Deadpool

[Troll2fan]

Originally Posted by supersix4

Just that it would be equally absurd of me to write "You know I think Lamborghini should sell a few cars each year for 20,000 dollars so the average joe can get to experience what its like"

I'd be down for that.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

Y'see, here's the thing.... Maybe it isn't possible to edit this movie down, due to how much R-rated material it has weaved throughout and without it affecting the story and the movie as a whole, BUT the argument most people seem to have against me is more about me proposing such a thing, and that's just wrong. Really, it was only a theoretical suggestion and wishful thinking on my part, but all of these obsessive fanboys seem to be acting like I'm starting some sort of petition or crusade against Fox for making the movie rated R in the first place. Which was totally not the case, if you haven't been paying attention to my posts.

It's just funny how many times we so called adults have movies released in theaters and everyone hopes for some directors cut or unrated or extreme rated version of a movie with more of everything we didn't see, but we don't dare think about editing anything out or censoring for the sake of younger viewers. Again, this is all moot at this point, I just think people are weird to be acting so touchy about the suggestion, especially if they know it can't really happen.

People hope for unedited versions because they want to see what was originally intended. They don't want to see the dumbed down version. You're asking to see the dumbed down, not artistically relevant film. It was not made for your ten year old. Get over it.

You aren't asking for edits. You're asking for an entirely different artistic vision, one that isn't accurate to the source material or character, for the sake of being able to show it to your child. That IS being entitled. I don't see how you haven't gotten the message yet. It's pretty clear. Deadpool wasn't made for your ten year old. You can either wait, and have him watch it when he's older, or judge his personality and show it to him now. That is the way it is.

[Darkstream]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Get over it.

Oh, I am over it. I've been over it. It's everyone else who can't "get over" the idea of me even mentioning the hypothetical possibility of such a thing. Ridiculous? Absurd? Maybe. But I'll tell you what, if it was even possible, don't think Fox wouldn't have considered it, or didn't already, and don't think there wouldn't have been a lot more sales for a PG-13 version on Blu-ray or DVD when all the parents that would have liked to have watched it with their kid, or the soccer moms who were with their demanding kids saw it displayed at the supermarket.


I'm going to see the movie tonight -- I'm sure I'll enjoy it. Maybe I can make a mental note of some of the inappropriate stuff to better help me decide if my son can see it or not. A few curse words here or there is one thing, but if there actually is stuff like "pegging" going on, I might have to tell him to close his eyes on certain parts or just put the whole idea of him seeing it on a shelf for a couple more years along with the movie Ted and South Park.

[ThatOneGuy]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

Oh, I am over it. I've been over it. It's everyone else who can't "get over" the idea of me even mentioning the hypothetical possibility of such a thing. Ridiculous? Absurd? Maybe. But I'll tell you what, if it was even possible, don't think Fox wouldn't have considered it, or didn't already, and don't think there wouldn't have been a lot more sales for a PG-13 version on Blu-ray or DVD when all the parents that would have liked to have watched it with their kid, or the soccer moms who were with their demanding kids saw it displayed at the supermarket.


I'm going to see the movie tonight -- I'm sure I'll enjoy it. Maybe I can make a mental note of some of the inappropriate stuff to better help me decide if my son can see it or not. A few curse words here or there is one thing, but if there actually is stuff like "pegging" going on, I might have to tell him to close his eyes on certain parts or just put the whole idea of him seeing it on a shelf for a couple more years along with the movie Ted and South Park.

If you shelved Ted, you are going to shelve Deadpool.

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

Oh, I am over it. I've been over it. It's everyone else who can't "get over" the idea of me even mentioning the hypothetical possibility of such a thing. Ridiculous? Absurd? Maybe. But I'll tell you what, if it was even possible, don't think Fox wouldn't have considered it, or didn't already, and don't think there wouldn't have been a lot more sales for a PG-13 version on Blu-ray or DVD when all the parents that would have liked to have watched it with their kid, or the soccer moms who were with their demanding kids saw it displayed at the supermarket.


I'm going to see the movie tonight -- I'm sure I'll enjoy it. Maybe I can make a mental note of some of the inappropriate stuff to better help me decide if my son can see it or not. A few curse words here or there is one thing, but if there actually is stuff like "pegging" going on, I might have to tell him to close his eyes on certain parts or just put the whole idea of him seeing it on a shelf for a couple more years along with the movie Ted and South Park.

When you get the movie, rip it to iMovie and edit out all the bits you find offensive and don't want your child to see. It's not like they will notice clunky editing at that age.

[Darkstream]

Originally Posted by John Klein

If you shelved Ted, you are going to shelve Deadpool.

To be honest, I should probably reassess Ted. I haven't seen it in a while and when it came out, it was a definite NO for my son. But he's older and a lot more mature now, and he has been exposed to some things that some parents would deem inappropriate. It's not like he hasn't seen violence or gore or nudity before in a movie, or heard foul language, I just don't want it to be too excessive with the sexual situations or topics. He's definitely not ready for porn. He's seen some R movies, by the way -- Creepshow is one of his favorite movies.

Originally Posted by Impossible

When you get the movie, rip it to iMovie and edit out all the bits you find offensive and don't want your child to see. It's not like they will notice clunky editing at that age.

