Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Mighty Max]

Originally Posted by Chiyo_chichi

Maybe he meant the Greedo family? There are like 4 Greedos in this scene:

Jabba The Hutt - A New Hope (1997 Special Edition) - YouTube

Rodians!
Not Greedos
Greedo is a name!

[Mighty Max]

Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith are great novels though!
Return of the Jedi has well, I won't spoil Obi-Wan's speach...
But ANH, TESB and RotJ are pretty much just the scripts adapted for novel form.
Only AotC and RotS are the ones that feel like real novels.
The Phantom Menace adds in one or two scenes.
I remember it gives Anakin a flash into the future while he is dreaming, but I can't remember what else it added.

[A Sith Lord?]

Originally Posted by Mighty Max

Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith are great novels though!
Return of the Jedi has well, I won't spoil Obi-Wan's speach...
But ANH, TESB and RotJ are pretty much just the scripts adapted for novel form.
Only AotC and RotS are the ones that feel like real novels.
The Phantom Menace adds in one or two scenes.
I remember it gives Anakin a flash into the future while he is dreaming, but I can't remember what else it added.

There was more depth added to Qui-Gon's character for sure.

[Mighty Max]

Originally Posted by MasturB

There was more depth added to Qui-Gon's character for sure.

That usually happens cause there isn't a way to get thoughts or feelings out normally in a movie.
Inner monologues aren't really a thing in movies and never have been a part of Star Wars.

[Arawn]

Originally Posted by Mighty Max

I remember it gives Anakin a flash into the future while he is dreaming, but I can't remember what else it added.

It starts the story with an Anakin scene unlike the film. It's got a scene where he meets an old spacer who had done some classified job transporting Jedi. There's this whole deal where Anakin & C3PO find an injured Tusken Raider, and then he goes to sleep and dreams about Sandpeople, and when he wakes up it's like in the dream and they're surrounded by the Sandpeople. At one point the book also goes into the history of the Sith a bit ( though it makes their origin more recent than the way it was in the 1990s EU ) and name-drops Darth Bane.

[Riddler95]

Originally Posted by Class316

That's why I said "basically" the same. I would hope it's better than either one since one is DVD and one is laserdisc. But they are based from the same masters.

As for Yoda puppet on phantom manace, my mistake. However I believe there is no DVD that is the theatrical edition as other changes were made. So to correct myself nothing newer than laserdisc has the exact theatrical edition.

Correct. The transfers on the 2006 Letterboxed DVDs of the Original Versions of the Original Trilogy were sourced from the 1993 Video Masters created for The Definitive Collection LaserDisc set and the 1995 THX Mastered "Faces" Editions.

The Theatrical Cut of The Phantom Menace has never been released on DVD and Blu-Ray. So yes, the Japanese LaserDisc to this day still provides the best presentation of the Theatrical Cut officially.

[bobbyh64]

What are the differences between the theatrical and DVD versions of The Phantom Menace?

[Nailwraps]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

What are the differences between the theatrical and DVD versions of The Phantom Menace?

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=563

[A Sith Lord?]

Originally Posted by Mighty Max

That usually happens cause there isn't a way to get thoughts or feelings out normally in a movie.
Inner monologues aren't really a thing in movies and never have been a part of Star Wars.

In ESB I view Yoda as a vessel for Luke to have inner dialogue within himself. Yoda is there but he's only talking to Luke and getting Luke to learn about himself and question his mind less about learning to be a Jedi.

The conversation dialogue is more between Ben and Luke.

[Jakdonark]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Maybe the unfortunate case Lucas didn't make Rogue One because we would see CGI Tarkin evolve over time (joking).

Lucas would have used a puppet version for the theatrical release, but after fan backlash he would have replaced it with a Cgi version for home video and every subsequent theatrical rerelease.

[Alan_Grant]

Funny joke, but he's actually used facial prosthetics, and no CGI. So, joke sucks

[Alan_Grant]

Originally Posted by Mighty Max

I remember it gives Anakin a flash into the future while he is dreaming, but I can't remember what else it added.

The opening chapter details Anakin racing Sebulba, as described in the movie, and him getting Ruby Bliels with a Pilot, making him more determined than ever to leave Tattooine. I just started reading TPM, so it's fresh in my mind.

