Can someone answer a vinyl question for me? - Blu-ray Forum

Psychonaut · 02-17-2009, 11:57 PM

Sorry if this does not belong here but I didn't see anywhere else to put it.

I've been working on my vinyl collection and have noticed on ebay that there are TONS of them from Brazil, Argentina, South Korea, and a few others. The albums in question seem to be the ones that are more rare. Are these bootleg recordings and/or lower quality? They charge a lot more for them and the shipping is borderlline ridiculous.

Johnny Vinyl · 02-18-2009, 12:12 AM

The only thing I can tell you is that I have several pressings from Korea, that I bought in Canada from a musical instrument store (I used to play guitar and took my lessons there), and they are fine recordings.

As far as eBay is concerned, I have never bought or sold anything through there and probably never will. I'm just not comfortable dealing on there, but that's a personal choice.

Are there no local stores you can avail yourself to for your vinyl needs?

John

richteer · 02-18-2009, 12:12 AM

Probably rare-ish "collectors" records, and probably of dubious quality. Unless you're an avid collector I'd suggest the more usual suspects. Save your money for 180g pressings and the like!

Big Daddy · 02-18-2009, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by John72953

As far as eBay is concerned, I have never bought or sold anything through there and probably never will. I'm just not comfortable dealing on there, but that's a personal choice.

John

I can't make any comments about LP's through Ebay, but I have bought many things from Ebay such as a projector screen, cables, speakers, my current receiver, and snake repellents (yes, we had some snakes in the garden

). All the products were brand new in original boxes and I had absolutely no problem with them.

Johnny Vinyl · 02-18-2009, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

I can't make any comments about LP's through Ebay, but I have bought many things from Ebay such as a projector screen, cables, speakers, my current receiver, and snake repellents (yes, we had some snakes in the garden

). All the products were brand new in original boxes and I had absolutely no problem with them.

I hear a lot of people have good experiences on eBay. I just can't seem to get away from the fact it's nothing but a big huge flea-market! And we all know the wheelers and dealers that abound there.

Maybe I should try it one day!

John

Psychonaut · 02-18-2009, 12:57 AM

So far I've had really good luck with vinyl on ebay. Most have actually arrived with original shrink on them when it wasn't mentioned in the listing. I just thought it odd that the only editions of say; Rush - Counterparts I have seen have been from Brazil. Aside from the high price, I was really worried that the sound quality would be sub par as well.

As for local places, there's a chain out here that deals in it but they jack up stuff like Pink Floyd to $30 even though the cover art is almost completely worn off. I've found some decent stuff in there but my Holy Grails I try to get elsewhere (The Wall, DSOTM, Court Of The Crimson King, 2112...).

Johnny Vinyl · 02-18-2009, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psychonaut

So far I've had really good luck with vinyl on ebay. Most have actually arrived with original shrink on them when it wasn't mentioned in the listing. I just thought it odd that the only editions of say; Rush - Counterparts I have seen have been from Brazil. Aside from the high price, I was really worried that the sound quality would be sub par as well.

As for local places, there's a chain out here that deals in it but they jack up stuff like Pink Floyd to $30 even though the cover art is almost completely worn off. I've found some decent stuff in there but my Holy Grails I try to get elsewhere (The Wall, DSOTM, Court Of The Crimson King, 2112...).

One of my all-time faves!

Did you try the US sites like AcousticSounds, MusicDirect, ElusiveDisc, etc.? They are solid (although their international shipping rates suck) and they package their product really well.

I've bought some vinyl from amazon UK as well.

John

naturephoto1 · 02-18-2009, 01:11 AM

I do not have my Turntable to confirm my "new" vinyl that I have purchased on eBay either from the US, Canada or from the UK. I hope to have the TT now in about a month it seems.

But, I buy from sellers with a 100% or close to 100% rating and normally purchased either sealed or used vinyl that has been inspected and reported as NM (much older half speed masters and some new heavy vinyl). From the UK I have ordered original UK pressings (some early and somewhat rare) things that are listed as NM and many that they call E+ would be considered NM. Those I normally confirm with the seller. In any case, I visually check the vinyl fairly carefully when it arrives. I have only had to send 1 LP back from the Visual inspection due to things missed by the seller on side 2. But, at least visually, I have had excellent luck so far. The same has been true buying used LPs and some new Heavy Vinyl from Better Records in California.

Rich

Jello · 02-18-2009, 05:40 AM

I have alot of old bootlegs from live concerts that are good to very poor in quality, but they are obvious. Most used to come from Japan and Germany. That's all they are...bootlegs...most are poor quality.

dobyblue · 02-18-2009, 02:30 PM

Check out Discogs a lot of times to see where the pressing came from. I have found some instances like NIN- Broken EP and Soundgarden's "Badmotorfinger" where Warner Brazil did a pressing or Atlantic Records Brazil and they're all totally legit if you can track down the catalogue number.

Obviously with eBay you want to go with a good track record. With Discogs you can find TONNES of vinyl as well and it's always listed by condition of media and sleeve and also all sellers have ratings, so you can see who is good and who isn't.

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Originally Posted by naturephoto1

I do not have my Turntable to confirm my "new" vinyl that I have purchased on eBay either from the US, Canada or from the UK.

I can tell you that you don't have to worry about Scott - you are going to LOVE that Simply Vinyl pressing of Ommadawn. I could swear I was listening to an SACD the noise floor was so incredibly quiet...and the performance is incredible, every nuance sounds so much clearer and intelligible than the CD version of Part 1 I have in the '93 box set "Elements".

The Gold Mother (James) and No Jacket Required pressings are also similar where noise floor is - almost totally noise free even in the quietest passages...and all were packed immaculately inside a cardboard mailer with addition LP-sized cardboard cutouts inside on the front and back of EACH LP.

