Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[crissrudd4554]

I have no problem with Harmy's or TeamNegative's versions because theyre simply preserving something for the viewing public until HOPEFULLY an official restoration occurs someday. This is not their way to deter the public from buying the official thing. Harmy himself even stresses that those who check out his versions should already own the official BDs. Sure those who created those versions and those who see it may be walking a tight rope legal wise but its not something thats meant to pull people away from what's available officially.

[MisterFantastic]

Looks like Team Negative1 is banned from OriginalTrilogy.com for scanning a print that was procured through unethical means, and now they've announced that they've disbanded.

[Geoff D]

Damn, if someone gets excommunicated by OT.com then they must be truly hardcore!

[crissrudd4554]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Damn, if someone gets excommunicated by OT.com then they must be truly hardcore!

You ain't kidding. That's the first I've heard of something like that relating to that site.

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by MisterFantastic

Looks like Team Negative1 is banned from OriginalTrilogy.com for scanning a print that was procured through unethical means, and now they've announced that they've disbanded.

So a pirate site banned some pirates for being unethical in their piracy. Not sure how to score that.

[Arawn]

Originally Posted by dubious

Do half the people in this thread even know who this guy on the left is?

[RickDee]

Originally Posted by MisterFantastic

Looks like Team Negative1 is banned from OriginalTrilogy.com for scanning a print that was procured through unethical means, and now they've announced that they've disbanded.

All for show...

[MisterFantastic]

Originally Posted by Lyle_JP

So a pirate site banned some pirates for being unethical in their piracy. Not sure how to score that.

"Fan restoration"

[Riddler95]

Originally Posted by SethRex

I think I'll just stick to the Blu-Rays of the OT. If and when the UOT comes out, I will more than likely pick them up, but for now I'll stick to how they are legally meant to be seen.

Originally Posted by Monty Cora

I've bought the unaltered trilogy on VHS (more than once), laserdisc, and DVD...for me that's more than enough reason to feel morally justified in watching a fan-made scan of the 35mm film.

And when they finally release it for sale officially, I'll buy it again. :-)

I own four Home Video releases of The Star Wars Trilogy.

1. My old VHS Copies of the Original Versions and they still play perfectly.

2. The LaserDisc Set of the 1997 Special Edition Versions.

3. The 2-Disc DVD Editions from 2006 that have the 2004 Special Editions & the Original Versions. I've also got the fourth Disc with the extras from the 2004 DVD Boxset.

4. The Blu-Ray + DVD Combo Pack from 2013.

If 20th Century Fox & Disney end up negotiating a reasonable deal and if they go ahead and restore the Original Versions and release them on Blu-Ray with in beautiful HD presentations I'll totally buy that release the day it comes out and it will most likely be the last time I buy The Star Wars Trilogy on Home Video.

I'll always prefer the Original Versions but I actually wouldn't mind if the 1997 Special Edition Versions are also released on Blu-Ray. They were never re-released again after 2000 and they don't have any of the Visual Errors that the 2004 & 2011 Special Edition Versions had.

Hopefully this year I'll score an AC-3 Demodulator for a great deal and I'll finally be able to watch my LaserDiscs of the 1997 Special Edition Versions with their 5.1 Dolby Digital Audio Tracks.

[iaragorn1]

Originally Posted by Riddler95

I own four Home Video releases of The Star Wars Trilogy.

1. My old VHS Copies of the Original Versions and they still play perfectly.

2. The LaserDisc Set of the 1997 Special Edition Versions.

3. The 2-Disc DVD Editions from 2006 that have the 2004 Special Editions & the Original Versions. I've also got the fourth Disc with the extras from the 2004 DVD Boxset.

4. The Blu-Ray + DVD Combo Pack from 2013.

If 20th Century Fox & Disney end up negotiating a reasonable deal and if they go ahead and restore the Original Versions and release them on Blu-Ray with in beautiful HD presentations I'll totally buy that release the day it comes out and it will most likely be the last time I buy The Star Wars Trilogy on Home Video.

I'll always prefer the Original Versions but I actually wouldn't mind if the 1997 Special Edition Versions are also released on Blu-Ray. They were never re-released again after 2000 and they don't have any of the Visual Errors that the 2004 & 2011 Special Edition Versions had.

Hopefully this year I'll score an AC-3 Demodulator for a great deal and I'll finally be able to watch my LaserDiscs of the 1997 Special Edition Versions with their 5.1 Dolby Digital Audio Tracks.

I have bought all of that as well and would like to have both the Original and Special Editions at their best on Blu-ray or, since the future is now, 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray.

