Why are Apple being so stubborn of not embracing BD?

[hendra]

Why are Apple being so stubborn of not offering their laptops with Blu-ray drives? Do they really think that we would prefer to rent their HD movies for $4.99 at 720p while we can rent Blu-ray unlimited for $18.00 a month at full 1080p? If we just rent 4 Blu-ray discs a month, that would beat Apple's price hands down at higher quality. On top of that, I have to buy their Apple TV and an HDTV while with Netfllix, I can just use my laptop. Not to mention the time it takes to download 25GB of HD quality movies.

[Roggster]

for the same reason apple lovers are so stubborn and will only buy apple products :>

joking, not flame baiting....

[Blaumann]

Yes, you're supposed to embrace iTunes in HD. According to Apple, Blu-ray is just a bag of hurt. That tells me all i need to know about .... Apple.

[Mr. HiDef]

eventually is going to happen but my guess is prob not till 2010-2011 from what I heard they are on the board for blu-ray so I dont see why they wouldnt want to use the technology but stated in the above poster article the licensing is just to expensive right now

[hendra]

Originally Posted by Mr. HiDef

eventually is going to happen but my guess is prob not till 2010-2011 from what I heard they are on the board for blu-ray so I dont see why they wouldnt want to use the technology but stated in the above poster article the licensing is just to expensive right now

Why do they even need Licensing? All they need to do is putting Matshita BD drive in their laptops and ask 3rd party company like Cyberlink or Intervideo (now a subsidiary of Corel) to make the software for Apple OS. Seems to me like an excuse to push their very expensive HD download for less quality.

[dadkins]

Why indeed.
Licensing... I have to call BS on this excuse!
Acer/Fujitsu/HP/ASUS... etc, all seem to be ok with "licensing" and can seem to afford it.

There is no excuse that is valid. There is no reason that is logical.

Apple is really dropping the ball on BD.

Screw it! Just go get a new iPod or iPhone and think happy thoughts.
You can get movies from iTunes and that's good enough.

Bag of hurt - yeah.


*NOTE*: I get to hear about it everytime I see (or get a call from) my Mac fanatic neighbor.

"What are you doing?"
"I was watching ________ Blu-ray, what's up?"

#@&*!+##^&!!!!

"Sorry guy, go get a VAIO!"
"You can come by here and watch a BD on one of my VAIOs if ya want..."

[mr.hidef]

Originally Posted by Mr. HiDef

eventually is going to happen but my guess is prob not till 2010-2011 from what I heard they are on the board for blu-ray so I dont see why they wouldnt want to use the technology but stated in the above poster article the licensing is just to expensive right now

Yeah.......they must be hurting from the failure of those I-pod things.........(sarcasm)

[Zaphod]

Originally Posted by Roggster

for the same reason apple lovers are so stubborn and will only buy apple products :>

joking, not flame baiting....

Damn Apple for making the iPod! This is the only Apple product I have bought and as of right now will ever buy...

[SkillzthatKillz]

Originally Posted by Zaphod

Damn Apple for making the iPod! This is the only Apple product I have bought and as of right now will ever buy...

you just arent evolved enough to appreciate all that an apple computer offers. why cant everyone drive a hybrid and own a mac?




LOL!!!!!!!

[Marquoz]

Originally Posted by SkillzthatKillz

why cant everyone drive a hybrid and own a mac?

Because I prefer to buy a computer that isn't overly inflated in cost because it's got a picture of a half eaten fruit on it. I also don't see any point in a hybrid because the MPG savings over my current car wouldn't be worth the extra money I pay.

[xtop]

lol @ mac and hybrid. hello trendy sheep! lol

[ghebert]

Because if they did embrace blu-ray then they would be admitting that digital downloads was the wrong way to go...and much like any woman I've met, when you prove them wrong, they will deny it even to their death. Apple, in their minds, are always right and to prove them wrong would negate the universe and all in existance.

[Sonny]

Cause there "fruit cakes" that think we want to spend our hole life Down Loading HiDef movies..... I have a MacBook & iphone to...

[Alan A]

Originally Posted by hendra

Why are Apple being so stubborn of not offering their laptops with Blu-ray drives? Do they really think that we would prefer to rent their HD movies for $4.99 at 720p while we can rent Blu-ray unlimited for $18.00 a month at full 1080p? If we just rent 4 Blu-ray discs a month, that would beat Apple's price hands down at higher quality. On top of that, I have to buy their Apple TV and an HDTV while with Netfllix, I can just use my laptop. Not to mention the time it takes to download 25GB of HD quality movies.

