2025 Major League Baseball Thread

[Louisville Slugger]

Originally Posted by toefer

The one weird thing about Jeter is that people, for some reason, don't think he can play much longer. Maybe 3-4 more seasons, if he's lucky, and 5-6 if he's really lucky.

I think if he can play, he will. Just because people are speculating only 5-6 more years doesn't mean he won't play 7-8. I think he continues to play until he no longer can physically do it. At 35, he is putting up numbers similar or better than his career numbers. Just goes to show how much this game really means to Jeter.

[toef]

Originally Posted by Louisville Slugger

I think if he can play, he will. Just because people are speculating only 5-6 more years doesn't mean he won't play 7-8. I think he continues to play until he no longer can physically do it. At 35, he is putting up numbers similar or better than his career numbers. Just goes to show how much this game really means to Jeter.

True, but it will be interesting to see what the Yankees do. I highly doubt Jeter would ever play for any other team. If the Yankees don't have a spot for him, he'll just retire. But will the Yankees give up a spot on their team for a sub-par Jeter? Who knows.

It's not only about whether he can play or not, but also whether about he can play at the level the Yankees expect/want/need.

[Louisville Slugger]

Originally Posted by toefer

True, but it will be interesting to see what the Yankees do. I highly doubt Jeter would ever play for any other team. If the Yankees don't have a spot for him, he'll just retire. But will the Yankees give up a spot on their team for a sub-par Jeter? Who knows.

It's not only about whether he can play or not, but also whether about he can play at the level the Yankees expect/want/need.

True, maybe he'll DH, lol.

The Yankees are 91-50 on the season. If they continue to play .645 ball they’ll finish the season 105-57.

The Yankees are 53-18 in their last 71 games. If they continue to play .746 ball they’ll finish the season around 106-56, closer to 107-55 though.

The Yankees are 40-13 since the All-Star break. If they continue to play .755 ball they’ll finish the season 107-55.

Realistically I think they finish 103-58 since they play The Angles and Red Sox. I have to say though; right now the Yankees look unstoppable.

They only need to go 9-12 (.429) to reach 100 wins. You know your team is playing well when all they need to do is play 3 games below .500 for the remaining 21 games in order to finish the season with 100 wins.

They need to keep the momentum flowing.

[hc666]

Originally Posted by toefer

Well basic math says that 3,000 hits is more likely than 4,000.

I agree though. 4,000 is a long shot for Jeter, but it certainly can't be ruled out yet.

I agree about Ichiro too. Kind of a shame he didn't get here sooner.

But I'm not sure Jeter's autograph would suddenly be going up, because people saw this coming a long time ago.

The one weird thing about Jeter is that people, for some reason, don't think he can play much longer. Maybe 3-4 more seasons, if he's lucky, and 5-6 if he's really lucky.

Yet A-Rod is under contract with the Yankees through the 2017 season (that's 8 more season after this year, for those counting at home... though to be fair, he is a whopping 1 year younger than Jeter).

I guess the argument might be that Jeter and A-Rod will both have to DH at the end of their careers, and if the Yankees can only pick one, it seems like they'd take the prideful-power-production glamour man over the humbled hit-for-average captain.

Whatever.

I hope one day Posada becomes the Yankee skipper.

Spoken like a true Yankee fan LOL Wow i'm not even a Yanks fan and your post offended me.... Jeter is amzing. He's the heart and soul of this team and the reason they have dominated since after the strike in the 90s.

Without Jeter, the Yanks would not have accomplished what they did the past many years.

The guy is amazing. My hat is off to him.

[toef]

Originally Posted by hc666

Spoken like a true Yankee fan LOL Wow i'm not even a Yanks fan and your post offended me.... Jeter is amzing. He's the heart and soul of this team and the reason they have dominated since after the strike in the 90s.

Without Jeter, the Yanks would not have accomplished what they did the past many years.

The guy is amazing. My hat is off to him.

No!

I don't dislike him, I just think he's given too much credit. He sort of fell into the captain role because the Yankees needed something for fans to get excited about, after 3 years of not winning the World Series.

I don't have an official source, but rumor has it that Posada is much more of a captain on the team, in terms of getting everyone in line. When Jorge was injured last year, and was away from the team, look what happened.

Anyhow, to reiterate past points: I think Jeter will play for another 4-5 seasons, and he's certainly not better than Gehrig. He's not even the best shortstop currently on the team.

[supersix4]

The O's are 4 and 22 against the AL East. OWNED

[toef]

Originally Posted by supersix4

The O's are 4 and 22 against the AL East. OWNED

It helps to find the positive in anything. The O's finished first in the race to be eliminated, right?

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by toefer

It helps to find the positive in anything. The O's finished first in the race to be eliminated, right?

Yep we crushed the nationals in that race, if you aren't first your last.

[SDon1969]

Originally Posted by supersix4

The O's are 4 and 22 against the AL East. OWNED

I feel a bit bad for them, during last night's Sox/O's game they mentioned some stats (which I won't try to quote since I'd probably misremember them). Fenway has been tough on them O's the past couple seasons.

Sox are still trying to hold off Texas for that AL Wild Card spot (there's no catching the Yanks, they forgot how to lose!). Looks to be an edge-of-your-seat September for Sox and Ranger fans. TB is falling too far back to worry me much.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by SDon1969

I feel a bit bad for them, during last night's Sox/O's game they mentioned some stats (which I won't try to quote since I'd probably misremember them). Fenway has been tough on them O's the past couple seasons.

