Deadpool

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by danman227460

The main issue I think is that they don't want Reynolds to be in two competing franchises.

They're not competing franchises. One franchise is about a superhero who flies around space and fights aliens. The other is about an insane man who kills for money. One is an action-adventure about a space traveling do-gooder, the other is a action-comedy about a murderous lunatic.

They might have a heavy overlap in audience(the geek crowd), but they're not directly competing. They're two very different films.

If they do go ahead with Deadpool, there is a high chance GL2 or GL3 could be also in the works and might even be released in the same year. When was the last time an actor played two superheroes in a movie released in the same year?

Doesn't matter because DEADPOOL IS NOT A SUPERHERO. Holy crap.

And if he is? Ryan Reynolds played Wade Wilson in Wolverine and Captain Excellent in Paper Man both in 2009. Yeah. And going back to Chris Evans, The Losers and Scott Pilgrim are both 2010, TMNT and the Fantastic 4 sequel were both 2007. Not to mention Iron Man and Incredible Hulk both featuring Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark and they were released close enough together that they were both in the theater at the same time. You wanna talk about "direct competition", that's direct competition right there. And I assure you, a studio doesn't want to compete with itself any more than it wants to compete with other studios' films.

[danman227460]

OK I might have said it wrong as competing but right now Fox doesn't have many upcoming comic book movies except X Men and FF. DC is starting to ramp out its huge arsenal of comic book characters. I am merely saying they don't want viewers confusing the two franchises or neglecting one because Reynolds is in both of them.

So I was wrong in calling Deadpool a superhero so I will refer to him as a comic book character.

Again, I would say you do provide good examples for Evans but he plays in fairly unknown comic books outside of their fans. Same for Reynolds in Paper Man. I haven't even seen that movie yet.

The Losers: Not too many people realized it was a comic, I sure didn't until I looked it up
Scott Pilgram: Same thing. I know fans would recognize it
TMNT: He did the voice and was not live action
Iron Man/Hulk: Doesn't count as they are the same franchise, Robert played the same character in both. It isn't like he played the Hulk in one and Iron Man in the other.

Most of Evans roles are support roles, they don't have him front and center. Same with Reynolds. Green Lantern would be his first foray into a leading comic book character just like Captain America is Evan's first foray into a leading comic book character.

Right now, it is pure speculation that Reynolds has been canned from Deadpool. It could be false. All I am merely pointing is out I can see why a studio would want to can Reynolds. Would you want a star that would be splitting time between two franchises? With the amount of cross over opportunities and sequels, Reynolds can not possibly keep on playing both characters.

Originally Posted by Afrobean

They're not competing franchises. One franchise is about a superhero who flies around space and fights aliens. The other is about an insane man who kills for money. One is an action-adventure about a space traveling do-gooder, the other is a action-comedy about a murderous lunatic.

They might have a heavy overlap in audience(the geek crowd), but they're not directly competing. They're two very different films.


Doesn't matter because DEADPOOL IS NOT A SUPERHERO. Holy crap.

And if he is? Ryan Reynolds played Wade Wilson in Wolverine and Captain Excellent in Paper Man both in 2009. Yeah. And going back to Chris Evans, The Losers and Scott Pilgrim are both 2010, TMNT and the Fantastic 4 sequel were both 2007. Not to mention Iron Man and Incredible Hulk both featuring Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark and they were released close enough together that they were both in the theater at the same time. You wanna talk about "direct competition", that's direct competition right there. And I assure you, a studio doesn't want to compete with itself any more than it wants to compete with other studios' films.

[vegeta88]

danman227460, I see where you are going, but I can't imagine anyone who would NOT see one film because they saw the other. Unless Deadpool and a GL film open within a tight proximity to each other, ticket sales should not be affected. It is not like The Losers and The A-Team, similar enough concepts that people would choose one or the other rather than both.

