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Old 12-27-2015, 07:04 PM   #140461
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You're just messing with me, right?
No lol

I can appreciate certain things he has brought to cinema, I just aint fan of his films (except Shutter Island which I can't stop watching lol)
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:08 PM   #140462
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No lol

I can appreciate certain things he has brought to cinema, I just aint fan of his films (except Shutter Island which I can't stop watching lol)
Taki Driver? Raging Bull? The Color of Money? Goodfellas? The Last Temptation of Christ? Casino? The Aviator? The Departed? The Wolf of Wall Street?

I mean, come on!
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:10 PM   #140463
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Taki Driver? Raging Bull? The Color of Money? Goodfellas? The Last Temptation of Christ? Casino? The Aviator? The Departed? The Wolf of Wall Street?

I mean, come on!
Oh I forgot he did The Last Temptation of Christ : o

HATED The Wolf of Wall Street has to be one of the most annoying film to have come out recently, and there has been a lot of annoying films

Raging bull just wasn't for me, not a fan of that genre - although as I said, I can appreciate what he brought with it.
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:13 PM   #140464
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Taki Driver? Raging Bull? The Color of Money? Goodfellas? The Last Temptation of Christ? Casino? The Aviator? The Departed? The Wolf of Wall Street?

I mean, come on!
King of Comedy? Mean Streets? After Hours? Gangs of NY?

I mean, come on!
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:13 PM   #140465
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I detest the films of Jean-Luc Godard.

There, I said it.

Blasphemy.

The movie gods are angry at me.

Lightning and thunder.

I'm sure I'm going to get eaten alive by going against Godard, but I honestly cannot stand this man's technique. I just watched Every Man for Himself last night and felt something I haven't felt in a while while watching a film: Alienation. These ridiculous editing techniques he uses, with the slow motion and sound editing drove me crazy. Why the hell would someone do that to a movie throughout the film? It was a total artsy fartsy maneuver. Maybe I'm not used to that but I was livid. Godard is NOT a director in my top 10, nor my top 20, or top 50 for that matter. I don't care if he made one of the greatest films of all time (Breathless) and invented French New Wave singlehandedly. I just don't like his movies!

Every Man for Himself alienated and distanced me. I didn't care whatsoever for this film. I'm ashamed for even buying this film for 50% off a while back during a sale.

Maybe I just don't get Godard, but I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Ingmar Bergman on Jean-Luc Godard:
“I've never gotten anything out of his movies. They have felt constructed, faux intellectual, and completely dead. Cinematographically uninteresting and infinitely boring. Godard is a ****ing bore. He’s made his films for the critics. One of the movies, Masculin, Féminin, was shot here in Sweden. It was mind-numbingly boring.”

Orson Welles on Jean-Luc Godard:
“His gifts as a director are enormous. I just can’t take him very seriously as a thinker — and that’s where we seem to differ, because he does. His message is what he cares about these days, and, like most movie messages, it could be written on the head of a pin.”

Werner Herzog on Jean-Luc Godard:
“Someone like Jean-Luc Godard is for me intellectual counterfeit money when compared to a good kung-fu film.”

Aside from my friends Ingmar, Orson and Werner, does anyone else have a problem with Godard besides me?

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Old 12-27-2015, 07:14 PM   #140466
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I detest the films of Jean-Luc Godard.

There, I said it.

Blasphemy.

The movie gods are angry at me.

Lightning and thunder.

I'm sure I'm going to get eaten alive by going against Godard, but I honestly cannot stand this man's technique. I just watched Every Man for Himself last night and felt something I haven't felt in a while while watching a film: Alienation. These ridiculous editing techniques he uses, with the slow motion and sound editing drove me crazy. Why the hell would someone do that to a movie throughout the film? It was a total artsy fartsy maneuver. Maybe I'm not used to that but I was livid. Godard is NOT a director in my top 10, nor my top 20, or top 50 for that matter. I don't care if he made one of the greatest films of all time (Breathless) and invented French New Wave singlehandedly. I just don't like his movies!

Every Man for Himself alienated and distanced me. I didn't care whatsoever for this film. I'm ashamed for even buying this film for 50% off a while back during a sale.

Maybe I just don't get Godard, but I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I think you will hate Goodbye to Language lol.
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:17 PM   #140467
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King of Comedy? Mean Streets? After Hours? Gangs of NY?

I mean, come on!
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I detest the films of Jean-Luc Godard.

There, I said it.

Blasphemy.

The movie gods are angry at me.

Lightning and thunder.

I'm sure I'm going to get eaten alive by going against Godard, but I honestly cannot stand this man's technique. I just watched Every Man for Himself last night and felt something I haven't felt in a while while watching a film: Alienation. These ridiculous editing techniques he uses, with the slow motion and sound editing drove me crazy. Why the hell would someone do that to a movie throughout the film? It was a total artsy fartsy maneuver. Maybe I'm not used to that but I was livid. Godard is NOT a director in my top 10, nor my top 20, or top 50 for that matter. I don't care if he made one of the greatest films of all time (Breathless) and invented French New Wave singlehandedly. I just don't like his movies!

Every Man for Himself alienated and distanced me. I didn't care whatsoever for this film. I'm ashamed for even buying this film for 50% off a while back during a sale.

