Onkyo Receiver Comparisons

[Disco_And]

Read the spec here:

605 : http://www.avland.co.uk/onkyo/txsr605/txsr605.htm

805 : http://www.avland.co.uk/onkyo/txsr805/txsr805.htm

[Goofytek]

Originally Posted by Disco_And

+1

Also it up scales to 1080p, has more HDMI inputs and it's THX Ultra2 certified

I dont think the 805 upscales to 1080p, i think max is 720p on the 805, i believe the 875 can upscale to 1080p tho.

Info below is taken from a post from AVSforums;

"Not to muddy the waters too much with the whole "does the 805 pass component 1080i as HDMI 1080i" discussion, but looking at p.6 of the manual it clearly says this about the 805:

• HDMI upconversion of composite video, S-Video,
and component video sources (720p capable)

Whereas for the 875 it says this (same page):

• HDMI upconversion of composite video, S-Video,
and component sources (720p, 1080i, 1080p capable)"

Here is a link of that post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post10721189

Also, im wondering why you didnt include the 705 priced at around $599, which is very close to the 805.

Info from 705 FAQ from AVSForum;

7) Why should I get a 705 over the 605?

General
- THX Select 2 Certification (605 has no THX)
- additional 10 watts per channel
- onboard fans for cooling
- Blue backlighting around the volume knob!!
- Advanced remote control - fully backlit with learning/programming abilities

Audio Processing
- 3 DSPs and more listening modes
- Audyssey MultiEQ vs 2EQ on the 605. MultiEQ is more advanced and supports 8 listening positions rather than 2
- 7 band equaliser vs 5 band
- expanded range of crossover frequencies (70Hz and 90Hz)
- ability to post process 5.1 channel PCM signals (ie from internally decoding BD/HDDVD players) to 6.1 or 7.1 (605 apparently cant do this on 5.1ch PCM)
- accepts DSD format (from SACDs) over multi channel inputs

Inputs/Outputs
- +1 HDMI input
- +1 digital coax audio input
- +1 optical audio output
- 7.1 channel RCA pre-outs
- Phono input
- 12V trigger out
- IR in (for infrared repeater systems)
- RS232 COM port
- zone 2 speaker connections have proper binding posts

8) Why should I get the 705 over the 805?

-More affordable
-Much small compact body size and weight:
705 = Dimensions (W x H x D) 17 1/8" x 6 7/8" x 14 13/16" | Weight 28.4 lbs. (12.9 kg)
805 = Dimensions (W x H x D) 17 1/8" x 7 5/8" x 18 1/16" | Weight 50.9 lbs. (23.1 kg)
-More power efficient (6.2 amps vs 9.5 amps) Normal household circuit breaker is 20 amps. Combined with TV, sub, players, game consoles, lights, etc. Its not a major deterrent as you can relocate devices around the room onto other circuit breaker outlets but its important to stay aware of the power loud. 9.5 amp is also at max volume only.. expect that to be around 80% of that number at normal volume levels.
-Cooler running and doesn't pose a fire risk. (Search official 805 thread for evidence of this; several users have said their 805’s burnt out and caught fire after a few weeks of use. Its not common but the risk exists. These users also had plenty of space around their receiver so it wasn't that those users didn't allow for breathing room. For me, risk of fire was the number one deterrent.)
-The video section of the 805 is basically the same as the 705. You need to step up to the 875/905 to get improvements in video.

Link to post as well, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post12162401

Good luck with whichever one you pick!

[ILLSQUAD2G]

Originally Posted by Disco_And

+1

Also it up scales to 1080p, has more HDMI inputs and it's THX Ultra2 certified

BOTH THE 605 AND 805 (ALSO THE 705) HAVE THE SAME Faroudja DCDi SCALER UPTO 720p.

This is a very large mistake many buyers of the 805 have made. I ended up buying the 875 as it will do 1080p upscaling.

