Music on Blu-Ray! When?

[Tonkhao]

Hey guys, i wanna hear you opinion about future, i mean when blu will replace CD in audio. Will it be in soon future or not?

[Midnightsailor]

I sure hope it's soon. I can't wait.

[Tonkhao]

Originally Posted by Midnightsailor

I sure hope it's soon. I can't wait.

I have heard that some bands already use BLU, for example AC/DC

[Midnightsailor]

I haven't heard much but I know that Neil Young is very interested in the format... and he happens to be one of my favorite musicians.

[Tonkhao]

Originally Posted by Midnightsailor

I haven't heard much but I know that Neil Young is very interested in the format... and he happens to be one of my favorite musicians.

You are lucky man dude, my favourite is Linkin Park, wait for them :-) and for them only ) i cant already buy CD instead it`s used very much

[naturephoto1]

I kind of question whether Blu-ray will replace CD for music. Just as the other High End music formats - SACD and DVD-a, I believe that Blu-ray for music will be used by a minority (more high end and discerning fans) while CD will be what is used/collected by the masses. Also, like SACD and DVD-a, I believe that there will only be a limited amount of music released in this form.

Rich

[Tonkhao]

i hope one day music on blu will be like today music on cd

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by naturephoto1

I kind of question whether Blu-ray will replace CD for music. Just as the other High End music formats - SACD and DVD-a, I believe that Blu-ray for music will be used by a minority (more high end and discerning fans) while CD will be what is used/collected by the masses. Also, like SACD and DVD-a, I believe that there will only be a limited amount of music released in this form.

Rich

I don't know whether I agree with you on this issue Rich! And I say this, because I think CD as a format is not going to survive. You know as well as I do how much of a beating CD's are taking from Digital Downloads. There appears to be nothing the record companies can do to stop it. And the format itself is maxed out whereby they can't offer additional enhancements to entice the consumer back into the fold.

A multi-capable (A/V) format such as Blu-ray might be just the thing to get people to buy more music. Perhaps new music releases in future will include the associated music videos or a background montage of the recording as it was created.

There needs to be another format!

Is that format Blu-ray? I don't know! But perhaps it is! It won't be SACD nor will it be DVD-A, we all know that as well.

This is my take on the matter: 2-Channel Audio is DEAD! (I don't want to discuss analog/vinyl as we are discussing a digital format) Consumers today want a more expansive sound. They want to utilize every speaker in their 5.1 or 7.1 set-up. Perhaps within 5 years every artist that goes into a studio will be recording in 5.1/7.1 and a vehicle needs to be in place to support that.

The sad thing about all of this is, that music the way it was intended to be listened to is disappearing. People are no longer happy with just an aural experience.

[naturephoto1]

Hi John,

I very much appreciate your response and your take on things. The thing is that since the masses have been moving to digital downloads, MP3s, Ipods, etc., they do not realize and seem to notice the loss of information and fidelity.

That seems to be partly why SACD and DVD-a have not brought the masses to take the offerings in these formats. That is also why I was suggesting that CD would remain as the standard for the masses. They tend to resist change and to not notice improvements in sound and picture quality. They seem to opt for convenience and small size (except large TVs) at the expense of quality and performance.

This is also why I see all of the advancements in picture and audio quality of Blu-ray to be an ongoing adoption by the general public.

Rich

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by Tonkhao

i hope one day music on blu will be like today music on cd

I hope it will be better, much better.

CD quality sound isn't exactly what it should be and another format (whether that's Blu-ray or something else) hopefully brings what we've been missing all these years.

[borninusa]

Neil Young is supposed to release his Archives here within the next couple of months on blu-ray. Though, it has been pushed back mult times.

Whats cool about it (assuming it hasnt changed)...is that he is going to make it so you can download other music for the archives as he finds them via a blu-ray live sort of deal.

I think its the future of music.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by borninusa

Neil Young is supposed to release his Archives here within the next couple of months on blu-ray. Though, it has been pushed back mult times.

Whats cool about it (assuming it hasnt changed)...is that he is going to make it so you can download other music for the archives as he finds them via a blu-ray live sort of deal.

I think its the future of music.

You may have a very valid point there! I, myself, am anxiously awaiting this release as I want to see where he takes it. And if anyone can take us into a new direction it's him.

I heard there are several others planned (don't know how many exactly) and they are going to be expensive. I don't care though...I'll get them anyway!

Go Neil Go! Show us the way!

[borninusa]

I have read...and I actually think its on Amazon right now..that the Neil set is priced at over $300.