Now if Ryan Reynolds was playing Flash in one movie and Quicksilver in another movie, I could see people getting a little confused. Deadpool and Green Lantern are different enough that ticket sales will not be affected. Plus, if the studios are smart, they will try and separate each big blockbuster as far apart as possible.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by danman227460

Not too many people realized it was a comic, I sure didn't until I looked it up

And why does it matter if it's based on a comic?

Think. Do you think actors give two craps about playing multiple characters who are sourced from comic books? Hell no. They might think twice if the characters exist in the same universe, but they don't care. It'd be like if Jack Nicholson had decided not to play Jack in The Shining in 1980 because he had previously been in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in 1975... both based on novels. Who cares? I'm sure he didn't. And I bet it never crossed his mind when he played a certain other character from a certain book later in 1989. I'm sure the studios didn't even bat an eye at it. Why do people care if actors play multiple characters that happen to be sourced from the same media? Do you think anyone thought Will Ferrel in Land of the Lost would confuse people who had previously seen him in Bewitched? Sure, they were both duds, but the point is that simply being sourced from the same kind of medium means NOTHING. How about when Robert Pattinson went from Cedric Diggory in Harry Potter to Edward in Twilight? Both based on books. You think anyone thought THAT was a bad idea?

Right now, it is pure speculation that Reynolds has been canned from Deadpool. It could be false.

It is false. Completely. The speculation is coming ENTIRELY from a person COMPLETELY unfamiliar with the film industry. Ryan Reynolds is on contract to play the character and has been instrumental to getting the Deadpool spin-off film as far along as it is.

Would you want a star that would be splitting time between two franchises?

Actors can appear in a few films each year. WB would have to get Ryan Reynolds on board with more than 3 films to permanently block him from being able to do Deadpool. And all they have is Green Lantern (which I think might be done filming already), Green Lantern 2, and Green Lantern 3. Outside chance on Justice League, but I honestly don't see that being ready before 2012, which is the year that Deadpool has been announced for. That's a total of 4 films at most, 1 of which is either done or almost done, and 2 of which will go by more quickly due to being shot back-to-back. But consider: if they start shooting 2 and 3 before Fox is ready to start shooting Deadpool, do you really think WB would have a Justice League film ready to start principle photography before Fox could be ready for Deadpool? Do you think WB would be stupid enough to rush Justice League to market just so that Ryan Reynolds wouldn't be able to film Deadpool until a few months later?

What's more likely? WB would ruin their films to selfishly keep Ryan Reynolds tied up for a few months to a little over a year? Or the ONE source, a man who works in the comic industry, would be COMPLETELY wrong in his speculation about the film industry, something any person who pays attention to the film industry would know instantly is wrong?

With the amount of cross over opportunities and sequels, Reynolds can not possibly keep on playing both characters.

Ugh.

Is Iron Man keeping Robert Downey Jr. from playing Sherlock Holmes or vice versa? No! You know why? Because there is enough time to act in multiple films! And bear in mind that Sherlock Holmes is at WB, and if WB was in the business of hogging actors stupidly, they'd probably just as likely want to hog Robert Downey Jr. But no one actually thinks. They see one ignorant person speculate on stuff they don't understand and assume that guy is right.

Seriously. Reynolds has a total of 9 films in varying stages of production, many of which are scheduled to come out over the next 2 years. And that's BEFORE imagining Green Lantern 2 and 3. Why do you think adding 2 films to his to-do list would bump Deadpool from being possible? If he DID need to bump projects, Deadpool would be the last one he'd do, I assure you. The guy is a big comic book fan and even before a Deadpool film was realistic, he was on record saying that Deadpool is his favorite character.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Is Iron Man keeping Robert Downey Jr. from playing Sherlock Holmes or vice versa? No!

Actually, Robert Downey Jr. was going to be in Cowboys and Aliens but Scheduling conflicts with Sherlock Holmes 2 meant he had to drop off and be replaced with Daniel Craig.

