Onkyo TX-SR706 Official Thread

[dobyblue]

Onkyo TX-SR706

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07/22/08 - UPPER SADDLE RIVER, NJ -- Onkyo has introduced two new 7.1-channel home theater packaged systems that combine the latest in high resolution audio and video processing with the simplicity of an all-in-one system. Both the HT-S7100 and the HT-S6100 include powerful 130 watt-per-channel A/V receivers with HDMI inputs for up to four sources, including internal processing for the latest high resolution audio formats and 1080i video upscaling. The receivers are matched with a high-performance 7.1-channel speaker and active subwoofer package, and the company's highly regarded iPod dock.

"These systems are a simple, foolproof, and extremely cost-effective solution for high end home theater," commented Onkyo Marketing Manager Paul Wasek. "They include all the audio and video processing needed to take full advantage of the audio and video capabilities of Blu-Ray disc players and modern HD video displays, without the complexities of an individual component system. With one-cable HDMI connectivity, Audyssey automatic room setup and calibration, and Onkyo's signature audio performance, these systems are an unbeatable value."


For connectivity, the HT-S7100 and HT-S6100 A/V receivers each feature four HDMI inputs, including support for 1080p video and DeepColor™ capability. There is internal audio processing for the latest Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Digital Plus, DTS-HD Master Audio, and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio formats, making it possible to extract the full audio potential of the Blu-ray disc format. For video, the receivers include Faroudja DCDi Edge processing that is capable of upscaling all video inputs to 1080i resolution for output via HDMI, improving picture quality and simplifying the connection to HD video displays.


Onkyo's HT-S7100 and HT-S6100 each feature seven satellite speakers and a powerful subwoofer for deep bass reproduction. The front L/R and horizontal center channel speakers each feature a pair of 3-1/8 inch cone woofers and a high quality 1-inch balanced tweeter. For a coherent and timbre-matched surround field, the included surround speakers each use the same drivers as the front speakers, but employ only a single woofer. Each system includes a high-power downfiring subwoofer with a 10-inch cone driver with an internal 290 watt amplification module. All crossover points in each system can be set to any of eight possible settings for ideal integration with the environment and listener preferences.


Each of the new systems includes the highly acclaimed Audyssey 2EQ room correction and calibration system, greatly improving and speeding up setup and optimization of the loudspeaker system in any environment. They also employ Audyssey's Dynamic EQ algorithm, which refines the system's frequency response and surround levels moment-by-moment to compensate for deteriorations in the listening experience at different volume levels. When used in combination with the Audyssey 2EQ system, this feature tailors the receiver's output to correct for room acoustics, listening position, and playback-level distortions, delivering an overall experience that is a much closer match to what the audio production engineers originally intended.


The Onkyo HT-S7100 and HT-R6100 each include a version of Onkyo's exclusive iPod dock/charging units. The HT-S7100 features the A/V capable DS-A1XP dock, while the HT-S6100 includes the audio-only DS-A1L.


Both of the systems include a full-function RI (Remote Interactive) remote control and Onkyo's RIHD (Remote Interactive over HDMI) capability allows them to seamlessly integrate with other leading brand-name devices, including all Toshiba CE-Link equipment and selected Panasonic VIERA Link, Sharp, and Samsung products. Each includes a 30-preset AM/FM tuner. The HT-S7100 is also Sirius Satellite Radio Ready for those desiring to add this service to their entertainment system. (need to add that 1 pair of speaker stands is included in this package)


Finally, the HT-S7100 and HT-S6100 each include Onkyo's new Music Optimizer software, which improves the quality of MP3 and AAC encoded audio source material. While these compressed audio formats sound quite acceptable over small headphones or PC speaker systems, when reproduced on a full-scale home theater system the loss of high-frequency information becomes much more apparent. The Music Optimizer employs sophisticated equalization and optimization algorithms to overcome these faults, and enhances the reproduction quality of digitally compressed music.


The Onkyo HT-S7100 will be available in August at a suggested retail price of $799. The HT-S6100 is now shipping and has a suggested retail price of $699.