FROM THE USER MANUAL 805/875

805
3 HDMI
inputs, 1 output (Version 1.3a)
• HDMI up-conversion of composite video, S-Video,
and component video sources (720p capable)

875
HDMI up-conversion of composite video, S-Video,
and component sources (720p, 1080i, 1080p capable)

The only major differences going from the 605-805

1. the power output 130 watts RMS for the 805
Power output for the 605 is 90 watts RMS

2 The 605 CANNOT DO FRONT SPEAKER BRIDGING 805 CAN

3 Video scaler in the 605 is the Faroudja DCDi (720P capable)
Video scaler in the 805 is the EXACT SAME
THE 875/905 HAVE THE REON-VX hqv scaler that is 1080p capable

4. THE 605 IS NOT THX CERTIFIED
THE 705 IS THX SELECT
THE 805 IS THX ULTRA 2 CERTIFIED

5 605 IS HIGH CURRENT OUTPUT @ 36amps
805 is 60 amps

6. 805 has Dual PUSH-PULL amplifier Design

7 805 has Certified 4ohms performance
605 doesn't

8 HDMI inputs 2/605 and 3/805

9 DSP Type / QTY 32bit 605-1, 805-3

10 805 has BURR-BROWN DAC'S

11 605 has 5 band Multi-Band Speaker EQ
805 has 7 band

12 AUTO MIC SPEAKER CALIBRATION
605 (Audyssey 2EQ)
805 (Audyssey MultEQ XT)

Anyways there are some few very very minor difference's between the 2 models .

These ones I have listed are the MAJOR and NOT SO MAJOR differences between the 2, If I have missed any please feel free to quote and add them.

AGAIN THE 805 AND ALL LOWER MODELS WILL NOT DO 1080P UPSCALING!! I MYSELF WAS GOING TO BUY THE 805 UNTIL I READ THE SMALL PRINT IN THE SPECIFICATIONS FROM ONKYO'S WEBSITE THAT ARE NOTED BY ASTERICS.

[ILLSQUAD2G]

Originally Posted by Bango

Hmm...I'm in the market to upgrade my Harman Kardon AVR 245. What are the biggest differences between the Onkyo 805 and 605? Other than the look of it? I'm trying to justfy almost $400 price difference.

BOTH THE 605 AND 805 (ALSO THE 705) HAVE THE SAME Faroudja DCDi SCALER UPTO 720p.

This is a very large mistake many buyers of the 805 have made. I ended up buying the 875 as it will do 1080p upscaling.

FROM THE USER MANUAL 805/875

805
3 HDMI
inputs, 1 output (Version 1.3a)
• HDMI up-conversion of composite video, S-Video,
and component video sources (720p capable)

875
HDMI up-conversion of composite video, S-Video,
and component sources (720p, 1080i, 1080p capable)

The only major differences going from the 605-805

1. the power output 130 watts RMS for the 805
Power output for the 605 is 90 watts RMS

2 The 605 CANNOT DO FRONT SPEAKER BRIDGING 805 CAN

3 Video scaler in the 605 is the Faroudja DCDi (720P capable)
Video scaler in the 805 is the EXACT SAME
THE 875/905 HAVE THE REON-VX hqv scaler that is 1080p capable

4. THE 605 IS NOT THX CERTIFIED
THE 705 IS THX SELECT
THE 805 IS THX ULTRA 2 CERTIFIED

5 605 IS HIGH CURRENT OUTPUT @ 36amps
805 is 60 amps

6. 805 has Dual PUSH-PULL amplifier Design

7 805 has Certified 4ohms performance
605 doesn't

8 HDMI inputs 2/605 and 3/805

9 DSP Type / QTY 32bit 605-1, 805-3

10 805 has BURR-BROWN DAC'S

11 605 has 5 band Multi-Band Speaker EQ
805 has 7 band

12 AUTO MIC SPEAKER CALIBRATION
605 (Audyssey 2EQ)
805 (Audyssey MultEQ XT)

Anyways there are some few very very minor difference's between the 2 models .

