Music on Blu-Ray! When?

[Midnightsailor]

I haven't heard much but I know that Neil Young is very interested in the format... and he happens to be one of my favorite musicians.

[Tonkhao]

Originally Posted by Midnightsailor

I haven't heard much but I know that Neil Young is very interested in the format... and he happens to be one of my favorite musicians.

You are lucky man dude, my favourite is Linkin Park, wait for them :-) and for them only ) i cant already buy CD instead it`s used very much

[naturephoto1]

I kind of question whether Blu-ray will replace CD for music. Just as the other High End music formats - SACD and DVD-a, I believe that Blu-ray for music will be used by a minority (more high end and discerning fans) while CD will be what is used/collected by the masses. Also, like SACD and DVD-a, I believe that there will only be a limited amount of music released in this form.

Rich

[Tonkhao]

i hope one day music on blu will be like today music on cd

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by Tonkhao

i hope one day music on blu will be like today music on cd

I hope it will be better, much better.

CD quality sound isn't exactly what it should be and another format (whether that's Blu-ray or something else) hopefully brings what we've been missing all these years.

[borninusa]

Neil Young is supposed to release his Archives here within the next couple of months on blu-ray. Though, it has been pushed back mult times.

Whats cool about it (assuming it hasnt changed)...is that he is going to make it so you can download other music for the archives as he finds them via a blu-ray live sort of deal.

I think its the future of music.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by borninusa

Neil Young is supposed to release his Archives here within the next couple of months on blu-ray. Though, it has been pushed back mult times.

Whats cool about it (assuming it hasnt changed)...is that he is going to make it so you can download other music for the archives as he finds them via a blu-ray live sort of deal.

I think its the future of music.

You may have a very valid point there! I, myself, am anxiously awaiting this release as I want to see where he takes it. And if anyone can take us into a new direction it's him.

I heard there are several others planned (don't know how many exactly) and they are going to be expensive. I don't care though...I'll get them anyway!

Go Neil Go! Show us the way!

[borninusa]

I have read...and I actually think its on Amazon right now..that the Neil set is priced at over $300.

I just think the whole concept of being able to download more music (when Neil finds it...as he was quoted) is quite cool. ....beyond the whole "Ill bet its going to sound awesome".

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by naturephoto1

I kind of question whether Blu-ray will replace CD for music. Just as the other High End music formats - SACD and DVD-a, I believe that Blu-ray for music will be used by a minority (more high end and discerning fans) while CD will be what is used/collected by the masses. Also, like SACD and DVD-a, I believe that there will only be a limited amount of music released in this form.

Rich

I don't know whether I agree with you on this issue Rich! And I say this, because I think CD as a format is not going to survive. You know as well as I do how much of a beating CD's are taking from Digital Downloads. There appears to be nothing the record companies can do to stop it. And the format itself is maxed out whereby they can't offer additional enhancements to entice the consumer back into the fold.

A multi-capable (A/V) format such as Blu-ray might be just the thing to get people to buy more music. Perhaps new music releases in future will include the associated music videos or a background montage of the recording as it was created.

There needs to be another format!

Is that format Blu-ray? I don't know! But perhaps it is! It won't be SACD nor will it be DVD-A, we all know that as well.

This is my take on the matter: 2-Channel Audio is DEAD! (I don't want to discuss analog/vinyl as we are discussing a digital format) Consumers today want a more expansive sound. They want to utilize every speaker in their 5.1 or 7.1 set-up. Perhaps within 5 years every artist that goes into a studio will be recording in 5.1/7.1 and a vehicle needs to be in place to support that.

The sad thing about all of this is, that music the way it was intended to be listened to is disappearing. People are no longer happy with just an aural experience.

[naturephoto1]

Hi John,

I very much appreciate your response and your take on things. The thing is that since the masses have been moving to digital downloads, MP3s, Ipods, etc., they do not realize and seem to notice the loss of information and fidelity.

That seems to be partly why SACD and DVD-a have not brought the masses to take the offerings in these formats. That is also why I was suggesting that CD would remain as the standard for the masses. They tend to resist change and to not notice improvements in sound and picture quality. They seem to opt for convenience and small size (except large TVs) at the expense of quality and performance.

This is also why I see all of the advancements in picture and audio quality of Blu-ray to be an ongoing adoption by the general public.

Rich

[andyman1970]

Originally Posted by John72953

This is my take on the matter: 2-Channel Audio is DEAD! (I don't want to discuss analog/vinyl as we are discussing a digital format) Consumers today want a more expansive sound. They want to utilize every speaker in their 5.1 or 7.1 set-up. Perhaps within 5 years every artist that goes into a studio will be recording in 5.1/7.1 and a vehicle needs to be in place to support that.