Pitching and inconsistent hitting, yeah we have big nights with hitting but I'd rather see consistent 4,5,2,3,3,4,3 games then 7,9,0,1,2,1,0,5

No 1-4 run lead is safe with our staff lol

and guthrie most home runs given up by a pitcher... Yeah thats right AL East top that ace of the staff

[toef]

Looking through the box scores, I saw that Pavano outpitched Halladay yesterday, to earn his 12th win of the season.

That's exactly 3 more wins than Pavano had during his entire run with the Yankees. Yes, I said that right.... in 4 seasons with the Yankees, he had a total of 9 wins (so the Yankees paid him about $4.5 million for each win).

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by toefer

Looking through the box scores, I saw that Pavano outpitched Halladay yesterday, to earn his 12th win of the season.

That's exactly 3 more wins than Pavano had during his entire run with the Yankees. Yes, I said that right.... in 4 seasons with the Yankees, he had a total of 9 wins (so the Yankees paid him about $4.5 million for each win).

Pavano did have some great injuries with the Yankees, like when he started the 2006 season on the DL with a bruised butt or when he got injured in a car crash and didn't tell the Yankees until they had scheduled a start for him. I've got to guess Pavano is among the most hated former Yankees by their fans.

[Louisville Slugger]

Originally Posted by hc666

Without Jeter and Mariano Rivera the Yanks would not have accomplished what they did the past many years.

These guys are amazing. My hat is off to them.

Fixed,

[hc666]

Originally Posted by Louisville Slugger

Fixed,

Haha yes very true... the two of them.

Seriously though, take a guy you can't keep off base who is also great diffensively and then add in a closer who is total lights out... you will win alot of games!

Robbie Alomar/Duane Ward come to mind from 1993

[hc666]

Originally Posted by toefer

No!

I don't dislike him, I just think he's given too much credit. He sort of fell into the captain role because the Yankees needed something for fans to get excited about, after 3 years of not winning the World Series.

I don't have an official source, but rumor has it that Posada is much more of a captain on the team, in terms of getting everyone in line. When Jorge was injured last year, and was away from the team, look what happened.

Anyhow, to reiterate past points: I think Jeter will play for another 4-5 seasons, and he's certainly not better than Gehrig. He's not even the best shortstop currently on the team.

Haha just pulling your leg man. But I still think Jeter(and well Rivera) was the icing on the Yankee domination cake the past 15 or so years.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by hc666

Haha just pulling your leg man. But I still think Jeter(and well Rivera) was the icing on the Yankee domination cake the past 15 or so years.

it was david wells he was the glue...

[Hi-Def Steve]

Wake me when he catches Rose.

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by hc666

Haha just pulling your leg man. But I still think Jeter(and well Rivera) was the icing on the Yankee domination cake the past 15 or so years.

Posada was the most important player from the current Yankee run of the past fifteen years. Bernie Williams was just as valuable, but obviously his prime and career ended years ago. Closers in general are overrated. No one will ever know, but Mariano might have been much more valuable as a starter.

[sfmarine]

There's some good talk brewing here.

Louisville Slugger- you fried my brain with all those numbers lol But I loved the analysis.

I could definitely see Posada taking the skipper job sometime down the road.

toefer- Well...not being fond of Jeter is rare but you're entitled to your own opinion. His auto's are already worth anywhere between $300-600...Jeter just wants to win. Him becoming Captain was a huge honor. The last Yankee being Munson. It really wasn't Jeter's doing it was all Steinbrenner. He thought that the team needed a leader and Jeter was first in line. At least he doesn't advertise it like Jason Varitek does. I mean come on...he wears a "C"..no one else in baseball does that. This isn't hockey(waiting for sdon's comment lol). Notice how Jeter rarely gets any negative publicity? A-rod got so much with his whole "wife problem", juice, and Madonna to name a few. Jeter is a quiet guy. However, he's very stoic and even catatonic @ times. Which is why he'll probably never take a manager position. That's how Torre was too. It took a lot to get Torre ticked off and him getting ejected was rare. Girardi has a short ruse and he's been out of the dugout a lot this year.

As far as the Pete Rose record...ya it's a stretch. He's got to stay healthy and still contribute. He'll probably eventually get moved to first base, DH, or even the outfield. ...Posada, Mariano, and Jeter are all headed to the Hall of fame. They'll probably be the next in line to get their numbers retired. I'd love to see Paul O'Neill's retired but since he wasn't with the Yankees for the entire run, he'll probably get docked. They gave a rookie his number (21) and the fans booed him lol. Since then it still hasn't been worn since the '03 WS.

Clark Kent mentioned Bernie Williams. He's another unsung hero. He did great things over the years. 51 should be retired as well. A-Rod's will probably get retired because of what he's going to do before he retires. Hopefully he can get a ring in the process.

Carl Pavano...yes, the worst Yankee I've ever seen lol He pitched 1 game and made 45 million.

[Louisville Slugger]

Originally Posted by sfmarine

There's some good talk brewing here.

Louisville Slugger- you fried my brain with all those numbers lol But I loved the analysis.

I should have been more accurate. I was counting Jeter's '95 year when I computed the average amount of games he played a year. Jeter has played in 13 complete seasons. From 1996 to 2008 he played in 1,970 games for an average of about 152 games per season. 1,970 games through 13 seasons is a more accurate representation than 1,985 games through 14 seasons.

(4,256 hits – 2,721 hits) / (2,721 hits / 2,119 games) / (1,970 games / 13 seasons) equals about 7.89 seasons or about 7 seasons and 144 games to reach 4,256 hits.



Here's to 8 more healthy years!

I am predicting Friday, September 8, 2017. Jeter would be 43.2 years old.