Onkyo, which means 'audio' or 'sound' in Japanese, has been producing precision audio components for over a half-century. The company's philosophy is to deliver products that are superbly designed and built to a consistently outstanding standard of excellence. Today, Onkyo is at the forefront of the home theater and digital revolutions. For more information about this and other fine Onkyo products, visit http://www.onkyousa.com or call 800-229-1687.

SO the 806 will have 3 HDMI 1.3 inputs and THX™ Ultra 2 Plus™ - good stuff.
Wonder if they'll stick with the PCM1796 DAC's? Site shows 24/192 Burr Browns, hopefully it's the same as the 805.


http://onkyousa.com/press_releases.cfm?id=144

[un4gvn94538]

was waiting for the 706 to see if it would upscale to 1080 but it doesnt. checked the onk site side by side comparison of the 705 and 706 and every thing is identical. whats the point of the 706? the 06 of the model #?

[dobyblue]

The 805 and 806 are identical too, and according to the press release they're not.

So maybe they've just copied everything and haven't updated yet. At the very least the THX implementation is not the same.

[Collectors Set]

Well this news should cause a further drop in prices on the 705 & 805 as there are a bunch of these still out there waiting to be sold.

[Collectors Set]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

The 805 and 806 are identical too, and according to the press release they're not.

So maybe they've just copied everything and haven't updated yet. At the very least the THX implementation is not the same.

What about the DAC's

edit: found them -- still Burr Brown. This is really interesting. Wonder if the 805 will dip below the Amazon low of $599 from like 5 weeks ago.

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

The 805 and 806 are identical too, and according to the press release they're not.

So maybe they've just copied everything and haven't updated yet. At the very least the THX implementation is not the same.

here is the press release that mention the receivers.

http://onkyousa.com/press_releases.cfm?id=145

[Nathan P]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

The 805 and 806 are identical too, and according to the press release they're not.

So maybe they've just copied everything and haven't updated yet. At the very least the THX implementation is not the same.

I think that is exactly what has happened, if you call up the rear view of the 706 it quite clearly shows 4 hdmi inputs, and 5 on the 806.
BTW for my fellow UK readers there not up on the UK web site yet - looks like our american friends get them first

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by Nathan P

I think that is exactly what has happened, if you call up the rear view of the 706 it quite clearly shows 4 hdmi inputs, and 5 on the 806.
BTW for my fellow UK readers there not up on the UK web site yet - looks like our american friends get them first

i was about to post the same. they did copy and paste the features. there seems to be trade offs on the new 706 from the 705. the rear of the 706 doesnt have optical out, and the remote looks like it has less to it as well. i would describe the remote looking more like the 605 now, than the remote of the 705 looking like the 805.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Collectors Set

What about the DAC's

edit: found them -- still Burr Brown. This is really interesting. Wonder if the 805 will dip below the Amazon low of $599 from like 5 weeks ago.

Yes, still Burr Brown, but there are plenty of different BB DAC's.

PCM1791A
PCM1796
PCM1792

They all have different specs:

PCM1791A

24-Bit Resolution
Analog Performance:
Dynamic Range: 113 dB
THD+N: 0.001%
Full-Scale Output: 2.1 V RMS (at Postamp)
Differential Voltage Output: 3.2 Vp-p
8× Oversampling Digital Filter:
Stop-Band Attenuation: –82 dB
Pass-Band Ripple: ±0.002 dB

PCM1796

24-Bit Resolution
Analog Performance:
Dynamic Range: 123 dB
THD+N: 0.0005%
Differential Current Output: 4 mA p-p
8× Oversampling Digital Filter:
Stop-Band Attenuation: –98 dB
Pass-Band Ripple: ±0.0002 dB

PCM1792

24-Bit Resolution
Analog Performance:
Dynamic Range:
132 dB (9 V rms, Mono)
129 dB (4.5 V rms, Stereo)
127 dB (2 V rms, Stereo)
THD+N: 0.0004%
Differential Current Output: 7.8 mA p-p
8× Oversampling Digital Filter:
Stop-Band Attenuation: –130 dB
Pass-Band Ripple: ±0.00001 dB

All of these DAC chipsets support DSD to analog conversion, for SACD heads.

Here's a list of some of the receivers and what BB chipsets they use.

