Onkyo TX-SR606 $333.06 at Amazon

[BluLobsta]

Great price for this great receiver...came down by $17 in the past couple hours. Cmon keep going lol.

[BluLobsta]

and now it went up by 6 bucks...$339.06...wth!!

[Driver_King]

Here's a way better deal on a silver one by the way... The link in my sig is for a black one.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

Great price for this great receiver...came down by $17 in the past couple hours. Cmon keep going lol.

Good post, killer deal if i didn't already have the 605

[Bizdady]

I got one for 319 from amazon about 2 weeks but sent it back. Rebought later with speakers for about same price.

[neogeo64]

ecost has it for $256.99

[BluLobsta]

Well, I have to be honest, I'm not going to be able to hold out much longer...these deals are way too good.

[VHS4Ever]

How good is uncompress compared to compress audio? Is it as noticable as standard video and HD video?

[BluLobsta]

Originally Posted by VHS4Ever

How good is uncompress compared to compress audio? Is it as noticable as standard video and HD video?

I think that they only remove certain high frequencies (above human hearing) in order to compress the data, so it shouldn't be that noticable.

[Driver_King]

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

I think that they only remove certain high frequencies (above human hearing) in order to compress the data, so it shouldn't be that noticable.

What?

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

I think that they only remove certain high frequencies (above human hearing) in order to compress the data, so it shouldn't be that noticable.

Uhm, no....

I think you're getting TrueHD confused with lossy codecs. TrueHD I believe is slightly smaller in bitrate than other codecs because its supposedly only removing "unhearable" data.

Lossy audio is forced to remove data that can be heard. Less of a dynamic range, less of a "full" sound. Of course, this is just a layman's explanation.

[BluLobsta]

Ok, that makes sense. Bear with me...noob here

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by aramis109

I think you're getting TrueHD confused with lossy codecs. TrueHD I believe is slightly smaller in bitrate than other codecs because its supposedly only removing "unhearable" data.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to Dolby Digital Plus or DTS HD(not Master Audio), which are lossy codecs that are supposed to limit to only audible frequencies. Both Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA are lossless, compressed audio codecs meaning that there is no cutoff of frequencies.

[dobyblue]

They don't remove any frequencies - they remove what's not being used.

Where 24/96 5.1 PCM will roll along at 13.824 Mbps during periods of silence, dts-ma and TrueHD will drop down to well below 100 Kbps.

Instead of going "silence" 5 million times, they will go 5 million @ "silence" then in 5 million samples come and get the next piece of information.

That's a very untechnical information and TrueHD still requires a clock packet, but you get the idea.

As for Onkyo on eCost, they warranty their refurbs for 1-year which is most excellent. I have had good experiences with eCost.

[Riff Magnum]

Originally Posted by neogeo64

ecost has it for $256.99

i think this is the same link Driver King posted, but regardless, it's now out of stock.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

They don't remove any frequencies - they remove what's not being used.

Where 24/96 5.1 PCM will roll along at 13.824 Mbps during periods of silence, dts-ma and TrueHD will drop down to well below 100 Kbps.

Instead of going "silence" 5 million times, they will go 5 million @ "silence" then in 5 million samples come and get the next piece of information.

That's a very untechnical information and TrueHD still requires a clock packet, but you get the idea.

As for Onkyo on eCost, they warranty their refurbs for 1-year which is most excellent. I have had good experiences with eCost.

There we go. Sorry I was a bit wrong as well. But bottom line is that there's more than a little difference between lossy and lossless, so don't fear taking the plunge on this receiver!