Steve Jobs says Blu-Ray licensing fees are to high to add Blu-ray to macs

[CptGreedle]

I am sure Apple will be adding Blu-ray soon enough. Right now it is only just starting to get the national/international attention it needs for companies to take notice. It also is still too expensive for the licensing fees, and the discs are over priced.
But when these things all settle, we will see more companies embracing Blu-ray. Mac is not always quick to adopt new technologies. There are still no macs with flash card readers built in.
So for now, with the iPhone's success, we will just have to wait and see when they decide to embrace BD. I am sure it will be within a year or so.

[dadkins]

Originally Posted by Alan A

Steve Jobs says Blu-Ray licensing fees are to high to add Blu-ray to macs

No offense, but that's a REALLY weak excuse!
Acer/Fujitsu/ASUS... a whole slew of manufacturers seem to be ok with the "fees" and have machines we can buy.
Apple should have been one of the first to include BD drives.

Steve wants to milk iTunes, plain and simple.

[Bobby Henderson]

Originally Posted by CptGreedle

I am sure Apple will be adding Blu-ray soon enough. Right now it is only just starting to get the national/international attention it needs for companies to take notice. It also is still too expensive for the licensing fees, and the discs are over priced. But when these things all settle, we will see more companies embracing Blu-ray. Mac is not always quick to adopt new technologies.

That may be fine and good on the consumer end of things. But it is a flat out terrible strategy for maintaining market share in professional niches of computing. Apple has to stay ahead of the curve rather than a Johnny come lately to even keep a footing at all in a certain market niche. Waiting may translate into not even being in the game at all when they finally want to play.

The professional use side of the computing industry is what drives development overall. The new technology and new "killer applications" make their names in that area. Look at Adobe Photoshop for instance. Regardless of the popularity of Photoshop it is still an application geared toward professional use by photographers, graphic artists and digital illustrators. Photoshop's first pieces of technology and code began as custom coded software for Industrial Light & Magic.

Apple has lost key professional creative computing markets. The limitations of the "classic" MacOS combined with Apple's refusal to use OpenGL is what allowed Windows-based PCs to win the professional 3D modeling and animation market. Linux may actually be the holder of 2nd place -especially in terms of render farm use.

Apple sells a lot of computers due to the image the Mac has of being easier to use. Nothing wrong with that. But professional users only care about the task at hand. They'll go with whatever platform supports the current best application and/or gives them the best options on hardware.

There's also a certain prestige to using the same kind of hardware and software the professionals use. Apple has got a lot of mileage out of that one in terms of selling computers for creative work.

Contrary to the belief of certain parties in the computing industry, physical media (like optical movie discs) is not going away any time soon. The situation with movie downloading has far too many compromises. Market research has also shown most people still prefer to have a physical copy of the movie. That means BD disc authoring is already important and will grow with importance.

[Sirandar]

What he politely left out was that Blu-ray is still a very unreliable medium.

Can any of you really say that you are 100% confident that the New Release Blu-ray you just paid 30$ for will play right out of the box.

I play my Blu-rays on my computer and I am not even 40% sure a new release Blu-ray will play. After a movie has been out for 6 months I have resonable confidence it will play and once a Blu-ray plays on my system, it always plays. Compare this to DVD, which I am close to 100% certain.

A number of users have 3 Blu-ray players on their PC just so they can have a chance to play New Releases.

Since a MAC is computer, Apple is very wise to stay out of the Blu-ray for the PC mess until it actually works on the PC.

Blu-ray is a great technology when it works .... but it doesn't because Blu-ray has failed as a standard .... there is too many changes and variations that are released upon the consumer which adds up to Disks That Won't Play.


Even hardware players have these issues and firmware updates are required.

[Chevypower]

Good point, Game Plan was out of sync on the BDP-S350s (but not on the PS3). I called Sony and the operator blamed it on the disc (Disney), and I called Disney and the operator was sure it was a firmware issue on the player - and he was correct, it works fine now. Even DVD had the syncing issues on the older technology.

[Canada]

They want downloads so you will have to pay them.