Great seller.

Wolfy · 02-20-2009, 10:44 PM

Another good place to get new vintage vinyl is Amazon.com

Drew664 · 03-30-2009, 04:29 AM

Instead of making a new thread, I'll just hi jack this one.

My current receiver is from the S990THX 7.1 Onkyo HTiB.
Onkyo Listing

If I purchase a turn table, will this be able to play it? I'm under the impression that I will need a separate amp in order to hear any kind of detail.

richteer · 03-30-2009, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew664

Instead of making a new thread, I'll just hi jack this one.

My current receiver is from the S990THX 7.1 Onkyo HTiB.
Onkyo Listing

If I purchase a turn table, will this be able to play it? I'm under the impression that I will need a separate amp in order to hear any kind of detail.

Not very polite hijacking another's thread, but the answer to your question is yes, you'll need a separate phonostage.

Psychonaut · 04-02-2009, 02:11 AM

Hijack away! I'm going to do the same thing with my receiver later this year. Most would cringe if you knew what I was playing my vinyl on but when I was putting this system together, I went more for the vintage look rather than the sound it was producing at the time (it was a 30 year old system my father purchased in Japan).

Now I've put money into the TT and a bunch into the speakers and demand that this old receiver be replaced so I'll move my Denon up here and buy a phono amp when I upgrade.

Not exactly an audiophile's dream but hey, we have to have some guidelines to work within.

02-17-2009, 11:57 PM	#1
Psychonaut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Second left after Wal-Mart Blu-ray collection:111	Can someone answer a vinyl question for me? Sorry if this does not belong here but I didn't see anywhere else to put it. I've been working on my vinyl collection and have noticed on ebay that there are TONS of them from Brazil, Argentina, South Korea, and a few others. The albums in question seem to be the ones that are more rare. Are these bootleg recordings and/or lower quality? They charge a lot more for them and the shipping is borderlline ridiculous.

02-18-2009, 05:40 AM	#9
Jello Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Toronto Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:40	I have alot of old bootlegs from live concerts that are good to very poor in quality, but they are obvious. Most used to come from Japan and Germany. That's all they are...bootlegs...most are poor quality. Last edited by Jello; 02-18-2009 at 05:42 AM.

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02-18-2009, 12:12 AM	#2
Johnny Vinyl Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:At the crossroad of Analogue Dr & 2CH Ave Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:205 DVD collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:8	The only thing I can tell you is that I have several pressings from Korea, that I bought in Canada from a musical instrument store (I used to play guitar and took my lessons there), and they are fine recordings. As far as eBay is concerned, I have never bought or sold anything through there and probably never will. I'm just not comfortable dealing on there, but that's a personal choice. Are there no local stores you can avail yourself to for your vinyl needs? John

02-18-2009, 12:12 AM	#3
richteer Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Kelowna, BC Trading Score:1	Probably rare-ish "collectors" records, and probably of dubious quality. Unless you're an avid collector I'd suggest the more usual suspects. Save your money for 180g pressings and the like!

02-18-2009, 12:57 AM	#6
Psychonaut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Second left after Wal-Mart Blu-ray collection:111	So far I've had really good luck with vinyl on ebay. Most have actually arrived with original shrink on them when it wasn't mentioned in the listing. I just thought it odd that the only editions of say; Rush - Counterparts I have seen have been from Brazil. Aside from the high price, I was really worried that the sound quality would be sub par as well. As for local places, there's a chain out here that deals in it but they jack up stuff like Pink Floyd to $30 even though the cover art is almost completely worn off. I've found some decent stuff in there but my Holy Grails I try to get elsewhere (The Wall, DSOTM, Court Of The Crimson King, 2112...).

02-18-2009, 01:11 AM	#8
naturephoto1 Blu-ray Ninja Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Breinigsville, PA Home Theater Gallery:260 4K collection:21 Blu-ray collection:263	I do not have my Turntable to confirm my "new" vinyl that I have purchased on eBay either from the US, Canada or from the UK. I hope to have the TT now in about a month it seems. But, I buy from sellers with a 100% or close to 100% rating and normally purchased either sealed or used vinyl that has been inspected and reported as NM (much older half speed masters and some new heavy vinyl). From the UK I have ordered original UK pressings (some early and somewhat rare) things that are listed as NM and many that they call E+ would be considered NM. Those I normally confirm with the seller. In any case, I visually check the vinyl fairly carefully when it arrives. I have only had to send 1 LP back from the Visual inspection due to things missed by the seller on side 2. But, at least visually, I have had excellent luck so far. The same has been true buying used LPs and some new Heavy Vinyl from Better Records in California. Rich

02-20-2009, 10:44 PM	#11
Wolfy Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Audio Nirvana	Another good place to get new vintage vinyl is Amazon.com

03-30-2009, 04:29 AM	#12
Drew664 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:South Dakota Home Theater Gallery:28 Blu-ray collection:68	Instead of making a new thread, I'll just hi jack this one. My current receiver is from the S990THX 7.1 Onkyo HTiB. Onkyo Listing If I purchase a turn table, will this be able to play it? I'm under the impression that I will need a separate amp in order to hear any kind of detail.

04-02-2009, 02:11 AM	#14
Psychonaut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Second left after Wal-Mart Blu-ray collection:111	Hijack away! I'm going to do the same thing with my receiver later this year. Most would cringe if you knew what I was playing my vinyl on but when I was putting this system together, I went more for the vintage look rather than the sound it was producing at the time (it was a 30 year old system my father purchased in Japan). Now I've put money into the TT and a bunch into the speakers and demand that this old receiver be replaced so I'll move my Denon up here and buy a phono amp when I upgrade. Not exactly an audiophile's dream but hey, we have to have some guidelines to work within.

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