Burr-Brown PCM1791A  113dB SNR  $ 3.00/ea    Yamaha RX-V3800, Yamaha RX-V1800, Denon 3808, 4308 and DVD-2930CI
Burr-Brown PCM1796   123dB SNR  $ 6.50/ea    Yamaha RX-Z11, Onkyo 805/875/905, Denon 5308CI and DVD-3930CI
Burr-Brown PCM1792A  127dB SNR  $13.00/ea    ?
Burr-Brown PCM1792   132dB SNR  $13.65/ea    Yamaha RX-Z9, Denon 5805ci and DVD-5910

[sinister184]

wheres the Onkyo Blu-ray player?

[blu master]

Would of being nice if they changed up the design a bit

[Footloose301]

I'm glad it hasn't changed so much since I just bought the TX-SR805 last week

[quexos]

Originally Posted by Footloose301

I'm glad it hasn't changed so much since I just bought the TX-SR805 last week

hmm could you tell me how much the TX-SR805 is please ?

[Collectors Set]

Originally Posted by quexos

hmm could you tell me how much the TX-SR805 is please ?

best price Amazon is had in recent weeks is right now for $685 w/ FREE shipping. There was a stretch of 4 days about 6-8 weeks ago where it dipped to $599 shipped.

[Collectors Set]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Yes, still Burr Brown, but there are plenty of different BB DAC's.

Thanks for posting that grid chart

[quexos]

Originally Posted by Collectors Set

best price Amazon is had in recent weeks is right now for $685 w/ FREE shipping. There was a stretch of 4 days about 6-8 weeks ago where it dipped to $599 shipped.

Okay cause I think a few months ago I saw this model at 1500 Euros (2400 dollars) but then again it could be the TX-SR875 I'm not sure anymore

[Headphone Czar]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Yes, still Burr Brown, but there are plenty of different BB DAC's.

PCM1791A
PCM1796
PCM1792

They all have different specs:

PCM1791A


PCM1796


PCM1792


All of these DAC chipsets support DSD to analog conversion, for SACD heads.

Here's a list of some of the receivers and what BB chipsets they use.

Burr-Brown PCM1791A  113dB SNR  $ 3.00/ea    Yamaha RX-V3800, Yamaha RX-V1800, Denon 3808, 4308 and DVD-2930CI
Burr-Brown PCM1796   123dB SNR  $ 6.50/ea    Yamaha RX-Z11, Onkyo 805/875/905, Denon 5308CI and DVD-3930CI
Burr-Brown PCM1792A  127dB SNR  $13.00/ea    ?
Burr-Brown PCM1792   132dB SNR  $13.65/ea    Yamaha RX-Z9, Denon 5805ci and DVD-5910

sad.. The Flagship RX uses a BB DAC My Benchmark DAC 1 was much more impressive..AD1853 DAC I believe? & jitter immune according to benchmark.. Plus support XLR outs..

[Mystique]

So the new Htib comes with loseless sound?

[Footloose301]

Originally Posted by Mystique

So the new Htib comes with loseless sound?

Technically no. It doesn't come with lossless sound. You need the Blu-ray player and movie with the lossless track and an HDMI cable. But, yes. The new HTIB is capable of lossless audio production.

[dobyblue]

It should be noted, according to the manuals on Onkyo's website for the TX-SR806, TX-SR876 and TX-NR906, that the high end models from Onkyo have fixed one or two issues, but removed some features.

1) The new models no longer feature Burr Brown DAC's - but Cirrus Logic DAC's. Cirrus Logic were used in quite a number of Marantz SACD products. Which is better? It depends on how they're implented and the components around them.

2) The new models no longer support DSD>Analog direct conversion. All DSD signals are processed into PCM, regardless of whether direct is used or not. This is not mentioned on the list of features (in fact it says DSD Direct is supported), but the manual states it quite clearly that it is not.

3) Support for 24/192 dts-ma is now available. On the -xx5 models all 24/192 dts-ma sources are processed as 24/96

4) Support for 24/192 Dolby TrueHD multi-channel is now available. On the -xx5 models all 24/192 TrueHD sources are processed at 2-channel, regardless of how many channels were in the source.