"Two formats better than one?"

[JTK]

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6435465.html

I wholeheartedly disagree. You need go no further back in time to when DVD took off for the races and never looked back to see the fallacy here.

For some reason, a lot of HD-DVD supporters are starting to tow a line like this because they know HD-DVD isn't going to win outright and BD isn't going to be wiped out. There's just no way it's going to happen.

This is sheer nonsense. A unified format means: Solidarity, 100 percent hardware/software support which means much higher consumer confidence, zero risk, better sales.

Frankly anyone that tows this line is someone that I suspect being favored towards HD-DVD at the least.

Read the article and see what you all think.

[HDJK]

Agreed. Especially this is nonsense:

'Warner’s The Departed was ranked No. 1 and No. 3 on Blu-ray and HD DVD, respectively. Combined, the sales to date of The Departed more than double sales of Sony’s Casino Royale, the biggest selling Blu-ray-only title to date. And Departed did it with $30 million less in domestic box-office behind it.

The Departed isn’t the only dual-format release to beat the best-selling single-format releases, either. Superman Returns, released in 2006 against a smaller hardware base, also outsold Casino Royale, according to sources familiar with the data. So did Happy Feet, released in March.'

I mean, daahh, of course they sell more if they are available for both formats. And if there is only one format left, the ones from the other camp (ahem.. Hd-DVD.. cough) won't be buying any HD movies anymore? They will go out and buy a BD player and the movies, because people want content.

[Spankey]

They are all but admitting that HD-DVD is losing. The only argument left now, is that more people would buy discs if released to both formats. Nah. Let HD-DVD die.

[Iceman_II]

everyone who reads this crap needs to post comments -

Here is what I posted:

Paul, you should be ashamed of yourself... and you can feel bad all the way to the bank when you cash your check from Microsoft. Now that the HD-DVD fanbois see that they can not beat down the behemouth that is BD, they are falling back from their position of dominance to a position of "why can't we all just get along". This is a falacy of the highest order. Sustaining dual formats doubles production costs (have to maintain two production lines) doubles retailer costs (have to finance twice as much unsold stock until it is sold), and will prevent the average user from adopting either format, instead wating for a clear winner. The one thing sustaining two formats will surely do is postpone general adoption of a unified format long enough for Microsoft to perfect/implement download of HD content, a market which would be dominated by those "good" people in Redmond. Articles like yours only serve to keep the spin of FUD (fear uncertainty and doubt) going. Shame on you!

[Scorxpion]

BD is my Choice,HD-DVD is a loosing format just face the facts.Stop throwing FUD.IF the departed was outselling the HD-DVD counterpart because it does include a PCM soundtrack.

Hey Warner just watch BLOOD Diamond when its released on June5 how is going to surpasses and exceed the HD-DVD counter part because does include a PCM Soundtrack a pure 5.1 surround sound out of the BOX.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by sltmag

They are all but admitting that HD-DVD is losing. The only argument left now, is that more people would buy discs if released to both formats. Nah. Let HD-DVD die.

Or as Esox50 put it in another thread last week:

Originally Posted by HD-DVD Zealots

"We're not getting our asses kicked THAT badly...

[MasterXeus]

Sure, he's right; studios should release movies in both formats. I think he was talking to Universal. Did you hear that Universal? You need to release in both formats!

[dialog_gvf]

Suing for peace?

>Superman Returns, released in 2006 against a smaller hardware base, also outsold Casino Royale

Is this even true?

But: Xbox 360 has outsold the PS/3. Numbers without analysis is nonsense.

Gary

[dialog_gvf]

Paul Sweeting is editor of Content Agenda.

He certainly is.

[joeorc]

Originally Posted by JTK

http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6435465.html

I wholeheartedly disagree. You need go no further back in time to when DVD took off for the races and never looked back to see the fallacy here.

For some reason, a lot of HD-DVD supporters are starting to tow a line like this because they know HD-DVD isn't going to win outright and BD isn't going to be wiped out. There's just no way it's going to happen.

This is sheer nonsense. A unified format means: Solidarity, 100 percent hardware/software support which means much higher consumer confidence, zero risk, better sales.

Frankly anyone that tows this line is someone that I suspect being favored towards HD-DVD at the least.

