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Old 12-09-2006, 01:35 PM   #21
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We watched MI3 on BD, then he put in pirates curse of the black pearl on dvd for a few minutes and his dvd player was hooked up via hdmi also, there was no difference, sureley not a 1,000 dollar difference. Gosh I'm kinda jaded towards blu-ray now.

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Old 12-09-2006, 03:48 PM   #22
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Nah, I don't think I would give up the Ruby for the Pearl even though the bulb is cheaper and it has 1080/24p inputs on the HDMI port.
That's fair. I don't think I would either.
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Old 12-09-2006, 05:56 PM   #23
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We watched MI3 on BD, then he put in pirates curse of the black pearl on dvd for a few minutes and his dvd player was hooked up via hdmi also, there was no difference, sureley not a 1,000 dollar difference. Gosh I'm kinda jaded towards blu-ray now.
I have both Panasonic and Sony Blu-Ray players. Im returning the Panasonic.

Ive compared them side by side with the same few BluRay and Standard movies and here is what i found. The Panasonic is nice and its a very close call, but the Sony has better definition and upscales std DVDs much much better. Motion seems more fluid with the Sony as well.

Sony does not play CDs, but i dont care b/c i have an audio setup that i would much rather listen to anyway, this is just for films. The panasonic is much lower in build quality, Sony wins here by 10 fold. Much nicer build, heavier, silent operation (Panny sounds like a pc disk drive), nicer remote, menus, looks and such. Im completely unbiased as i was looking forward to the Panasonic, but ending up with the Sony. Plus its a few hundred cheaper which doesnt hurt. After spending a week with both playing movies every night and comparing same scenes between them i am returning the Panasonic.

For reference I have a Panasonic TX-50PX60U Plasma TV and use RAM Electronics HDMI cables (pretty sweet performance, might want to check them out)
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Old 12-09-2006, 06:05 PM   #24
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The Sony looks really nice...and is built a bit stouter than the other released BD players....but its no were near as nice as there original dvd players for build quality.
The Philps loads faster...and plays the movie quicker....except for Speed
The Sonys resume movie feature leaves something to be desired...and will not work if you eject the disc or shut the player off.

The Sony sounds noticibly better than the Philips via analog PCM audio and the P/Q is sometimes better on close ups....but I think backgrounds look slightly sharper on the Philips player.
This is comparing on a 110 " screen.

I would rate the overall P/Q as even....although they look different enough that my 14 year old can instantly see the difference.

The audio via analog at least....is clearly fuller and richer on the Sony.
And the playability including speed and the resume function are better on the Philips.

Functionality...Philips
P/Q... overall even but yet different.
A/Q....Sony
Looks...Sony by a mile.
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Old 12-09-2006, 11:32 PM   #25
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Forgot to mention that my wife said that the player she picked up from Best Buy was the last one and they were about to place it on display but we got it first. They sold out quickly their first batch of Sony players.
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Old 12-10-2006, 08:28 AM   #26
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One hell of a quick look IMO...A full review will appear on UAV at some point, before or after CES

Sony BDP-S1 Blu-ray Disc Player: Short Take
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But whatever the final verdict, there is no question that the BDP-S1 is an outstanding, and already bordering on being declared a reference quality performer with Blu-ray and DVD video.
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Old 12-10-2006, 02:41 PM   #27
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^^Wow. The glowing word and shock and awe is rolling in, just as was expected.

1080p/24 and 480i over HDMI are some features as well on that machine.

Shock and awe!
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Old 12-10-2006, 07:25 PM   #28
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One hell of a quick look IMO...A full review will appear on UAV at some point, before or after CES

Sony BDP-S1 Blu-ray Disc Player: Short Take
As I've mentioned before, I originally purchased the BDP-S1, but got the Panny delivered at the same price from Tweeter.

This week, they're supposed to get the Sonys in and I have to make a decision -- keep the Panasonic or get the Sony.

I've looked at the Sony in action at Best Buy and Circuit City. I've read the reviews and it seems to have essentially the same PQ as the Panny.
  • Ergonomically it's better
  • It is more attractive
  • The build quality is more solid
  • The remote is nicer
  • The onscreen menus are nicer
  • It has remote-eject
  • It doesn't have the stupid flip-down front panel

As long as it's not a step down in PQ that's all I care about. I couldn't care less about audio format support (I'd have to upgrade my receiver and speakers to take advantage of 7.1 DTS/DD lossless).

It would be nice if it had CD/SACD playback, but my Denon still takes care of that and I'll be keeping it a while longer.

I will miss the power-off with resume function on the Panny, which the Sony doesn't have. (I wonder if they can fix that with a future firmware update?)

