The Criterion Collection

[jt839]

There is nothing majorly wrong with the 4ks of The Shining, The Maltese Falcon, Goodfellas, Casablanca, Wizard of Oz, or 2001. No reason Criterion should redo them. I'd rather see Criterion release new to 4k titles.

My 4k wishlist:
Something Wild (1986)
Midnight Cowboy
True Stories
The Irishman
The Lady Eve

[Egbert Souse]

Originally Posted by jt839

There is nothing majorly wrong with the 4ks of The Shining, The Maltese Falcon, Goodfellas, Casablanca, Wizard of Oz, or 2001. No reason Criterion should redo them. I'd rather see Criterion release new to 4k titles.

There's plenty of room for improvement on The Shining. Original mono, original Warner logo, both the American and International cuts seamlessly branched, Vivian Kubrick's making-of remastered in HD, plus the original trailer that was inexplicably left off the Warner 4K.

I'd throw in another commentary or two, some new interviews/pieces, maybe even an open matte version in 1080p. Perhaps a new Atmos mix.

Though, I think it would work better as a Scream Factory 4K.

[captainron_howdy]

I've been hoping for a Blu-ray upgrade of David Mamet's Homicide.

[jedidarrick]

Wish list:
Godzilla: The Heisei Era (will settle for a 4K of Godzilla 1984, or a 4K of any live-action Toho Godzilla film)
Nightmare Alley 4K (with the B/W cut)
Barry Lyndon 4K
Boogie Nights 4K
Napoleon Dynamite 4K
Isle of Dogs 4K (or any Wes Anderson in 4K)
Any Chaplin 4K upgrade
There are other titles, but I assume Criterion will hold off on High and Low until the remake comes out and any David Lynch 4Ks until November.

[javy]

Maybe they'll come out of left field and give us something like Chabrol's Les Biches or a Norma Shearer boxset.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by jt839

There is nothing majorly wrong with the 4ks of The Shining

Questionable color timing, no open matte option, no mono track.

Originally Posted by jt839

The Maltese Falcon

Nothing wrong per se, but it would be a good excuse to restore The Maltese Falcon (1931) and Satan Met A Lady (1936), which have limited potential on their own.

Originally Posted by jt839

Goodfellas

The HDR is awful. While every 4K has at least one troll complaining that "...blah blah blah, the disc is too dark, blah blah blah...", Goodfellas is one of the few discs where that's true. It's oppressively crushed. This is because while Scorsese and his team oversaw the 16-bit 4K scan, the 4K restoration, the 4K SDR color grade, the 4K SDR master, the 2K downscale from this master, the Blu-ray transfer, and the Blu-ray releases of this transfer, that's where their work stopped.

Someone else from WB, who was not connected with Scorsese, oversaw the 4K HDR color grade, the 4K HDR master, the UHD transfer, and the UHD release of the transfer.

Granted, it was one of the earliest 4Ks. At the time, it was the oldest film ever to be released on the format, a record that by now has likely been broken at least several hundred times.

However, for that mistake to become the final word for such a legendary film...it just can't be.

The new 4K and Blu-ray would both cost little to make. The actual scan, restoration, SDR color grade, and master are stunning. So a new DV/HDR color grade, plus new special features, plus new authoring and manufacturing. Port over the Blu-ray transfer from 2015, now they've saved even more effort in producing a Blu-ray transfer.

Very little effort, relatively little money (compared to a film they have to scan and restore from the ground up), very high payoff.

Originally Posted by jt839

Casablanca

https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/2021/0...anca-1942.html

Scroll down to the video. Some of the worst filtering I've ever heard.

Originally Posted by jt839

Wizard of Oz

No mono audio, every release is missing hours of features (because there's several dozen hours of features), all mono tracks on home video have some form of an issue.

Originally Posted by jt839

or 2001.

The current 4K is great, but just by adding the deleted scenes, unfiltered sound, and all special features, Criterion could make it even better.

Originally Posted by jt839

No reason Criterion should redo them.

'kay.

Originally Posted by jt839

I'd rather see Criterion release new to 4k titles.

My 4k wishlist:
Something Wild (1986)
Midnight Cowboy
True Stories
The Irishman
The Lady Eve

All are solid films, and I'd say The Irishman and Midnight Cowboy will inevitably happen at some point.

[HipsterTrash]

I would like some more Jean Pierre Melville. I feel like Ceiterion has been ignoring the guy.

[jedidarrick]

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

I would like some more Jean Pierre Melville. I feel like Ceiterion has been ignoring the guy.

Kino has some of his films, but I would be down for an Army of Shadows 4K.

[PipesDonatello]

Would love for Criterion to finally announce the Coens' The Man Who Wasn't There. At least they can't screw up the color timing.

Would also like the Time Masters announcement to happen.

[DimitriL]

Originally Posted by concolt

Then they should have stated in the beginning just pick this many and you can only have one boxset. Doing it now in my opinion looks like they are struggling for money and need to pinch pennies.

Having now listened to the podcast, this got blown out of proportion. The producer says there’s not a hard or fast limit, it’s kind of a best judgment kind of thing. It’s more based on the size limits of the closet itself, where they basically can fit 1 BD and 1 DVD of each title and they’re trying to manage that. They said if there’s a bunch of people who, say, want Pat Garrett and they all want it badly, they’d ask the talent to put it back for the moment and they’ll send them a fresh copy when they restock. (It seems clear that people think the Criterion offices are a warehouse, when they in fact keep fairly limited numbers of their titles.)