[danman227460]

The actors might not, if given a chance, I bet Reynolds would play Flash, Green Lantern, Deadpool and a lot of other characters if he were given the chance. It is the studio that in the end decides who gets what role. I am again saying that I see why the studio would be weary if they had to rely on Reynolds to carry a character when he could be devoted to another. How many times have you heard of an actor being cast for a movie and having to drop out due to scheduling conflicts?

I am again just saying with no actual film date for Deadpool, no idea to gauge the success of GL and other factors, it would be impossible to determine how much time and effort he would have to put into these movies. If GL is successful, a sequel could be greenlit in 2 years. Fox could greenlight a Deadpool movie in 2 years. It would be very difficult for him to keep up with filming two comic book character movies if they happen to clash.

An actor could have 20 movies but if they are all supporting roles and don't require the dedication that comes with being a lead in an action movie, he can do it.

In the end, it is the studio who decides what. Reynolds can beg, plea or whatever but if the studio feels they are being betrayed, wronged or he is wrong for the part, they will recast him. I point to Rhodes and Banner as two characters that have been recast.

Originally Posted by Afrobean

And why does it matter if it's based on a comic?

Think. Do you think actors give two craps about playing multiple characters who are sourced from comic books? Hell no. They might think twice if the characters exist in the same universe, but they don't care. It'd be like if Jack Nicholson had decided not to play Jack in The Shining in 1980 because he had previously been in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in 1975... both based on novels. Who cares? I'm sure he didn't. And I bet it never crossed his mind when he played a certain other character from a certain book later in 1989. I'm sure the studios didn't even bat an eye at it. Why do people care if actors play multiple characters that happen to be sourced from the same media? Do you think anyone thought Will Ferrel in Land of the Lost would confuse people who had previously seen him in Bewitched? Sure, they were both duds, but the point is that simply being sourced from the same kind of medium means NOTHING. How about when Robert Pattinson went from Cedric Diggory in Harry Potter to Edward in Twilight? Both based on books. You think anyone thought THAT was a bad idea?


It is false. Completely. The speculation is coming ENTIRELY from a person COMPLETELY unfamiliar with the film industry. Ryan Reynolds is on contract to play the character and has been instrumental to getting the Deadpool spin-off film as far along as it is.


Actors can appear in a few films each year. WB would have to get Ryan Reynolds on board with more than 3 films to permanently block him from being able to do Deadpool. And all they have is Green Lantern (which I think might be done filming already), Green Lantern 2, and Green Lantern 3. Outside chance on Justice League, but I honestly don't see that being ready before 2012, which is the year that Deadpool has been announced for. That's a total of 4 films at most, 1 of which is either done or almost done, and 2 of which will go by more quickly due to being shot back-to-back. But consider: if they start shooting 2 and 3 before Fox is ready to start shooting Deadpool, do you really think WB would have a Justice League film ready to start principle photography before Fox could be ready for Deadpool? Do you think WB would be stupid enough to rush Justice League to market just so that Ryan Reynolds wouldn't be able to film Deadpool until a few months later?

What's more likely? WB would ruin their films to selfishly keep Ryan Reynolds tied up for a few months to a little over a year? Or the ONE source, a man who works in the comic industry, would be COMPLETELY wrong in his speculation about the film industry, something any person who pays attention to the film industry would know instantly is wrong?


Ugh.

Is Iron Man keeping Robert Downey Jr. from playing Sherlock Holmes or vice versa? No! You know why? Because there is enough time to act in multiple films! And bear in mind that Sherlock Holmes is at WB, and if WB was in the business of hogging actors stupidly, they'd probably just as likely want to hog Robert Downey Jr. But no one actually thinks. They see one ignorant person speculate on stuff they don't understand and assume that guy is right.