Maybe I just don't get Godard, but I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Anyone else have a problem with Godard besides me?
You're evil.
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:22 PM   #140468
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Godard can be brilliant but he can also be terrible. Personally I find his 60's films to be somewhat overrated and actually prefer some of his later, more underrated ones, but it's hard to deny what he achieved between 1960-1967. It was an incredible run by anyone's standards. He covered more ground in that period than most directors do in an entire lifetime on the 'job'.

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Old 12-27-2015, 07:32 PM   #140469
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Told ya'
I'm surprised that so many people here either didn't like it or thought it was mediocre.

I liked Night and the City, but Odd Man Out has much more to chew on imo.

...gorgeous black and white photography.
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:33 PM   #140470
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Only Scorsese film I have enjoyed was Shutter Island. I have seen a few of his others and they for me, weren't enjoyable or engaging. (might get some hate for this but oh well).
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:33 PM   #140471
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Godard can be brilliant but he can also be terrible. Personally I find his 60's films to be somewhat overrated and actually prefer some of his later, more underrated ones, but it's hard to deny what he achieved between 1960-1969. It was an incredible run by anyone's standards. He covered more ground in that period than most directors do in an entire lifetime on the 'job'.
Not a huge Godard fan, but Vivre Sa Vie and Pierrot Le Fou are both brilliant art film masterworks imo.

But I get why some people would be turned off by them.

...especially Pierrot Le Fou.

Breathless is good, but overrated imo.
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:35 PM   #140472
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Best part about Oscars is watching Jennifer Lawrence fall over.

I did enjoy Hugo as a film, I loved the themes and subject but it wasn't anything special - it's easy to forget about tbh and other films have touched upon those subject better. But oh well.

Only Scorsese film I have enjoyed was Shutter Island. I have seen a few of his others and they for me, weren't enjoyable or engaging. (might get some hate for this but oh well).
I don't know if you're trolling or not.

But if serious...then WOW.

To each his own.
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:37 PM   #140473
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I don't know if you're trolling or not.

But if serious...then WOW.

To each his own.
I am serious - most of his other films haven't been 'my genre' or anything I'm interested in really, so was harder to enjoy them.

Shutter Island contained a lot of stuff I am interested in in cinema and felt it was made very well and has a lot of re watch value
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:42 PM   #140475
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Is that intended for me?

Cause what's wrong with not liking a directors films and having an opinion..?
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I am serious - most of his other films haven't been 'my genre' or anything I'm interested in really, so was harder to enjoy them.

Shutter Island contained a lot of stuff I am interested in in cinema and felt it was made very well and has a lot of re watch value
Oddly enough, as highly regarded as he is, I can understand if you're not into gangster/mob films. Also oddly enough, the one film of his other than The Departed that I have actually watched and not liked was Shutter Island. I love Hugo and Taxi Driver though.
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:44 PM   #140477
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Oddly enough, as highly regarded as he is, I can understand if you're not into gangster/mob films. Also oddly enough, the one film of his other than The Departed that I have actually watched and not liked was Shutter Island. I love Hugo and Taxi Driver though.
Hugo was a fun flick and had some great moments (I loved the reveal towards the end) but its not something I am desperate to go out and own or re watch.

Gangster films just don't do it for me, same reason I can't get into/watch The Godfather films, although I do love his daughters films
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Cause what's wrong with not liking a directors films and having an opinion..?
Gee, I don't know. Nothing?
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As long as we're having a little Oscars talk, I was looking through the best picture nominees over the years, trying to decide which was the which was the worst year and which was the best.

How about 1975 as the best? "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest", "Barry Lyndon", "Jaws", "Nashville" and "Dog Day Afternoon". Wow. 1976 wasn't too bad either, with "Rocky", "All the President's Men", "Bound for Glory", "Network" and "Taxi Driver".

Compare that to 2011, which is a contender for worst. There were 9 nominations for best picture. "The Artist", "The Descendants", "Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close", "The Help", "Hugo", "Midnight in Paris", "Moneyball", "The Tree of Life" and "War Horse". It's incredible the difference in quality.
In 1975, the Academy Awards got it right, at least for USA/UK films.

From non-USA/UK markets, 1975 gave us:

Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles(Akerman)
The Travelling Players(Angelopoulos)
Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom(Pasolini)
The Passenger(Antonioni)
Dersu Uzala(Kurosawa)
The Seasons(Peleshian)
Picnic at Hanging Rock(Weir)
Numero deux(Godard)
Anna(Grifi & Sarchielli)
The Battle of Chile: Part 1(Guzmán)
Cria Cuervos(Saura)
Deep Red(Argento)
Fox and His Friends(Fassbinder)
Furtivos(Borau)
Graveyard of Honor(Fukasaku)
The Great Ecstacy of Woodcarver Steiner(Herzog)
Harvest: 3,000 Years(Gerima)
L'important c'est d'aimer(Zulawski)
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Sholay(Sippy).

As for other great USA/UK films, the year gave us:
Grey Gardens(Maysles Brothers)
Love and Death(Allen)
The Man Who Would Be King(Huston)
Milestones(Kramer & Douglas)
Monty Python and the Holy Grail(Gilliam & Jones)
Night Moves(Penn)
The Rocky Horror Picture Show(Sharman)
Shampoo(Ashby)
Three Days of the Condor(Pollack)
Tommy(Russell)
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Welfare(Wiseman)

As Frank Sinatra used to sing: "It was a very good year!"

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Who can name the 6 Best Picture Oscar winners to have a Criterion dvd or blu ray release?
Anybody? Figured it was a good question since we were having an Oscar debate on the Criterion forum
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