Golden Age 3-D Features

[jtchance]

Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

We work with 35mm film if it's a title that we own but when we are a work-for-hire, as on the Paramount titles, the elements are scanned at their chosen facility in LA and we get the raw scans delivered on a hard drive.

The (temporary - I hope) loss of involvement on I THE JURY is especially frustrating as I have been diligently working on making that happen since December 2011.

I have a long backstory with saving the 3-D version. I found and recombined the only surviving dual-35mm left/right prints around 1991. On July 27, 1999, I presented the UK premiere in 3-D with Mickey Spillane it attendance.

There's a picture with him and I tell the story on this page of our website: http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/home/hi...of-the-archive

I got THIS close to getting it done; the restoration agreement from the rights holder was with our lawyer waiting to be executed and I got their approval to make the public announcement at MoMA on September 2. The major Archive that entered the picture out of the blue contacted me on September 5 and then everything changed.

It's a l - o - n - g story...

My goal was to have it done and out this year on 3-D Blu-ray for Mickey Spillane's centennial. Now? I don't know what's going to happen.

Sigh.

You have the patience of Job Bob. We all applaud your efforts on our behalf. Eagerly anticipating THE MAZE, SANGAREE & JIVARO in the interim.

[Robert Furmanek]

Thank you, I don't give up easily!

Luckily, our victories with getting vintage 3-D onto Blu-ray have far outweighed our disappointments.

And it's comforting that the relatively few failures (Money from Home) have not been our fault. There's only so much you can do when individuals that lack vision and have no interest in the historic record are in the drivers seat.

[T. Warren Scollan]

Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

We work with 35mm film if it's a title that we own but when we are a work-for-hire, as on the Paramount titles, the elements are scanned at their chosen facility in LA and we get the raw scans delivered on a hard drive.

The (temporary - I hope) loss of involvement on I THE JURY is especially frustrating as I have been diligently working on making that happen since December 2011.

I have a long backstory with saving the 3-D version. I found and recombined the only surviving dual-35mm left/right prints around 1991. On July 27, 1999, I presented the UK premiere in 3-D with Mickey Spillane it attendance.

There's a picture with him and I tell the story on this page of our website: http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/home/hi...of-the-archive

I got THIS close to getting it done; the restoration agreement from the rights holder was with our lawyer waiting to be executed and I got their approval to make the public announcement at MoMA on September 2. The major Archive that entered the picture out of the blue contacted me on September 5 and then everything changed.

It's a l - o - n - g story...

My goal was to have it done and out this year on 3-D Blu-ray for Mickey Spillane's centennial. Now? I don't know what's going to happen.

Sigh.

The "Major Archive"....... I know you can't name them, but perhaps you could give us an idea of their reputation for caring more about film vs. caring about money and giving a darn about quality and correctness to the original. Maybe give us an inkling as to whether it might still happen, even if it's not by 3dFA.

[Interdimensional]

(I had a few paragraphs of my own irresponsible speculation on what may or may not be the situation here, but looks like I had it all wrong!)

It may not be such a good idea to comment publicly too much further on the parties involved if there is still a chance they can collaborate with 3DFA on the title. Maybe there is something I don't understand here, but it is hard to comprehend the logic to their plan in this day and age. I have to assume they have the best of intentions so I'll put my torch and pitchfork to one side and hold off denouncing them for the time being.

An ideal outcome would be to involve the 3DFA to handle it as a digital restoration, with the unnamed archive perhaps facilitating additional expenses like 4k and wet-gate scans, and digital output to 35mm archival prints (if that is still a thing).

[BleedOrange11]

So does this Archive own the US rights to the picture, and therefore gets to control what happens to the 35mm elements? That overrides the UK rights holder?

I'm glad they want to restore the elements. Hopefully, they'll decide to create a 3D scan with the 3-D Archive in the near future, so we can all enjoy the movie on Blu-ray 3D.

[Robert Furmanek]

No, all the rights are held by the copyright holder in the UK.

As I first said, it's not a locked door so hopefully something will happen down the road. But don't look for it anytime soon.

[infiniteCR]

Well that’s good to hear at least. Not many want to buy a movie made in 3D and watch it in 2D.

[T. Warren Scollan]

My thanks to all of you for your thumbs up on my "comradery" post on this thread. (#927)

[cinerama]

Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

And a few surprises...

I hope one of the surprises is the release of The Bubble roadshow!

[moviebear1]

Originally Posted by cinerama

I hope one of the surprises is the release of The Bubble roadshow!

I have always wanted to see the uncut vesion.

[Robert Furmanek]

The 21 minutes really do add to the film and give the character's more depth.