I just think the whole concept of being able to download more music (when Neil finds it...as he was quoted) is quite cool. ....beyond the whole "Ill bet its going to sound awesome".

[Galley]

Several years ago I was convinced that hybrid SACDs would replace CDs. I sold off a large majority of my collection, including some very rare discs. I have since been rebuilding that collection. I won't make that mistake again.

[PS3-Playb3yond]

Originally Posted by Galley

Several years ago I was convinced that hybrid SACDs would replace CDs. I sold off a large majority of my collection, including some very rare discs. I have since been rebuilding that collection. I won't make that mistake again.

LOL! Sorry to hear.

If they do make music in BDs they have to be surround sound. Like SACDs but better.

[Bobby Henderson]

Originally Posted by naturephoto1

The thing is that since the masses have been moving to digital downloads, MP3s, Ipods, etc., they don not realize and seem to notice the loss of information and fidelity. That seems to be partly why SACD and DVD-a have not brought the masses to take the offerings in these formats. That is also why I was suggesting that CD would remain as the standard for the masses.

This is a common myth.

DVD-A and SACD failed because the companies backing these respective formats (Warner Bros. and Sony) failed miserably in supporting them. I find it DEEPLY INSULTING for anyone to stupidly blame the general public for the very pathetic pooch screw these corporations made when launching these next generations formats.

It is not the fault of the general public that DVD-A or SACD failed. Anyone who insists upon that notion is a freaking IDIOT.

The fault of the failure of DVD-A and SACD rests 100% with Warner Bros. and Sony. The general public deserves ABSOLUTELY NO BLAME AT ALL EVER for this. Anyone wanting to counter that is stupidly WRONG. And I mean brain-dead idiotic wrong. Feces smeared in the hair stupidly wrong. Eating your momma's vomit wrong. All the way freaking WRONG.

DVD-A and SACD failed over the lack of quality of content. Nothing more, nothing less. WB and Sony stupidly thought they could get by half-assing a bunch of 30 year old classic rock re-dubs and some jazz albums and classical recordings. They figured that would be enough to move Music CD into another generation of quality. WB and Sony both thought wrong. Very wrong. And those executives in charge at the time need a drop kick to the teeth for that blatant act of ignorance. That is what it was.

The general public wants higher quality audio. But they want NEW MUSIC in whatever high resolution format is delivered. They can't give two farts about a 35 year old album from Santana. They want whatever is new and that is good in the new super high fidelity medium. Sony and WB failed 100% to deliver that with SACD and DVD-A.

Blu-ray has all of the capability of SACD and DVD-A due to its very high bandwidth. The trick is getting modern music producers to create recorded music to the standards capable of Blu-ray. Unfortunately, most of those morons seem to be far more steeped in making horribly, harshly engineered music for really crappy iPod style devices. While they continue doing that stupid crap, I will continue to not give a fart about their industry. They can go out of business for all I care. Deliver some quality product already instead of vomiting out music styles of 1990. Try doing that.

[andyman1970]

Originally Posted by John72953

This is my take on the matter: 2-Channel Audio is DEAD! (I don't want to discuss analog/vinyl as we are discussing a digital format) Consumers today want a more expansive sound. They want to utilize every speaker in their 5.1 or 7.1 set-up. Perhaps within 5 years every artist that goes into a studio will be recording in 5.1/7.1 and a vehicle needs to be in place to support that.

The sad thing about all of this is, that music the way it was intended to be listened to is disappearing. People are no longer happy with just an aural experience.

In the event this happens and 5.1 and 7.1 become standard for audio recording I wonder if companies would make car stereos that were multi-channel? I would love to hear some of my favorites like Sinatra, Josh Groban and Mozart in 5.1 or 7.1.

[naturephoto1]

Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

This is a common myth.

DVD-A and SACD failed because the companies backing these respective formats (Warner Bros. and Sony) failed miserably in supporting them. I find it DEEPLY INSULTING for anyone to stupidly blame the general public for the very pathetic pooch screw these corporations made when launching these next generations formats.

It is not the fault of the general public that DVD-A or SACD failed. Anyone who insists upon that notion is a freaking IDIOT.

The fault of the failure of DVD-A and SACD rests 100% with Warner Bros. and Sony. The general public deserves ABSOLUTELY NO BLAME AT ALL EVER for this. Anyone wanting to counter that is stupidly WRONG. And I mean brain-dead idiotic wrong. Feces smeared in the hair stupidly wrong. Eating your momma's vomit wrong. All the way freaking WRONG.