These ones I have listed are the MAJOR and NOT SO MAJOR differences between the 2, If I have missed any please feel free to quote and add them.

AGAIN THE 805 AND ALL LOWER MODELS WILL NOT DO 1080P UPSCALING!! I MYSELF WAS GOING TO BUY THE 805 UNTIL I READ THE SMALL PRINT IN THE SPECIFICATIONS FROM ONKYO'S WEBSITE THAT ARE NOTED BY ASTERICS.

THIS WILL HELP OUT WITH USER REVIEWS/OPINIONS ON THE 805

805 forum http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=857502

[TheWatcher]

dos this mean that if i play a blu true ps3 that it will not be in 1080p this confuses me a bit i thought that the signal would just go true the receiver to the tv

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by TheWatcher

dos this mean that if i play a blu true ps3 that it will not be in 1080p this confuses me a bit i thought that the signal would just go true the receiver to the tv

it should have been noted that the "upscaling" only takes place when you input an Analog source, and output it over HDMI cable.

...whatever resolution you input via HDMI will output at the same resolution via HDMI.



so lets say I connected my Nintendo Wii to the Receiver.

Wii > Component cable (480p) > Receiver (Onkyo 805) > HDMI cable (conversion @ 720p) > TV

(the Onkyo 875 will upscale the conversion @ 1080p)



...now If I connected the PS3 using HDMI only it would stay at designated resolution.

PS3 > HDMI cable (1080p) > Receiver > HDMI cable (1080p) > TV

[Rovic]

Cool, thanks for the clarifications....

[chasarms]

Just a comment that the Burr-Brown DAC that is offered on the 805 is probably one of the more significant upgrades over the lower end stuff. If you have the speakers to justify it, the Burr-Brown will certainly be noticeable. The extra 30 watts is probably not that big of a deal.

FWIW, I have the 705 and it sounds great. Although, its functionality over the 605 is minimal admittedly.I bought it for the extra HDMI and the THX certification.

[TheWatcher]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

it should have been noted that the "upscaling" only takes place when you input an Analog source, and output it over HDMI cable.

...whatever resolution you input via HDMI will output at the same resolution via HDMI.



so lets say I connected my Nintendo Wii to the Receiver.

Wii > Component cable (480p) > Receiver (Onkyo 805) > HDMI cable (conversion @ 720p) > TV

(the Onkyo 875 will upscale the conversion @ 1080p)



...now If I connected the PS3 using HDMI only it would stay at designated resolution.

PS3 > HDMI cable (1080p) > Receiver > HDMI cable (1080p) > TV

tnx thats exactly how i thought it workt it confused me a bit

[quest88]

Originally Posted by ILLSQUAD2G

BOTH THE 605 AND 805 (ALSO THE 705) HAVE THE SAME Faroudja DCDi SCALER UPTO 720p.

This is a very large mistake many buyers of the 805 have made. I ended up buying the 875 as it will do 1080p upscaling.

FROM THE USER MANUAL 805/875

805
3 HDMI
inputs, 1 output (Version 1.3a)
• HDMI up-conversion of composite video, S-Video,
and component video sources (720p capable)

875
HDMI up-conversion of composite video, S-Video,
and component sources (720p, 1080i, 1080p capable)

The only major differences going from the 605-805

1. the power output 130 watts RMS for the 805
Power output for the 605 is 90 watts RMS

2 The 605 CANNOT DO FRONT SPEAKER BRIDGING 805 CAN

3 Video scaler in the 605 is the Faroudja DCDi (720P capable)
Video scaler in the 805 is the EXACT SAME
THE 875/905 HAVE THE REON-VX hqv scaler that is 1080p capable

4. THE 605 IS NOT THX CERTIFIED
THE 705 IS THX SELECT
THE 805 IS THX ULTRA 2 CERTIFIED

5 605 IS HIGH CURRENT OUTPUT @ 36amps
805 is 60 amps

6. 805 has Dual PUSH-PULL amplifier Design

7 805 has Certified 4ohms performance
605 doesn't

8 HDMI inputs 2/605 and 3/805

9 DSP Type / QTY 32bit 605-1, 805-3

10 805 has BURR-BROWN DAC'S

11 605 has 5 band Multi-Band Speaker EQ
805 has 7 band

12 AUTO MIC SPEAKER CALIBRATION
605 (Audyssey 2EQ)
805 (Audyssey MultEQ XT)

Anyways there are some few very very minor difference's between the 2 models .

