Why are Apple being so stubborn of not embracing BD?

[dadkins]

Originally Posted by xtop

what apple needs to realize is that the 2 compliment each other. they can both live in harmony.

but the better question is. can drives be made thin enough to fit in the macbooks today? if not, i can imagine them holding off until the whole lineup can have blu-ray, instead of just the desktops

Maybe... Slot load, right?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827118027

A couple other slim drives - not slot though:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...TabStoreType=1

EDIT: Why can't Apple accommodate the drives that are available if there isn't currently a widely available line of slim drives?

[hendra]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

Hendra, not trying to be a jerk, but "Apple" is singular, so it would be "Why is Apple being so stubborn........?"

Originally Posted by hendra

Why are Apple being so stubborn of not offering their laptops with Blu-ray drives?

I just want to keep the pronoun consistent. If I am going to refer Apple as "they" in the subsequent sentences, then I would need to refer Apple as if they are plural. Otherwise, I would have to use the pronoun "it", which would seems awkward.

[Chevypower]

Originally Posted by hendra

I just want to keep the pronoun consistent. If I am going to refer Apple as "they" in the subsequent sentences, then I would need to refer Apple as if they are plural. Otherwise, I would have to use the pronoun "it", which would seems awkward.

"it's laptops" is correct

[Zaphod]

Originally Posted by Roggster

for the same reason apple lovers are so stubborn and will only buy apple products :>

joking, not flame baiting....

Damn Apple for making the iPod! This is the only Apple product I have bought and as of right now will ever buy...

[SkillzthatKillz]

Originally Posted by Zaphod

Damn Apple for making the iPod! This is the only Apple product I have bought and as of right now will ever buy...

you just arent evolved enough to appreciate all that an apple computer offers. why cant everyone drive a hybrid and own a mac?




LOL!!!!!!!

[Marquoz]

Originally Posted by SkillzthatKillz

why cant everyone drive a hybrid and own a mac?

Because I prefer to buy a computer that isn't overly inflated in cost because it's got a picture of a half eaten fruit on it. I also don't see any point in a hybrid because the MPG savings over my current car wouldn't be worth the extra money I pay.

[xtop]

lol @ mac and hybrid. hello trendy sheep! lol

[caliminius]

Originally Posted by MattVollet

I mean, I love Apple so this may be biased, but you have to understand by putting Blu Ray drives in the Mac it could, at the most, deter someone from using itunes to rent in HD. Obviously Apple would rather have someone rent or buy from their store than a blu-ray that they see no profits for.
I don't think it is Apple being stubborn as much as just business. Apple has a competing product just like MS does, that's all.

There's a big flaw in your argument though. You can't rent HD movies from a Mac, only via the AppleTV. You can only purchase HD TV shows via the Mac.

Maybe you could argue that if Apple put a Blu-Ray drive in a Mac Mini, then sales of the AppleTV would spiral into nothingness (though I'm not sure how much above nothing they are right now).

As for the inevitability of downloads, I'm still not convinced of it. On a price per GB, optical formats are still a much greater bargain. I have a 250GB hard drive in my computer and I know I could buy the equivalent capacity in blank DVD's for a lot less than I could a new hard drive. Maybe optical formats would give way to solid state flash memory devices, but regardless I still think there will be a physical format of some sort. Mass storage devices will have to drop below the price of removable storage devices before they can really go mainstream.

[daronk]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

"it's laptops" is correct

Surely not, if used instead of "their", it would have to be "its". By the way, using plural for collectivities like "the police" or a company employing thousands is correct English usage.

[Zaphod]

[LifeOfAPirate13]

Just buy an external Blu-ray drive that is suited for Mac OSX I am sure someone out there has made this happen. Their screens support 1080p now so there shouldn't be much of an argument there. It would be nice if their new line of macbooks supported this though I would have bought a new macbook pro for this reason alone as well as others, but I guess I'll have to wait a few more years before they finally realize that they should have one in their systems.

[Chevypower]

Originally Posted by daronk

Surely not, if used instead of "their", it would have to be "its". By the way, using plural for collectivities like "the police" or a company employing thousands is correct English usage.

Yes, "its" is correct... I was just seeing if anybody was awake! Just kidding :-) But a collective noun would only be plural in some instances, like a team. "The Bears are on their way to victory" (implying that each member is one Bear?). Apple is a singular collective noun. It only refers to the single body, rather than a group of individuals. So "Apple are...." is incorrect. "Apple is..." is correct, and the appropriate pronoun for a company, is "it."

[ghebert]

Because if they did embrace blu-ray then they would be admitting that digital downloads was the wrong way to go...and much like any woman I've met, when you prove them wrong, they will deny it even to their death. Apple, in their minds, are always right and to prove them wrong would negate the universe and all in existance.

[Sonny]

Cause there "fruit cakes" that think we want to spend our hole life Down Loading HiDef movies..... I have a MacBook & iphone to...

