i had not played them before so i got the collection and played through the first already.

if you don't know what happens in 2 and 3 finish them first before playing MGS IV.

You can powerplay through both of them by sunday.

[acme3dmax]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

if you don't know what happens in 2 and 3 finish them first before playing MGS IV.

You can powerplay through both of them by sunday.

lol i'll try to do that. the temptation is too unbearable though after seeing MGS4. ^^ it was hard enough to play MGS1 on a 46" LCD with those advance PS1 graphics. lol

what i might do is continue to play the old ones and maybe just play online in the meantime or just mess around in the beginning areas with snake. i do want to see what that molotov cocktail does that i found when went through it last night. ^^