And there is one dynamite off-screen 3-D shot that was cut!

[gazadams]

Really wanted to see I, the Jury

[Ky-Fi]

Bummed about the western, but still, The Maze, Sangaree and Jivaro coming this year should be pretty great! I've never seen any of them, but the diverse settings/genres of these three have me pretty excited to see each in restored 3D.

[Robert Furmanek]

Originally Posted by gazadams

Really wanted to see I, the Jury

Believe me, nobody is more frustrated than I am with this recent development. I wanted to get this onto 3-D Blu-ray in 2018 for Mickey Spillane's centennial.

But I remain cautiously optimistic that once they are finished with their photo-chemical work, the copyright holder will reach out and allow us to do the digital 3-D restoration that we had initially proposed in December 2011. We want this film available worldwide so that everyone can experience John Alton's outstanding stereoscopic compositions.

[Richard--W]

Originally Posted by T. Warren Scollan

You know, every time I go to the "Golden Age" thread, I see posts and thumbs up from the same small group repeatedly. It's never boring but instead gives me a sense of special comradery to us all. I really feel that we are a special group. I'd list us here, but I'm bound to probably miss somebody and insult them. You all know who you are!

I'm convinced that, if it were not for Bob Furmanek's efforts, no classic 3-D films would survive to restore and release on home video. And if it were not for the 3-D Film Archive's three Expo's at the Egyptian Theater in Hollywood, the industry would not have been alerted to the artistic value of the films and the commercial value of the technology. The Expos were the talk of the home-video divisions in town. Yes, the 3-D technology has always been there, but the Expos lit a fire under the decision-makers, some of whom attended and connected the dots toward bluray releases.

I do wish the 3-D Film Archive would undertake preserving another legit film for bluray release instead of the nudie-cutie double-feature that Bob refers to, which I think is a mistake for reasons I won't go into here.





I don't have a poster for the third one but the World 3-D Film Expos exerted an influence.

... plus Ray Bradbury told me the Expo was the most fun he had in years. He really loved 3-D movies.

[cinerama]

Originally Posted by Richard--W

I do wish the 3-D Film Archive would undertake preserving another legit film for bluray release instead of the nudie-cutie double-feature that Bob refers to, which I think is a mistake for reasons I won't go into here.

I don't care what the titles are. If the 3D Film Archive is releasing it, I know I getting the best 3D and I'm buying it.

[Robert Furmanek]

I do wish the 3-D Film Archive would undertake preserving another legit film for bluray release instead of the nudie-cutie double-feature that Bob refers to, which I think is a mistake for reasons I won't go into here.

Well, as I'm sure you know, there are times when you have to accept a paycheck in order to pay the bills. And it's not like Warner Bros or Sony are beating down our door.

That being said, the nudie-cutie double-feature has historic value: ADAM AND SIX EVES was the last use of the venerable Natural Vision rig and is quite well photographed. BELLBOY AND THE PLAYGIRLS has 3-D footage written and directed by Francis Ford Coppola.

[infiniteCR]

Originally Posted by Ky-Fi

Bummed about the western, but still, The Maze, Sangaree and Jivaro coming this year should be pretty great! I've never seen any of them, but the diverse settings/genres of these three have me pretty excited to see each in restored 3D.

Exactly. I am excited to get all three of these

[deltatauhobbit]

Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

Well, as I'm sure you know, there are times when you have to accept a paycheck in order to pay the bills. And it's not like Warner Bros or Sony are beating down our door.

That being said, the nudie-cutie double-feature has historic value: ADAM AND SIX EVES was the last use of the venerable Natural Vision rig and is quite well photographed. BELLBOY AND THE PLAYGIRLS has 3-D footage written and directed by Francis Ford Coppola.

I'm game for the nudie-cutie, I picked up The Stewardesses after all and that was a dreadful film haha.

[Richard--W]

I couldn't care less about The Stewardesses. I have plenty of first-rate 3-D in the house so I don't need to be reminded of Chris Condon nor of our disasterous association.

Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

Well, as I'm sure you know, there are times when you have to accept a paycheck in order to pay the bills. And it's not like Warner Bros or Sony are beating down our door.

That being said, the nudie-cutie double-feature has historic value: ADAM AND SIX EVES was the last use of the venerable Natural Vision rig and is quite well photographed. BELLBOY AND THE PLAYGIRLS has 3-D footage written and directed by Francis Ford Coppola.

Greg K will never be the same again, after working a few months on these two.

I can usually be persuaded by the paycheck and historic value arguments and always by the invocation of Francis Ford Coppola. There's an interview where he talks about this film; definitely audio but it might also be video. Do you know the interview I mean?