[disco1979]

Wishlist:

Manifesting some Mike Nichols Silkwood 4K and Working Girl 4K

Another one for Raise the Red Lantern and The Unbearable Lightness of Being

Shoot the Moon (1982)

1972: Lady Sings the Blues 4K and Sounder 4K

Never will happen and probably more likely a Warner Archive release: In Country (1989).

Music: Madonna Truth or Dare and Madonna's videos in true 4K. Oh, and Desperately Seeking Susan 40th Anniversary 4K Edition.

[dwk]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

Perhaps this is why. Does Criterion have deals with Lionsgate and/or SC? One of them likely owns Ran outright. If Lionsgate, then SC likely has non-US or non-NA rights. If SC, the Lionsgate has either US rights or NA rights.

Still though, I don't see Ran happening this July.

StudioCanal owns the film, and Criterion does have deals with both Lionsgate (Amores Perros. Eve's Bayou, Drugstore Cowboy) and StudioCanal (a whole bunch of titles.)

[Watershipdownisgood]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

I forgot all of these.

The Brother From Another Planet is a shoo-in. Definitely. If not in July, then in November.

The Mack, that may explain why after 20 years of Blu-ray - 20 years! - we still don't have it.

Likely:
-The Brother From Another Planet 4K and Blu-ray
-Hud 4K and Blu-ray

Unlikely, but worth hoping for
-The Mack 4K and Blu-ray
-The Year Of Living Dangerously 4K and Blu-ray
-The Mosquito Coast 4K and Blu-ray (the only downside is that Weir might wax them to death, like he did with Picnic At Hanging Rock)

And I'll add five more to the unlikely stack, three of which I'm shocked WDIG didn't mention.

-Uptown Saturday Night, Let's Do It Again, and A Piece Of The Action 4K and Blu-ray (I am truly shocked you've never mentioned these, and aside from a long-gone boot of the last one, I've never owned any of these films)

-The Rocky Horror Picture Show and Shock Treatment 4K and Blu-ray (this year is the 50th anniversary of RHPS, and rather than just repackaging the 2000 DVD and 2010 Blu-ray again, why not actually restore both films?)

Honestly, Let’s do it again, Uptown Saturday Night, and a Piece of the Action I don’t see ever happening until Cosby passes away even then I don’t think Criterion, or even WAC wants to deal with his remaining Warner titles right now, and I don’t blame them. I really don’t think some boutique labels really want to deal with Cosby titles right now unless somehow Uptown Saturday Night actually gets released I doubt it right now. I think the fact Cosby has had his reputation completely ruined doesn’t help these titles whatsoever.

Also Cosby is a complete scumbag, and honestly deserves to be in the situation he’s involved in. Screw him sorry

[koberulz]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

How is that done? Serious question.

We're not allowed to discuss that here.

My guess would be whatever crosses the border gets a tariff. So if a case, a cover, an insert, a disc, a roll or piece of wrap, and a sticker cross the border, that's minimum six tariffs, unless they assemble in Mexico too. (It wouldn't shock me if the law changes, making it so that all parts must enter the US separately, and then be assembled in the US, making it possible to charge a tariff on each component of an item, instead of just on the item.)

What in pluperfect hell are you talking about?

Which all but confirms Flow from Criterion proper.

That's already been confirmed.

[Professor Echo]

Remind me not to read Shane's posts when I first wake up and haven't had any coffee.

[Show spoiler]

[JoelGoodsen]

Eyes Wide Shut + SubUrbia (1996). Come on Criterion. Let's go.

[ShellOilJunior]

High and Low seems very likely. Criterion, please also bring Stray Dog to UHD/BD. Long overdue!

[Olmo]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

For me, I saw it years ago because I'd heard that it was one of the greatest films ever. And I'm only 25.

While in those days (I was 13 so this was 2012-2013) I couldn't honestly drag the film through the mud, I can honestly say the film failed to live up to my expectations. (Then again, while I think Kane, Seven Samurai, and Wild Strawberries are masterpieces, I also think Gone With The Wind and Salo blow the big one, so don't take me as the arbiter of taste.)

Then when the real story of the butter scene came out, that admittedly tanked my opinion of the film. While many films have rape scenes that are acted (A Clockwork Orange, for example), the knowledge that the scene in Last Tango In Paris was a real rape is just disturbing at a level that's hard to describe. As a viewer of the film, I felt like I was in on the act just by watching it.

Are you seriously suggesting that Bertolucci & Brando were complicit in the rape of a young woman? And that the crew stood around, not only watching, but also filming it??!

Read up on it instead of believing clickbait headlines, because it’s utter nonsense. She was told about the scene in every detail but just prior to it being filmed, this was in order for Bertolucci to capture the shock still registering on Schneider’s face. So yes, morally in the gutter and very, very manipulative but still a million miles from your assertion.

[koberulz]

Originally Posted by Olmo

Are you seriously suggesting that Bertolucci & Brando were complicit in the rape of a young woman? And that the crew stood around, not only watching, but also filming it??!

Read up on it instead of believing clickbait headlines, because it’s utter nonsense. She was told about the scene in every detail but just prior to it being filmed, this was in order for Bertolucci to capture the shock still registering on Schneider’s face. So yes, morally in the gutter and very, very manipulative but still a million miles from your assertion.

Schneider:

They only told me about it before we had to film the scene and I was so angry. I should have called my agent or had my lawyer come to the set because you can't force someone to do something that isn't in the script, but at the time, I didn't know that.

Bertolucci:

The girl wasn't mature enough to understand what was going on.

"Rape" typically requires actual penetration or the like, but "sexual assault" fits just fine.

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