[srjj1]

the reason that I choose MS -IBM compatible over apple was because apple doesn't support Blu-ray. In NZ with a 256K modem it takes a day to download a normal 1G film - I don't want to imagine how long 5-10Gs take, anyway with $2 per gigabyte we will end up paying $25 just to rent!

[MJ_KC]

This wouldn't be a problem for me at the moment because I have 200+ DVDs and only 12 Blu-ray discs. I am more likely to have what I want to watch on DVD. This will change before long and then a computer that won't play Blu-ray will be a definite negative.

The computer screen isn't really big enough that I need the increased capability of Blu-ray. The problem will be when I only have a movie in Blu-ray format and want to be able to watch it on my PC. Right now, I can't do that. From what I can see, my PC doesn't have the processing power to handle a Blu-ray movie even if I had the drive.

When I buy my next computer, the number 1 priority will be that it has a Blu-ray drive and that the video card can connect to my 24 inch widescreen monitor using the digital connection. Right now, my video card can't do 1920x1200 via the digital cable, so the 24 inch monitor is connected using the RGB cable. My 20 inch standard format is using the digital connection at 1280x1024 so I can have stuff going on both screens at once.

Right now I have Transformers/DVD playing on the 20 inch monitor while browsing using the 24 inch. At this smaller screen size, the image is just as sharp as my Blu-ray disc playing on my 55 inch LCD Sharp Aquos HDTV and the 4.1 surround is plenty good enough for my PC.

I only have a few movies that are Blu-ray only, but as new movies are released, I will only be buying them in Blu-ray format so a computer that can play them will become very important to me.

[brettallica]

We need to quit arguing about British vs. American English and get back to arguing about things that really matter, like Macs vs. PCs!

What's funny is you could argue 'til you're blue in the face about either, because neither party will ever be right; they'll always have their opinions, though.

This is coming from a Mac/PC crossy who likes both digital downloads and Blu-ray. I've got an iPhone, I do my web design on an iBook; and I also have two PCs and an old Mac G4 Cube in my house.

I believe there are two inevitable outcomes here. One: Blu-ray drives will become available (and standard) on Macs -- and all PCs. Two: HD digital downloads will become every bit the norm as physical media. You can already see this transition taking place with the popularity of the iPod. No secret there. I definitely see the former happening sooner than that latter, though, simply because of the fact that it'll take much longer to implement the infrastructure to support HD digital downloads for everyone in America; meanwhile, physical media is as simple as picking up a new piece of hardware and plugging it in. Obviously that's over-simplifying, but conceptually, it amounts to just about that. There are parts of the country where neither consistent high-speed satellite nor standard DSL are available -- to say nothing of the bandwidth truly necessary to support an HD download, which is something along the lines of 6Mbps to be safe. Keep in mind that this is not an uncommon scenario. I live in a very "rich" and populous area that you would think would have the best Internet around, but we have squat here; the best I can get is 384 kbps - 1.5mbps. Granted, I'm usually at the higher end of that range, but I'm a far cry from being ready to rely on streaming HD content without having to worry about some major stutter/hang issues due to limited bandwidth.

It's households like these that have one true choice if they want HD via computer, and that is to go with physical media. That's just fuel for the fire for Blu-ray drives to move into homes at a quicker rate than the acceptance of downloadable HD content. Then you still have the fact that backing up the entire contents of one's computer on only a few discs is a possibility now. That's a priceless feature of Blu-ray that will be realized very soon, I believe.

Lest we forget: there are still plenty of old people out there who have no idea how to do this whole "Internet" thing.

[david2189]

im sorry but i have to say this, the mac is crap.

reason for me to say this, i have both (use the mac at work, and the pc at home) the mac is slow (the dam thing cant even keep up with my typing on excel/word,) compaitable with hardly anything (still to get an excel file to load on a mac properly) and extremely overhyped. im also missing out on a hell of a lot of programs at the moment because im on an "amazing, futureistic, ahead of its time" mac. basically everything i do on a mac takes me a quater of the time on a pc.

doesnt suprise me that the mac cant play blu rays (blu rays ahead of the macs time! LOL)

rant over!

[xtop]

Originally Posted by david2189

im sorry but i have to say this, the mac is crap.

reason for me to say this, i have both (use the mac at work, and the pc at home) the mac is slow (the dam thing cant even keep up with my typing on excel/word,) compaitable with hardly anything (still to get an excel file to load on a mac properly) and extremely overhyped. im also missing out on a hell of a lot of programs at the moment because im on an "amazing, futureistic, ahead of its time" mac. basically everything i do on a mac takes me a quater of the time on a pc.

doesnt suprise me that the mac cant play blu rays (blu rays ahead of the macs time! LOL)

rant over!

trust me..i'm the first to scream 'overhyped!' when talking mac. but as a mac/pc user myself..you must be using an old mac

[brettallica]

Originally Posted by xtop

trust me..i'm the first to scream 'overhyped!' when talking mac. but as a mac/pc user myself..you must be using an old mac

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