Seriously. Reynolds has a total of 9 films in varying stages of production, many of which are scheduled to come out over the next 2 years. And that's BEFORE imagining Green Lantern 2 and 3. Why do you think adding 2 films to his to-do list would bump Deadpool from being possible? If he DID need to bump projects, Deadpool would be the last one he'd do, I assure you. The guy is a big comic book fan and even before a Deadpool film was realistic, he was on record saying that Deadpool is his favorite character.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Actually, Robert Downey Jr. was going to be in Cowboys and Aliens but Scheduling conflicts with Sherlock Holmes 2 meant he had to drop off and be replaced with Daniel Craig.

But has it stopped him from doing Iron Man or Avengers?

Yes, there is a threshold. An actor can't be in EVERY film. But Ryan Reynolds has every reason to do Deadpool compared to others that might be in the pipeline for him. He's already signed up for Deadpool and he loves the character. Why would he do Gunsmoke or some crap instead? Yeah, he might do a couple Green Lantern sequels first, but he'll still do Deadpool.

It is the studio that in the end decides who gets what role.

Reynolds is already signed for Deadpool. They'd have to buy him out if they want to recast. Sure, there are cases where the studio can decide to do this, but their star doing Green Lantern sequels back-to-back before Deadpool is even ready to start filming is not a good reason.

I am again just saying with no actual film date for Deadpool

It's been announced for a release in 2012. They don't have to start filming TOMORROW to get it done in time. They only just got a director on board apparently, and they're going to have to work around the director's schedule too. Look at other films earmarked for 2012. How many of them will be filming soon?

An actor could have 20 movies but if they are all supporting roles and don't require the dedication that comes with being a lead in an action movie, he can do it.

As was already pointed out, Deadpool is supposed to be wearing a full mask through most or all of the film. Ryan Reynolds could EASILY dub voice over for a lot of the film, and it would be precedented too, since almost the entire end of Wolverine had "Weapon XI" played by a stunt actor. Which, if you recall, was done because of scheduling conflicts. Which is exactly what people are claiming would be the case here, even though they could still easily fit filming in over the next year.

I point to Rhodes and Banner as two characters that have been recast.

These were both at Marvel Studios, neither were due to scheduling conflicts, and neither actor was signed on for additional films as far as I know. Deadpool is at Fox, and Ryan Reynolds is already on contract to play the character.

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

As was already pointed out, Deadpool is supposed to be wearing a full mask through most or all of the film. Ryan Reynolds could EASILY dub voice over for a lot of the film, and it would be precedented too, since almost the entire end of Wolverine had "Weapon XI" played by a stunt actor.

Yikes! Has that been discussed? That would be very disappointing to me. I think Ryan Reynolds is a good physical actor; I think we would lose out if he was not in the costume. I would actually be surprised if he allowed that. Obviously I don't expect him to be in the costume 100% of the film; I would guess stunt work from a stunt double would be necessary.

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by vegeta88

Yikes! Has that been discussed? That would be very disappointing to me. I think Ryan Reynolds is a good physical actor; I think we would lose out if he was not in the costume. I would actually be surprised if he allowed that. Obviously I don't expect him to be in the costume 100% of the film; I would guess stunt work from a stunt double would be necessary.

Just like the guy who played Spider-man opposite Tobey's Peter Parker.

Chris Daniels:

[nolfoc]

Chris Evans, was Human Torch and now Captain America, theres no reason why Reynolds shouldnt be Deadpool and Green Lantern, can we please just get a Deadpool movie in the works already!

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by GreenScar

Just like the guy who played Spider-man opposite Tobey's Peter Parker.

Chris Daniels:

http://www.anthonyplascencia.com/video/img/spidey.jpg

How much was he in the Spider-Man films? Just out of curiosity.

I think Ryan Reynolds could do a lot of the work himself, just judging from the sword-work in Wolverine and other films. Many actors can learn really complex stuff like Christian Bale for Batman. We don't need Deadpool doing all those flippy moves seen in Wolverine. I honestly felt like a lot of that was unnecessary.

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by vegeta88

How much was he in the Spider-Man films? Just out of curiosity.