I don't have a laser disk player right now, but I have my old mid '90s Harmon Kardon receiver with AC3 decoder just in case....

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by PrestigeWorldwide

I'd like to check that one out. Harmy also recently finished a scan of a 35mm print of Return of the Jedi. Watched it today and it's awesome. Original music at Jabba's Palace, no crappy CGI characters, no stupid CGI beak coming out of the pit of Carkoon, no Hayden, Sebastian Shaw with eyebrows when Vader's helmet comes off, no "Nooooooo", yub nub, etc.

I love Harmy he is a cool guy, but you are over egging his involvement in the 35mm scans

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by RickDee

All for show...

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Damn, if someone gets excommunicated by OT.com then they must be truly hardcore!

Eh..

[happydood]

Originally Posted by dubious

Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?

Meanwhile, back in reality, how they are actually meant to be seen.

[Show spoiler]

Do half the people in this thread even know who this guy on the left is?

No. You're the single hold-out. The torch-carrier. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

[Riddler95]

Originally Posted by iaragorn1

I have bought all of that as well and would like to have both the Original and Special Editions at their best on Blu-ray or, since the future is now, 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray.

I don't have a laser disk player right now, but I have my old mid '90s Harmon Kardon receiver with AC3 decoder just in case....

Lucasfilm has gotta have suitable Film Prints of the 1997 Special Edition Versions. I think they should simply scan them in 4K, clean them up, touch up the colours, and include the 1997 5.1 Mixes.

I have three Pioneer LaserDisc Players and the best out of the three is my DVL-909. But I hope that I'll score a great deal on a fully functional CLD-D704 with the remote control this year.

[MisterFantastic]

Hell, at this point, the Silver Screen edition would make a passable BD, and obviously Disney would have better sources than that, even if Lucas really did cut the negative to ribbons like he said he did.

[RickDee]

Guys Lucas is lying. There are plenty of sources out there of the UOT for Disney to release BDs. He did not cut into the only print for his SE.

[Riddler95]

Originally Posted by RickDee

Guys Lucas is lying. There are plenty of sources out there of the UOT for Disney to release BDs. He did no cut into the only print for his SE.

True.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by dubious

It's been a good year for Star Wars purist fans. All of the original trilogy is now available from scanned 35mm theatrical prints. Maybe the force is gaining momentum, and forcing Disney to an inevitable conclusion, they have to respond with an official restoration.

While it surely helps, and maybe even speeds up the process, I personally doubt Disney needed the motivation. I believe that only George Lucas, in all his eccentric glory, is the only person alive who doesn't believe the original versions of Star Wars should be preserved, restored, and released to the public.

Whether or not it will be a colossal seller is debatable, but there is every reason to release it and really zero reasons not to:
1) The obvious: The importance and cultural significance of the films.
2) The films need restoration anyway, seeing as the "Complete Saga" editions Lucas churned out are stuck in old 2K scans that were created for a DVD release in 2004.
3) It'll make money, especially if Disney releases it in some kind of uber box set, packed with special features and possibly various versions of all the films.

It's always been a matter of when and not if since Disney took over.

[D00mM4r1n3]

The library of congress has archives of the original 1977 Star Wars, and 1980 Empire Strikes Back. There are also private collectors with 35MM prints, it can easily be restored, it just takes the copyright holders to get their heads out of their asses.

Star Wars is there thanks to it being submitted for copyright, and Empire is there thanks to the National Film Registry actually being provided a print when it was inducted a few years back.

There have also been private screenings of original prints from private collectors in the past, so they are no doubt out there in the wild as well.

[happydood]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

While it surely helps, and maybe even speeds up the process, I personally doubt Disney needed the motivation. I believe that only George Lucas, in all his eccentric glory, is the only person alive who doesn't believe the original versions of Star Wars should be preserved, restored, and released to the public.

Whether or not it will be a colossal seller is debatable, but there is every reason to release it and really zero reasons not to:
1) The obvious: The importance and cultural significance of the films.
2) The films need restoration anyway, seeing as the "Complete Saga" editions Lucas churned out are stuck in old 2K scans that were created for a DVD release in 2004.
3) It'll make money, especially if Disney releases it in some kind of uber box set, packed with special features and possibly various versions of all the films.

It's always been a matter of when and not if since Disney took over.

Agreed. I will happily buy an official release (as I happily sought an unofficial release.)

I'll also feel a pang of sadness as to the misguided artist Lucas has become. As opposed to the 'Let's hang him!" mentality that gets loosely spouted around here by the vocal minority/pseudo-intelligentsia.