Read the article and see what you all think.

what i got from that article...please..please..blu-ray studios please release movies on the HD-DVD format....notice with out J6P buying ANY REAL AMMOUNT OF HD-DVD OR blu-ray content...wait scratch that "HD-DVD content"... ..because TO j6p STANDARD DVD is just fine right now.

.while the BDA can keep selling games UNTIL the price of disc's fall..that is how you lower the cost per disc..sell disc's..the HD-DVD format has to rely ON Movies to be sold to lower the COST per disc...it comes down to a war of Attrition ONE OF WHICH in my OPINION HD-DVD cannot win .since right now SONY was able to bump UP THE BLUE LASER DIODE PRODUCTION TO (5 MILLION PER MONTH) COMPARED TO WHAT OTHER DIODE MANUF. CAN MATCH THAT..?..sony has been working on this since even before 1996 to get the blue type diode production up..looks like it will finaly pay off

5 million ..where are all those diodes going..hmm

[WriteSimply]

I wanted to post a comment but apparently the page's script prevents me from doing so:

"We're sorry, but we do not allow comments that contain HTML code, expletives, and certain terms common in spam. Please try editing your comment."

Here's what I wanted to post:

Your conclusion, that the best HD strategy for the optical format is for studios to publish in both formats, is myopic. The argument about Casino Royale Nielsen's number as compared to The Departed, Superman Returns or Happy Feet can be simply deduced as early adopters buying movies that their format supports.

Since the Warner releases are in both formats, logically the Nielsen's number is higher on all three of those Warner titles. However, if there is only BD and Warner release only in BD, the number would be the sum of these two formats. This argument also works if BD never existed.

Supporting two formats, which Warner and Paramount do, is a myopic strategic move. It only prolongs the war to the detriment of both optical formats. Regular people are unlikely to adopt these formats in droves.

It is really up to Warner, Paramount or Universal to shorten the duration of this war. Warner and Paramount need only to commit to BD to change the outcome. Similarly Universal only need to support BD to turn the tide and gain the general public's confidence that the war is over.

The studios have a lot to gain if they only make the right decision. Hopefully the executives make the call before it is too late.

Where exactly are the HTML code, expletives or common SPAM terms in the comments?


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[dobyblue]

This guy says that The Departed sold "more than double" what Casino Royale sold altogether.

Did The Departed sell 119,360 copies? I don't think so. It would have to sell that much in order to double what CR sold.

This is the second time I've seen a useless article from this guy.

[dialog_gvf]

Warner’s The Departed was ranked No. 1 and No. 3 on Blu-ray and HD DVD, respectively. Combined, the sales to date of The Departed more than double sales of Sony’s Casino Royale, the biggest selling Blu-ray-only title to date. And Departed did it with $30 million less in domestic box-office behind it.

Skill testing question ladies and gentleman. What is wrong with this argument?

Hints:

First quarter ended March 31
Casino Royale was released on March 13
The Departed was released on Feb 13

Gary

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by WriteSimply

I wanted to post a comment but apparently the page's script prevents me from doing so:



Here's what I wanted to post:

Your conclusion, that the best HD strategy for the optical format is for studios to publish in both formats, is myopic. The argument about Casino Royale Nielsen's number as compared to The Departed, Superman Returns or Happy Feet can be simply deduced as early adopters buying movies that their format supports.

Since the Warner releases are in both formats, logically the Nielsen's number is higher on all three of those Warner titles. However, if there is only BD and Warner release only in BD, the number would be the sum of these two formats. This argument also works if BD never existed.

Supporting two formats, which Warner and Paramount do, is a myopic strategic move. It only prolongs the war to the detriment of both optical formats. Regular people are unlikely to adopt these formats in droves.

It is really up to Warner, Paramount or Universal to shorten the duration of this war. Warner and Paramount need only to commit to BD to change the outcome. Similarly Universal only need to support BD to turn the tide and gain the general public's confidence that the war is over.

The studios have a lot to gain if they only make the right decision. Hopefully the executives make the call before it is too late.

Where exactly are the HTML code, expletives or common SPAM terms in the comments?


fuad

Yeah I had similar trouble. That adding comments is infuriating.