I think Ryan Reynolds could do a lot of the work himself, just judging from the sword-work in Wolverine and other films. Many actors can learn really complex stuff like Christian Bale for Batman. We don't need Deadpool doing all those flippy moves seen in Wolverine. I honestly felt like a lot of that was unnecessary.

Well, any time his mask was on it was Daniels. With McGuire's voice over of course. So all the action scenes. The elevator scene in part 2.1 and such.

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by GreenScar

Well, any time his mask was on it was Daniels. With McGuire's voice over of course. So all the action scenes. The elevator scene in part 2.1 and such.

That is kind of weird. As I mentioned before, Reynolds tends to give a physical performance. I think him being in costume would make a difference. Also, as such a huge fan I would think he would want to play Deadpool as much as possible. I remember being disappointed when I found that Tobey McGuire mever read any Spider-Man comcis.

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by vegeta88

That is kind of weird. As I mentioned before, Reynolds tends to give a physical performance. I think him being in costume would make a difference. Also, as such a huge fan I would think he would want to play Deadpool as much as possible. I remember being disappointed when I found that Tobey McGuire mever read any Spider-Man comcis.

I was totally put off by the obvious difference between McGuire and Daniels (Body Language and such). Reynolds has the physic for the character; it would be a waste for him not to play as much of the part as possible.

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by GreenScar

I was totally put off by the obvious difference between McGuire and Daniels (Body Language and such). Reynolds has the physic for the character; it would be a waste for him not to play as much of the part as possible.

I have not watched those movies for a while so I will have to pay attention next time. I am glad you say that way about Reynolds; I agree, if that wasn't obvious at this point .

This is definitely one of my most anticipated comic book movies. For Now, I will just have to settle with Justsomerandomguy's videos with Deadpool.

[GreenScar]

Robert Rodriguez Still Contemplating Directing Deadpool!

Robert Rodriguez is reportedly still deciding on directing Deadpool.

Last week Rob Liefeld sent the Deadpool fan base into a backspin with his tweets regarding the much anticipated Deadpool film.

Now, John Horn for the LA Times Hero Complex is reporting that he talked with Robert Rodriguez on Monday and Rodriguez is still deciding on whether or not he will direct the Deadpool film. Roriguez has reportedly been in meetings with Twentieth Century Fox about directing and had this to say about the screenplay “It’s a great script and a great property."

This from Hero Complex...

Rodriguez, who just finished the final sound mix of "Machete," sounded gung ho about "Deadpool" but added that he is still debating his next project. “I’m just working everything out,” Rodriguez said, noting that he is choosing between three options for his next directing job. He said one is the long-discussed "Sin City 2" but he declined to name the other, though it could be "Nerveracker," a far-future thriller that was announced last year but hasn't moved as quickly as anticipated.

Hawksblueyes: Sounds like this movie may still happen. Less than a week ago people were thinking it was dead in the water.

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by GreenScar

Robert Rodriguez Still Contemplating Directing Deadpool!

Is there some way for a mass of fans to contact Rodriguez in order to force him to do it by popular vote?

Seriously though, this movie needs to get some traction. I think getting a director aboard would push the movie forward (not in a release date sense). Or maybe I am just dying for this movie to happen

Thanks for the news GS!

[walter stark]

After Spy Kids it will be either Sin City 2 or Deadpool, i think in general public more people want Sin City 2 (especially my bro) but i would love deadpool as the longer they leave it the more chance Ryan Renolds will leave.

i think they should have Deadpool in full costume as its one of the coolest costumes and theres no real reason not to as underneith its not a pretty picture, lol

[Diesel]

Lastly there’s some talk of Deadpool, which Donner says Ryan Reynolds has remained deeply involved in:

This subverts previous claims by Deadpool creator Rob Liefeld that the film was at risk due to Reynold’s casting in Green Lantern. In fact, Donner thinks Green Lantern can even help Deadpool.

Link

[Blu-Benny]

i'm really hoping this movie gets off the ground and gets rolling.