These ones I have listed are the MAJOR and NOT SO MAJOR differences between the 2, If I have missed any please feel free to quote and add them.

AGAIN THE 805 AND ALL LOWER MODELS WILL NOT DO 1080P UPSCALING!! I MYSELF WAS GOING TO BUY THE 805 UNTIL I READ THE SMALL PRINT IN THE SPECIFICATIONS FROM ONKYO'S WEBSITE THAT ARE NOTED BY ASTERICS.

THIS WILL HELP OUT WITH USER REVIEWS/OPINIONS ON THE 805

805 forum http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=857502

Thanks for the info. I have the 605 HTIB system and since the wife ok'd another ps3 for the bedroom with one exception a surround sound system I was going to stick with Onkyo and build a better system for the living room, now I know which receiver to get the 805.

[Nathan P]

Thanks for the info, is there any chance of putting up the links for the other receivers (705,875,905)??

[Cwoodall334]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

it should have been noted that the "upscaling" only takes place when you input an Analog source, and output it over HDMI cable.

...whatever resolution you input via HDMI will output at the same resolution via HDMI.



so lets say I connected my Nintendo Wii to the Receiver.

Wii > Component cable (480p) > Receiver (Onkyo 805) > HDMI cable (conversion @ 720p) > TV

(the Onkyo 875 will upscale the conversion @ 1080p)



...now If I connected the PS3 using HDMI only it would stay at designated resolution.

PS3 > HDMI cable (1080p) > Receiver > HDMI cable (1080p) > TV

Just for a little more clarification, if I only use HDMI inputs and I output that signal with HDMI, then does the 875 have any video advantages over the 805?

[ixlegitballinxl]

i have the 605.....have had for a couple months.... should of went for the 805....this type of equipment you dont buy too often.. better to get what you want and be done with it!

[paulyg]

I bought a 604 about a year ago and love it. I ordered a 705 for $575, but now I'm having second thoughts. Should I get the 805 or wait until the 2008s come out Any one with the 705 please let me know what you think. I don't want to drop $600 next year on another receiver

[MacDaddyOJack]

Originally Posted by Cwoodall334

Just for a little more clarification, if I only use HDMI inputs and I output that signal with HDMI, then does the 875 have any video advantages over the 805?

No, I bought the 805 for that very reason. It is not worth it to spend the extra $300-$400 just to get the analog upscaling to 1080p. The 805 will repeat any 1080p signal over HDMI.

[cnowels]

Originally Posted by chasarms

Just a comment that the Burr-Brown DAC that is offered on the 805 is probably one of the more significant upgrades over the lower end stuff. If you have the speakers to justify it, the Burr-Brown will certainly be noticeable. The extra 30 watts is probably not that big of a deal.

FWIW, I have the 705 and it sounds great. Although, its functionality over the 605 is minimal admittedly.I bought it for the extra HDMI and the THX certification.

Can someone explain what the Burr-Brown DAC does? I keep seeing that come up as something highly touted.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by cnowels

Can someone explain what the Burr-Brown DAC does? I keep seeing that come up as something highly touted.

DAC is an acronym for Digital to Analog Converter. Some DACs are better than others, and the Burr-Brown DACs are renowned for being up there with the best.

[gearyt]

I love my 705... and Burr-Brown DAC's have been the standard for many many years

[paulyg]

does the 705 have Burr-Brown?

[chasarms]

Originally Posted by paulyg

does the 705 have Burr-Brown?

No. have to go the 805 for that. I would have, but it is too big for my application and weighs almost twice as much.

The 705 sounds great.