Deadpool

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Venom was never a "good guy". He was a bad guy portrayed sympathetically. An anti-hero.

It's all about being able to show a character doing something which is ostensibly bad, but portray it in a sympathetic way. Of all genres, action and comedy are probably the easiest genres to do this in. Deadpool, if written well, should have no problem starring in a very funny action movie, even with him doing things which are more characteristic of "bad guys".

Yep and thats why it could be a hit and I hope it'll be a hit.

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Venom was never a "good guy". He was a bad guy portrayed sympathetically. An anti-hero.

It's all about being able to show a character doing something which is ostensibly bad, but portray it in a sympathetic way. Of all genres, action and comedy are probably the easiest genres to do this in. Deadpool, if written well, should have no problem starring in a very funny action movie, even with him doing things which are more characteristic of "bad guys".

I think you are on the money there. He can get away with doing bad things especially if he has something funny to say while doing them.

I wonder if they'll be able to make his mask smile at certain points, I always thought that was funny that he could do that and other faces (example)

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by vegeta88

I think you are on the money there. He can get away with doing bad things especially if he has something funny to say while doing them.

I wonder if they'll be able to make his mask smile at certain points, I always thought that was funny that he could do that and other faces (example)

That's just subtlety in the art. Design a proper mask (probably tight and thin) and instruct the actor in the mask to overact his facial responses and I think it'd show through.

The one thing they probably won't do is expressive eyes. The eyes on the mask will almost definitely be completely flat while in the comics they're expressive. But this is true of almost any comic or cartoon character in a mask. I think I read before they had even considered doing the live action Spider-man film with expressive eyes in the mask, but that was eventually decided against. Even Batman has this effect on comics and animation, which is probably why they redesigned the eye part of the costume for live action.

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

That's just subtlety in the art. Design a proper mask (probably tight and thin) and instruct the actor in the mask to overact his facial responses and I think it'd show through.

The one thing they probably won't do is expressive eyes. The eyes on the mask will almost definitely be completely flat while in the comics they're expressive. But this is true of almost any comic or cartoon character in a mask. I think I read before they had even considered doing the live action Spider-man film with expressive eyes in the mask, but that was eventually decided against. Even Batman has this effect on comics and animation, which is probably why they redesigned the eye part of the costume for live action.

I was thinking about the eye thing recently; that is too bad that it probably will not happen because it is a big part of the expression. It could possibly be done but probably not. I'd probably rather have the white eyes built in the mask rather than see his eyes. I wonder what they'll do with the costume in regards to realism; in MUA the costume is realistic with buttons and seems but I kind of hope they go with the impossible Spider-Man outfit (he can't really get into that, they have to sew it shut).

[DTBlack]

The way I see it a Deadpool movie would best be done utilizing multiple flashback sequences. We start the movie in the present day with Deadpool already established as the Deadpool you all know and love, and follow him through an adventure. Throughout the course of that story we'll flash back at times to Wade's past. In X-Men Origins we never find out anything about Wade or his back story, so there's plenty of room to expand on things. For instance why did he let Stryker turn him into Weapon XI in the first place? That's when we find out that sometime after the team breaks up Wade learns he has cancer. Stryker manipulates him into experimenting on him, claiming he can cure his cancer.

Then we find out how he gets from the end of X-Men Origins to where he is now. It won't be hard to write out the arm blades or optic blast (keep the teleportation since he actually uses teleporting devices in the comics). It's also easy to say that while Wolverine's healing factor worked well at first, his body starts to slowly have an adverse reaction to it, which causes him to eventually end up becoming disfigured. There's no need to reboot. Weapon XI was just the inbetween phase from Wade to Deadpool.

[supersix4]

yuck backstories suck lol
I just wan't his costume, killing, and bad jokes lol

[doctorD]

Originally Posted by DTBlack

The way I see it a Deadpool movie would best be done utilizing multiple flashback sequences. We start the movie in the present day with Deadpool already established as the Deadpool you all know and love, and follow him through an adventure. Throughout the course of that story we'll flash back at times to Wade's past. In X-Men Origins we never find out anything about Wade or his back story, so there's plenty of room to expand on things. For instance why did he let Stryker turn him into Weapon XI in the first place? That's when we find out that sometime after the team breaks up Wade learns he has cancer. Stryker manipulates him into experimenting on him, claiming he can cure his cancer.