Anyway, this for sure won't be my last BD player. I'm sure that it will last me until G2 or G3.
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Old 12-11-2006, 01:51 AM   #29
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Looks like this player is a dud.

We were watching Superman Returns (crappy looking video I might add) and 28 minutes in we lost video but the audio kept playing. Rebooted, unplugged restarted...nothing but audio. This was through the HDMI to a DVI port on the Ruby. Oh well, back to the store it goes. Not going to mess with it any longer. I wish the Pioneer would get here and if it's not all it might cracked up to be, I will look into getting another PS3 or something... Don't know.
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:29 AM   #30
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http://www.hdguru.com/

Crap. Kinda of a let down. I was hoping that the pioneer would be faster and set itself apart from the Sony. And with the problems I have had with the Sony (at least the one I have). One of the cheaper units or another PS3 are sounding alot better right now.
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:40 AM   #31
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No problems here so far...

I've been watching DVD's on it and its been great. The upscaling is really good on my 40" XBR2.

Super pleased.
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Old 12-11-2006, 11:27 PM   #32
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I bought a Monster HDMI Cable at Best Buy ($150). The guy showed me a few cables. he said and showed me how some don't do 1080p. Only one cable Monster makes does 1080p. My question is, is this true? Aren't all HDMI cables he same and can do 1080p?
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:13 AM   #33
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Don't waste your money on a monster HDMI cable at 150 bucks. MAJOR rip off.

I am pumping a 1080p signal over a 35ft cable run with no issues. I paid 45 bucks for that 35ft cable via monoprice. Excellent quality cables and CHEAP. I just got in 4 HDMI cables for some stuff I will be adding. 2 6ft cables, 1 10ft cable and 1 3ft all for about 25 bucks with shipping. Quick shipping and the prices are EXCELLENT.
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:39 AM   #34
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hehe, not to brag at all, but my brothers GF just got a job with monster cables doing a lot of work with their marketing and promotion. anyway, she already let me know that she can get me any monster product at a minimum of 70% off
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:53 PM   #35
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OK...I just hooked up my BDP-S1 and its beautiful. Only watched 1 movie so far, Ultraviolet, which looked great. I know this was a digital to digital transfer, but its great. I also picked up Aeon Flux, but most of the reviews I've read (after I bought it) say that the HD DVD version was cleaner and sharper, so I'll exchange that when I pick up my HD-XA2 when that comes out. I'll keep updating on my Sony as soon as I watch more flicks.......
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hehe, not to brag at all, but my brothers GF just got a job with monster cables doing a lot of work with their marketing and promotion. anyway, she already let me know that she can get me any monster product at a minimum of 70% off
It's nice to have a heavy discount on Monster products, isn't it. All of my cables are Monster, but if I didn't get a huge discount on them I would think twice about buying them.
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Old 12-13-2006, 12:36 AM   #37
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OK...I just hooked up my BDP-S1 and its beautiful. Only watched 1 movie so far, Ultraviolet, which looked great. I know this was a digital to digital transfer, but its great. I also picked up Aeon Flux, but most of the reviews I've read (after I bought it) say that the HD DVD version was cleaner and sharper, so I'll exchange that when I pick up my HD-XA2 when that comes out. I'll keep updating on my Sony as soon as I watch more flicks.......
The BD version of Aeon Flux is perfectly fine, in fact one of the best looking BDs that I own. I highly doubt you would notice a difference in the two. Now crack that baby open and enjoy!
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. I also picked up Aeon Flux, but most of the reviews I've read (after I bought it) say that the HD DVD version was cleaner and sharper, so I'll exchange that when I pick up my HD-XA2 when that comes out. I'll keep updating on my Sony as soon as I watch more flicks.......
From someone who owns both formats, unless you ABSOLUTELY LOVE UNIVERSAL, or are just crazy enthusiast (like me) save your $1000 on the XA2 and just put it toward something else. It's just not worth having two formats if you can live without 1 studio.

And don't buy into the mpeg2 inferior FUD from the reviewer, the AEONFLUX BD looks fab, as does the HDDVD. (I own the HDDVD, a friend the BD).

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It's nice to have a heavy discount on Monster products, isn't it. All of my cables are Monster, but if I didn't get a huge discount on them I would think twice about buying them.
Monster Cable is the best quality cable of the lower quality cables, right? LOL
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Monster Cable is the best quality cable of the lower quality cables, right? LOL
haha, right

i normally would even consider monster because of the price. i have a lot of homemade runs and the like. but if i can get monster at what the rest of the world calls normal prices, ill take it
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