2025 Major League Baseball Thread

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by Louisville Slugger

I want Nova to stay in the rotation. I like watching him pitch.

They might go with a 6 man rotation this go around (but nothing is for certain) so Colon and Garcia can get some rest. Honestly, I've been saying that Hughes should be moved to the pen even before he returned from the DL.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

They might go with a 6 man rotation this go around (but nothing is for certain) so Colon and Garcia can get some rest. Honestly, I've been saying that Hughes should be moved to the pen even before he returned from the DL.

i think they should go to a 6 man rotation to ensure garcia and colon last....i dont think CC is going to like that though....

but with Hughes...our bullpen was pretty stacked at the start of the season... then we lost Marte, Feliciano and Soriano...but now he should definitely go there

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

i think they should go to a 6 man rotation to ensure garcia and colon last....i dont think CC is going to like that though....

but with Hughes...our bullpen was pretty stacked at the start of the season... then we lost Marte, Feliciano and Soriano...but now he should definitely go there

Well, they'll look at the wavier wire and try to find a diamond in the rough before the 31 (that's the cutoff date for a player acquired via waivers to be eligible for the playoff roster).

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by NavsterKing

Jim Thome is now 3 HR's shy of 600... Surprising people arent talking about this more...

My guess is because most people don't think it's legit.

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

My guess is because most people don't think it's legit.

There's never been any allegations connecting him to PED's.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

There's never been any allegations connecting him to PED's.

Neither were there is regards to Jeff Bagwell. Yet Bagwell didn't even come close to making the HOF first ballot when his number/contributions clearly were first ballot numbers. It was clear the HOF voters kept him out because they assume he did use. Much like HOF voters fans also come to their own conclusions about which players are using. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, it's just the way it is. Based on Thome's physique and power numbers it seems highly unlikely he didn't use IMO.

[Navster]

Pretty much, I'd say 70-80% of ball players in the late 90's to about 2005, is Guilty, until proven innocent...

[Wingman1977]

Well, it's official. We're going with a 6 man rotation (for now).

[Navster]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

Well, it's official. We're going with a 6 man rotation (for now).

This actually should benefit Yanks pitching staff, at least your arms will be fresh come playoff time....

[Wingman1977]

Originally Posted by NavsterKing

This actually should benefit Yanks pitching staff, at least your arms will be fresh come playoff time....

That's the plan. Hopefully this doesn't backfire on us (even though I can't see how).

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

My guess is because most people don't think it's legit.

It's more a combination of him never being anywhere near one of the most popular guy (through no fault of his own) and the fact he's basically been chipping away at it as a platoon/bench player.

He's also going to be the fifth player of his generation to hit 600 (3/4 proven roid users) so it's probably lost its luster there as well.

Should be an easy Hall choice. He was steady and a career 147ops+ is damn impressive as is the .404 career obp.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Hatter

It's more a combination of him never being anywhere near one of the most popular guy (through no fault of his own) and the fact he's basically been chipping away at it as a platoon/bench player.

He's also going to be the fifth player of his generation to hit 600 (3/4 proven roid users) so it's probably lost its luster there as well.

Should be an easy Hall choice. He was steady and a career 147ops+ is damn impressive as is the .404 career obp.

I'll bet he doesn't make the HOF for several years, if at all. As I've said, HOF voters are a fickle bunch. If they even think you may have used you're not getting in. I was sure Bagwell would be first ballot and he didn't even crack 50% of the vote this year. And I absolutely think Bagwell had a better career than Thome has.

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

I'll bet he doesn't make the HOF for several years, if at all. As I've said, HOF voters are a fickle bunch. If they even think you may have used you're not getting in. I was sure Bagwell would be first ballot and he didn't even crack 50% of the vote this year. And I absolutely think Bagwell had a better career than Thome has.

No doubt Bagwell's career was more impressive. Far more impressive. Perhaps we can use Alomar as a comparison. Several didn't vote because of the spitting incident but year two he receives 90% of the vote which is one of the highest totals ever. That may well be what happens to Bagwell next year. Maybe not 90% but comfortably get in. Then again, they voted 90% ignoring Alomar's rather quick decline but ragged on Bagwell over nothing. It's a head scratcher for sure.

[Clark Kent]

Bagwell was practically a known juicer. One of his best friends was Ken Caminiti, who won an MVP on steroids and publicly admitted it before his death. It is almost 100% sure that Bagwell was on something during the height of his career. Thome hasn't lost a lick of power after testing has been implemented, even making no allowances for his advanced age now. The only clean members of the 600 club from this generation will be Griffey and Thome.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Hatter

No doubt Bagwell's career was more impressive. Far more impressive. Perhaps we can use Alomar as a comparison. Several didn't vote because of the spitting incident but year two he receives 90% of the vote which is one of the highest totals ever. That may well be what happens to Bagwell next year. Maybe not 90% but comfortably get in. Then again, they voted 90% ignoring Alomar's rather quick decline but ragged on Bagwell over nothing. It's a head scratcher for sure.

Ya, I disagree with the bulk of these voters. Unless you have outright proof or VERY strong evidence a guy juiced I think the played should be voted in. Bagwell should have easily been first ballot. My guess is he'll make it in in 2012 or 2013.

The biggest problem I have is HOF voters excluding guys who obviously never used but deserve to make it. The best example of this is Fred McGriff. Just by looking at the guy it's obvious he never used. I still don't get why the guy with cannot break 22% in the HOF vote despite having 493 HR, 1550 RBI's. Sadly a lot of it probably has to do with him coming up 7 HR shy of 500.

[Clark Kent]

McGriff will eventually get in the Hall through the veteran's committee. Those seven missing homers will prevent the writers from voting him there.

[ChadFL]

Good god ya just can't make this shit up if you tried. RIP. This is a really young guy too. I swear whenever you think the Dodgers season can't get any more bizarre it does.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/01/matthe...t-case-attack/

Dodgers Beating Case: Key Witness dies, bad salad suspected

One of the men who was with Bryan Stow at Dodgers Stadium on the day he was attacked has died ... and officials believe his death can be chalked up to a salad that contained nuts.

Matthew Lee -- Stow's friend who accompanied Bryan to the game on March 31 -- died yesterday. Lee's official cause of death has not been released -- but according to reports, officials believe his death was the result of an allergic reaction triggered by nuts in a salad he had eaten for lunch.

Lee was regarded as an important witness in the case against Stow's alleged attackers -- Louie Sanchez and Marvin Norwood.

According to court documents, prosecutors believe Sanchez punched Lee in the parking lot of Dodgers Stadium before attacking Stow.

Both suspects have yet to enter a plea in the case.

[Wingman1977]

The Pirates are starting to fade. Man, that horrible call against the Braves seem to affect them.

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

The Pirates are starting to fade. Man, that horrible call against the Braves seem to affect them.

Or they are simply playing up to their talent level now. Against the better teams their pitching does not stand much of a chance. I doubt if they finish much better than .500 on the year.

[Hi-Def Steve]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Good god ya just can't make this shit up if you tried. RIP. This is a really young guy too. I swear whenever you think the Dodgers season can't get any more bizarre it does.

Yeah I saw that story, don't know what to think of it. And yes our season keeps spinning down the crapper. Our pathetic Giant loving GM traded away one of our better OF prospects for 3 fringe players. Not to mention losing our rookie starter (who was throwing filthy stuff) for the year to elbow injury. The past couple days have sucked royally.