Then we find out how he gets from the end of X-Men Origins to where he is now. It won't be hard to write out the arm blades or optic blast (keep the teleportation since he actually uses teleporting devices in the comics). It's also easy to say that while Wolverine's healing factor worked well at first, his body starts to slowly have an adverse reaction to it, which causes him to eventually end up becoming disfigured. There's no need to reboot. Weapon XI was just the inbetween phase from Wade to Deadpool.

I kind of like what you've stated here. Also, Wolverine backstory was kind of displayed in the first X-MEN movie and brought a little more to fruition in X-MEN 2. Obviously his full back story was on display in X-MEN Origins: Wolverine.

I also totally forgot about Deadpool's teleportation abilities. It was a mistake for them to give him blades that were internal...not even necessary. We'll see what they end up doing. I'm just excited that we will be getting a movie.

[sub-zero]

Originally Posted by supersix4

I just wan't his costume, killing, and bad jokes lol

+1

[Afrobean]

I like the idea of flash back storytelling for his "origin", but I don't want them alluding to the atrocities committed in Wolverine. Flashback to him working with Team X, flashback to him learning he has cancer and allowing experimentation, flashback to him becoming deformed by the healing factor, etc., but DON'T flash back to Weapon XI. Don't flashback to him recovering from

[Show spoiler]Wolverine decapitating him

, don't touch any of that bullcrap. Nothing that is Weapon XI should appear in this film unless it's a lampshade joke about how freaking stupid what happened there was. I'd love to see actors reprising roles from Wolverine where applicable, but they better not try to really explain how he changes from Weapon XI into proper Deadpool.

[Diesel]

They could always go The Incredible Hulk way of back story telling. It worked quite well for that movie.

Would that work for the character or is there too much to tell?

[Blu-Benny]

hasn't it been said that what happend in wolverine will not touch this movie at all??

[sub-zero]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

hasn't it been said that what happend in wolverine will not touch this movie at all??

Thought so, hope they stick to that.

[vegeta88]

Deadpool Movie Update
Producer on rebooting the merc with the mouth.

October 19, 2009 - Forget about what you saw in X-Men Origins: Wolverine. So says producer Lauren Shuler Donner.

In an interview with Empire Online, the X-Men series producer said her Deadpool spin-off will, as previously reported, reboot the character. "I want to ignore the version of Deadpool that we saw in Wolverine and just start over again. Reboot it," she explained. "Because this guy talks, obviously, and to muzzle him would be insane."

Shuler Donner said she sees no problem with Ryan Reynolds playing both Deadpool and the title role in Green Lantern, citing Harrison Ford as an actor who appeared in multiple franchises at the same time. She also confirmed that Deadpool will break the fourth wall in the movie, as Reynolds himself had previously suggested, although she wasn't too sure how much 20th Century Fox was going to let them get away with.

"It's going to be a dark, snarky, very funny movie. It's the hardest story to tell, I think. There's no clear cut villain -- though you do have great baddies from the comic-books like Black Tom, Slayback, Blind Al and the Weasel," she promised, adding, "We're right in the thick of talking to writers right now, and hopefully by November we'll have decided who's going to do it. We need someone really imaginative because we want to do some really innovative, ambitious stuff."

Glad to see a complete reboot (or whatever you want to call it).

[iori]

Originally Posted by vegeta88

Glad to see a complete reboot (or whatever you want to call it).

Me too, it's needed.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by vegeta88

Deadpool Movie Update
Producer on rebooting the merc with the mouth.

Glad to see a complete reboot (or whatever you want to call it).

I don't want to have to wait years to get the movie then wait another couple just to get into the actual character, I just hope he gets his suit early and like doesn't start wearing it right as it ends. Hopefully they give us a bit of good backstory but then quickly get into the actual character.

[vegeta88]

Deadpool on the Horizon
Also news on Green Lantern

MTV: Were you happy with the incarnation of Wade Wilson and Deadpool in "Wolverine"? Do you think you captured what you wanted to in the first look at Wade?