DVD-A and SACD failed over the lack of quality of content. Nothing more, nothing less. WB and Sony stupidly thought they could get by half-assing a bunch of 30 year old classic rock re-dubs and some jazz albums and classical recordings. They figured that would be enough to move Music CD into another generation of quality. WB and Sony both thought wrong. Very wrong. And those executives in charge at the time need a drop kick to the teeth for that blatant act of ignorance. That is what it was.

The general public wants higher quality audio. But they want NEW MUSIC in whatever high resolution format is delivered. They can't give two farts about a 35 year old album from Santana. They want whatever is new and that is good in the new super high fidelity medium. Sony and WB failed 100% to deliver that with SACD and DVD-A.

Blu-ray has all of the capability of SACD and DVD-A due to its very high bandwidth. The trick is getting modern music producers to create recorded music to the standards capable of Blu-ray. Unfortunately, most of those morons seem to be far more steeped in making horribly, harshly engineered music for really crappy iPod style devices. While they continue doing that stupid crap, I will continue to not give a fart about their industry. They can go out of business for all I care. Deliver some quality product already instead of vomiting out music styles of 1990. Try doing that.

Nice to see how very polite you can be.

Rich

[Hammie]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

In the event this happens and 5.1 and 7.1 become standard for audio recording I wonder if companies would make car stereos that were multi-channel? I would love to hear some of my favorites like Sinatra, Josh Groban and Mozart in 5.1 or 7.1.

This can already be done. Its not standard by any means but you add a BD player, a DSP, and amps and you get surround in your vehicle. The issue with surround in your car is how do you configure it? If you are in the driver seat, you will not get much LCR staging since you are sitting way on the left side of the vehicle.

Ideally, you would need to sit in the center of the back seat and make sure the two front seats were not in the way of the front L/R speakers. Since the higher frequencies have a tighter sine wave, they are more directional and will not go around objects such as seats or head rests as easily as your low frequencies from your subs.

Anyway, back on topic. Music on BD is not that interesting to me. What I would prefer is to have the option to download songs in an uncompressed codec or FLAC. This would allow you to get high quality music. BTW, if you were unaware, you can get both DD5.1 and DTS5.1 surround WAV files from the Internet. They sound fabulous on my home stereo streamed from my networked media server.

[Midnightsailor]

Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

This is a common myth.

DVD-A and SACD failed because the companies backing these respective formats (Warner Bros. and Sony) failed miserably in supporting them. I find it DEEPLY INSULTING for anyone to stupidly blame the general public for the very pathetic pooch screw these corporations made when launching these next generations formats.

It is not the fault of the general public that DVD-A or SACD failed. Anyone who insists upon that notion is a freaking IDIOT.

The fault of the failure of DVD-A and SACD rests 100% with Warner Bros. and Sony. The general public deserves ABSOLUTELY NO BLAME AT ALL EVER for this. Anyone wanting to counter that is stupidly WRONG. And I mean brain-dead idiotic wrong. Feces smeared in the hair stupidly wrong. Eating your momma's vomit wrong. All the way freaking WRONG.

DVD-A and SACD failed over the lack of quality of content. Nothing more, nothing less. WB and Sony stupidly thought they could get by half-assing a bunch of 30 year old classic rock re-dubs and some jazz albums and classical recordings. They figured that would be enough to move Music CD into another generation of quality. WB and Sony both thought wrong. Very wrong. And those executives in charge at the time need a drop kick to the teeth for that blatant act of ignorance. That is what it was.

The general public wants higher quality audio. But they want NEW MUSIC in whatever high resolution format is delivered. They can't give two farts about a 35 year old album from Santana. They want whatever is new and that is good in the new super high fidelity medium. Sony and WB failed 100% to deliver that with SACD and DVD-A.

Blu-ray has all of the capability of SACD and DVD-A due to its very high bandwidth. The trick is getting modern music producers to create recorded music to the standards capable of Blu-ray. Unfortunately, most of those morons seem to be far more steeped in making horribly, harshly engineered music for really crappy iPod style devices. While they continue doing that stupid crap, I will continue to not give a fart about their industry. They can go out of business for all I care. Deliver some quality product already instead of vomiting out music styles of 1990. Try doing that.

You've got to be kidding me. There are plenty of people, including myself, who have good taste and would rather hear the "30 year old classic rock re-dubs and some jazz albums and classical recordings." In my opinion, there were some amazing releases. I honestly don't think the problem was the quality of the releases. Not to mention, they would eventually release all of the "modern music" if it caught on. The reason it didn't catch on is because no one knew about it. I meet people every day who still have never heard of either SACD or DVD-A. Maybe these companies should've done more promotion.