[Mighty Max]

Originally Posted by Alan_Grant

The opening chapter details Anakin racing Sebulba, as described in the movie, and him getting Ruby Bliels with a Pilot, making him more determined than ever to leave Tattooine. I just started reading TPM, so it's fresh in my mind.

Cool. I last read it back in 1999

[A Sith Lord?]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

I agree MasturB. I had grown up watching the unaltered OT thinking the Jedi were really cool and to be admired. But now I see them as basically a dogmatic religious cult with holier than thou attitudes. I also used to think Yoda was some really wise guru that had a lot of insight. But actually Luke is wiser. He doesn't blindly follow dogmatic rules and he embraces his emotions instead of pushing them away.

I don't know if I'd necessarily say he embraced them but used them to his advantage.

Remember in ROTJ when Vader is looking for Luke under the balcony and starts talking about how Luke's thoughts betrayed him. We see Luke with his eyes closed take a huge sigh like he's unsure of whether to get angry. It's only when Vader says sisterrrrr. If you will not turn to the darkside then perhaps she will! Think about Luke's thoughts at that moment. Leia was a more pure person and as Luke said to her "you've always been strong". It's when Luke is scared of the thought of someone so pure and strong giving in to the darkside that he sacrifices himself to the darkside to protect his friends. He then yells in anger and starts unleashing a barrage on Vader. When he finally disarms Vader he sees Vader without a hand and realizes he's done enough and gone too far. At that moment he'd become the monster he vowed to defeat. Paralleling what Obi-Wan said to Anakin ROTS. You were supposed to destroy the Sith not join them. The Emperor's arrogance comes into play. Luke had been extending his hand to Vader all this time. He sensed the conflict in Vader. He took a gamble that Vader would save him. Whether he knew or the Force willed it, the job got done.

[TheHutt]

Originally Posted by Nailwraps

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=563

One difference is not accounted for though. In the DVD version, a bridge was added to the right of the Naboo palace in this shot.

Japan LD: http://i.imgur.com/pGda7Jd.jpg
DVD: http://i.imgur.com/9ydvomM.jpg

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by TheHutt

One difference is not accounted for though. In the DVD version, a bridge was added to the right of the Naboo palace in this shot.

Japan LD: http://i.imgur.com/pGda7Jd.jpg
DVD: http://i.imgur.com/9ydvomM.jpg

That alteration introduced a goof because you see that part of the palace during Qui-Gon's funeral and the bridge isn't there.

[ElvisForever]

Originally Posted by MasturB

I don't know if I'd necessarily say he embraced them but used them to his advantage.

Remember in ROTJ when Vader is looking for Luke under the balcony and starts talking about how Luke's thoughts betrayed him. We see Luke with his eyes closed take a huge sigh like he's unsure of whether to get angry. It's only when Vader says sisterrrrr. If you will not turn to the darkside then perhaps she will! Think about Luke's thoughts at that moment. Leia was a more pure person and as Luke said to her "you've always been strong". It's when Luke is scared of the thought of someone so pure and strong giving in to the darkside that he sacrifices himself to the darkside to protect his friends. He then yells in anger and starts unleashing a barrage on Vader. When he finally disarms Vader he sees Vader without a hand and realizes he's done enough and gone too far. At that moment he'd become the monster he vowed to defeat. Paralleling what Obi-Wan said to Anakin ROTS. You were supposed to destroy the Sith not join them. The Emperor's arrogance comes into play. Luke had been extending his hand to Vader all this time. He sensed the conflict in Vader. He took a gamble that Vader would save him. Whether he knew or the Force willed it, the job got done.

I too find this to be an emotional scene that calls back on the brilliance of the well acted part of ROTS.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

That alteration introduced a goof because you see that part of the palace during Qui-Gon's funeral and the bridge isn't there.

Could have been destroyed in the battle outside the palace/during occupation.

[Panama Jack]

Gotta say, I've really enjoyed the great discussion and insights shared here the last few days. So much better than the usual incessant ragging on the prequels and pining for the OUT. Thanks all!

[syndragore]

I see a lot of copies of this "brand new" on ebay for $40 or less, are those bootlegs?