Reynolds: Yeah, I think the initial moment of the sequences that involve Wade, I think it did. It's always difficult to fully embrace something that isn't perfect, in terms of staying true to the source material. So it was a little bit frustrating. I really wanted to play Wade, and I really wanted to play Deadpool, and it would kill me to see someone else play them. I had a kind of ham-fisted attitude that it had to be perfect, but it doesn't. The movie's called "Wolverine," it's not called "Deadpool" or "Wade." I thought it was a nice little wink and tip of the hat to things to come. Finding the tone of that character alone is such a difficult prospect. I've been in so many meetings lately about "Deadpool" and meeting all these writers. Everyone is always looking for that one line, "What is that character?" and for me it's kind of like, "There's a guy, and he's in a highly militarized comedic fame spiral." That's not an easy thing to write -- an entire screenplay, let alone a franchise. I had a blast playing Wade. Every line I had in that was stuff I thought he would say. It wasn't something that a writer said to me. It was fun to really create that character, including everything he spits out of his awful mouth.

I think that is all he really says about our favorite Merc.

That is pretty much what I thought. His playing Deadpool in Wolverine was merely 'reserving' the spot for a full Deadpool movie.

[The Dragon]

Awesome. I don't know much about this character, however, he is cool.
Can anyone provide a little background on him? I saw Wolverine, but if they're going to reboot, that means a different origin story for him then-right?

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by The Dragon

Awesome. I don't know much about this character, however, he is cool.
Can anyone provide a little background on him? I saw Wolverine, but if they're going to reboot, that means a different origin story for him then-right?

Marvel Universe Bio
Wikipedia

If you do not want to read a ton I'll give you a mostly accurate short bit.
Deadpool is a mercinary for hire who has mutliple abilities including healing (Wolverine style), he is an expert with all weapons (guns, swords, etc.), and he is pretty much certifiably insane. He can also break the Fourth Wall (knows he is a comic book character).

IMO Ryan Reynolds played the character perfectly but the movie was not accurate to the character (ie no laser eyes) however he often has a teleportation device with him.

You should pick up some comics, Deadpool is one of my favorites

[Anthony P]

IMO Ryan Reynolds played the character perfectly but the movie was not accurate to the character (ie no laser eyes) however he often has a teleportation device with him.

I like to think that in the movie it was not Deadpool, in the way that the Phoenix is not Jean Grey. Yes they are the same person but not the same character. It is not part of the Marvel comics, but I reconcile both by assuming weapon XI is what Deadpool becomes


what I mean is something like: Wade gets Wolverines blood deal with cancer (which according to the comics is where his regenerative powers come from), incident in Wolverine happens and Logan leaves (what we saw in the movie), Meanwhile Wade becomes Deadpool and eventually others leave (in the movie Sabretooth and wade/Deadpool where the last two), Stryker decides that mutants can be useful but not predictable, decides to make super-controllable super-mutants, gets Deadpool to agree (I am assuming the controllable part would not be said), starts adding powers, decides that "unbreakable" would be good, experiments on wolverine (now we are back in the wolverine movie) first to make sure it will work and then tries it on Wade/Deadpool and weapon XI is born.

So in essence the "real" deadpool could exist with the story shown in Wolverine, it just happened between the two incidents (Logan left team X and became Wolverine). All we need to assume is that the comics never got to that part of his story.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I like to think that in the movie it was not Deadpool, in the way that the Phoenix is not Jean Grey. Yes they are the same person but not the same character. It is not part of the Marvel comics, but I reconcile both by assuming weapon XI is what Deadpool becomes


what I mean is something like: Wade gets Wolverines blood deal with cancer (which according to the comics is where his regenerative powers come from), incident in Wolverine happens and Logan leaves (what we saw in the movie), Meanwhile Wade becomes Deadpool and eventually others leave (in the movie Sabretooth and wade/Deadpool where the last two), Stryker decides that mutants can be useful but not predictable, decides to make super-controllable super-mutants, gets Deadpool to agree (I am assuming the controllable part would not be said), starts adding powers, decides that "unbreakable" would be good, experiments on wolverine (now we are back in the wolverine movie) first to make sure it will work and then tries it on Wade/Deadpool and weapon XI is born.

So in essence the "real" deadpool could exist with the story shown in Wolverine, it just happened between the two incidents (Logan left team X and became Wolverine). All we need to assume is that the comics never got to that part of his story.

I like it , it makes sense though.