The sad thing about all of this is, that music the way it was intended to be listened to is disappearing. People are no longer happy with just an aural experience.

In the event this happens and 5.1 and 7.1 become standard for audio recording I wonder if companies would make car stereos that were multi-channel? I would love to hear some of my favorites like Sinatra, Josh Groban and Mozart in 5.1 or 7.1.

[Hammie]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

In the event this happens and 5.1 and 7.1 become standard for audio recording I wonder if companies would make car stereos that were multi-channel? I would love to hear some of my favorites like Sinatra, Josh Groban and Mozart in 5.1 or 7.1.

This can already be done. Its not standard by any means but you add a BD player, a DSP, and amps and you get surround in your vehicle. The issue with surround in your car is how do you configure it? If you are in the driver seat, you will not get much LCR staging since you are sitting way on the left side of the vehicle.

Ideally, you would need to sit in the center of the back seat and make sure the two front seats were not in the way of the front L/R speakers. Since the higher frequencies have a tighter sine wave, they are more directional and will not go around objects such as seats or head rests as easily as your low frequencies from your subs.

Anyway, back on topic. Music on BD is not that interesting to me. What I would prefer is to have the option to download songs in an uncompressed codec or FLAC. This would allow you to get high quality music. BTW, if you were unaware, you can get both DD5.1 and DTS5.1 surround WAV files from the Internet. They sound fabulous on my home stereo streamed from my networked media server.

[Sidewinder]

Originally Posted by John72953

This is my take on the matter: 2-Channel Audio is DEAD! (I don't want to discuss analog/vinyl as we are discussing a digital format) Consumers today want a more expansive sound. They want to utilize every speaker in their 5.1 or 7.1 set-up. Perhaps within 5 years every artist that goes into a studio will be recording in 5.1/7.1 and a vehicle needs to be in place to support that.

The sad thing about all of this is, that music the way it was intended to be listened to is disappearing. People are no longer happy with just an aural experience.

100% agree, the good thing about Blu-ray as an HD Audio format is the following:

- no need for a new dedicated Audioplayer
- no rivaling format
- people, who watch a live concert or a movie with some outstanding music tracks on BD, will realize how amazingly good a 5.1 or even 7.1 Soundtrack can be, which could very well lead to a demand for studio albums on BD.

- if you have a BD Player, you most certainly own a surround receiver and matching speakers, so every BD owner is actually suited to listen to the enhanced music experience. Several million potential buyers already there, waiting to get some supply.

- downloadable Mp3 files are no competition to HD audio, so this would be a wise move to reinvigorate the physical media music market.

I'm very confident in the future of BD-audio. The majors just need to get their act together...

[Clark Kent]

There is a definite market for Blu-ray audio. The real question is whether that market is big enough to be a viable business proposition for the music labels. Music sales overall, even factoring in the sale of digital downloads, is down and likely never to return to the levels seen in the late 90's. I expect to see the minor labels attack this problem first. They are already accustomed to lower potential sales on an album and can make a little money even when a title only sells 5000 copies.

[ryoohki]

Personnally never bought an album in MP3 as i don't pay 10$(whole album) of overcompressed s*** when i can own the CD for 14$ and sample it myself in FLAC on my HDD linked to my 3808ci...

I know that the fact that you can be a single song is appeling tought because a lot of time, some group, the music suck.

I'am not a big fan of old rock 1970 and the like. I started listened to music in 1990 for real so i'am not interested in that music..

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by ryoohki

Personnally never bought an album in MP3 as i don't pay 10$(whole album) of overcompressed s*** when i can own the CD for 14$ and sample it myself in FLAC on my HDD linked to my 3808ci...

I know that the fact that you can be a single song is appeling tought because a lot of time, some group, the music suck.

I'am not a big fan of old rock 1970 and the like. I started listened to music in 1990 for real so i'am not interested in that music..

+1. No, +100.

I'm with ya 100% on that score! I have never bought an album or a single from any download site and I never will. People think it's a good deal at $0.99 or $9.99 for the full album, but what do you get? NOTHING! The sound is horrible and doesn't even come close to what the artist recorded.

I'll take a physical copy any day of the week.

[york weir]

Originally Posted by naturephoto1

I kind of question whether Blu-ray will replace CD for music. Just as the other High End music formats - SACD and DVD-a, I believe that Blu-ray for music will be used by a minority (more high end and discerning fans) while CD will be what is used/collected by the masses. Also, like SACD and DVD-a, I believe that there will only be a limited amount of music released in this form.

Rich

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[danbrch]

Aren't CD's good enough anymore?!?