I actually considered that, but trust me, he'd notice. He's a bit of a film buff already.

[ThatOneGuy]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

To be honest, I should probably reassess Ted. I haven't seen it in a while and when it came out, it was a definite NO for my son. But he's older and a lot more mature now, and he has been exposed to some things that some parents would deem inappropriate. It's not like he hasn't seen violence or gore or nudity before in a movie, or heard foul language, I just don't want it to be too excessive with the sexual situations or topics. He's definitely not ready for porn. He's seen some R movies, by the way -- Creepshow is one of his favorite movies.

The only sex stuff that happens is with his girlfriend in the flashbacks. It brings to home how perfect she is for him, justifying why he loves her as much as he does and is willing to go through hell just to save her.

There are quite a few masturbation jokes and one scene of him under the cover though.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

Oh, I am over it. I've been over it. It's everyone else who can't "get over" the idea of me even mentioning the hypothetical possibility of such a thing. Ridiculous? Absurd? Maybe. But I'll tell you what, if it was even possible, don't think Fox wouldn't have considered it, or didn't already, and don't think there wouldn't have been a lot more sales for a PG-13 version on Blu-ray or DVD when all the parents that would have liked to have watched it with their kid, or the soccer moms who were with their demanding kids saw it displayed at the supermarket.


I'm going to see the movie tonight -- I'm sure I'll enjoy it. Maybe I can make a mental note of some of the inappropriate stuff to better help me decide if my son can see it or not. A few curse words here or there is one thing, but if there actually is stuff like "pegging" going on, I might have to tell him to close his eyes on certain parts or just put the whole idea of him seeing it on a shelf for a couple more years along with the movie Ted and South Park.

And you continue to not address all the valid reasons WHY everyone is calling you out on this BS.

[Darkstream]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

And you continue to not address all the valid reasons WHY everyone is calling you out on this BS.

What? The only ONLY two valid reason people are calling me out on this is because 1) the movie is supposedly too extreme to be cut down without it damaging the story (which may be true), 2) they feel Deadpool is strictly an R-rated character and can only be treated as such (which is not true). I addressed both these reasons, what else did I not address that you consider valid?

As a matter of fact, don't answer that. I said all I have to say about the topic and spent too much time on this as it is. Go back and read all my posts or go read some Deadpool comics, either way, don't engage me anymore. I have an opinion and you just want to fight.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

What? The only ONLY two valid reason people are calling me out on this is because 1) the movie is supposedly too extreme to be cut down without it damaging the story (which may be true), 2) they feel Deadpool is strictly an R-rated character and can only be treated as such (which is not true). I addressed both these reasons, what else did I not address that you consider valid?

As a matter of fact, don't answer that. I said all I have to say about the topic and spent too much time on this as it is. Go back and read all my posts or go read some Deadpool comics, either way, don't engage me anymore. I have an opinion and you just want to fight.

You're arguing about a films content without even watching the film. You're also arguing that it should be cut down simply because "fox would make more money". Which you have no legitimate proof of. Deadpool HAS existed in more child friendly environments. But guess what? None of those stories were explicitly HIS stories. A cameo in an animated film is fine. There are no kid friendly Deadpool centric tv shows or animated films. There are no story based games about Deadpool that are child friendly.

Deadpool as a character exists as an adult entity. He was created by adults, for adults. He swears. He has gratuitous sex. He slices people into pieces. That is who Deadpool is. You can cut him down to have small roles in other films. But in HIS film he should represent exactly what he is. The ONLY reason you give a crap is because he's a super hero. If this was a mob film you wouldn't think twice. It's just the same principal. A character in a mob film can cameo in anything, with any rating. Yet when it is HIS film? He should be an R rated mobster, because that's who he is. Denying that is denying the nature of the character.

You didn't start lambasting Watchmen for being rated R. You aren't going after the two kick ass films. You aren't exclaiming that the punisher shouldn't be allowed to blow people's heads off. Yet here you are, vehemently pursuing the idea that Deadpool should be PG-13. Why? Because you want your kid to watch it. That is the ONLY reason you have. Making more money? It's already made more than ANY of the pg-13 x-men films, because the ADULTS who this film is made for went to see it. That is its audience. It is a film made BY adults FOR adults. That is the reason people are so against you. It has nothing to do with wanting to fight. It ha to do with you not giving a rats ass about creative and artistic vision, and fighting to boil the film down to be consumed by as many people as possible. No one wants to hear that crap on a forum for film enthusiasts.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

You're arguing about a films content without even watching the film. You're also arguing that it should be cut down simply because "fox would make more money". Which you have no legitimate proof of. Deadpool HAS existed in more child friendly environments. But guess what? None of those stories were explicitly HIS stories. A cameo in an animated film is fine. There are no kid friendly Deadpool centric tv shows or animated films. There are no story based games about Deadpool that are child friendly.

Deadpool as a character exists as an adult entity. He was created by adults, for adults. He swears. He has gratuitous sex. He slices people into pieces. That is who Deadpool is. You can cut him down to have small roles in other films. But in HIS film he should represent exactly what he is. The ONLY reason you give a crap is because he's a super hero. If this was a mob film you wouldn't think twice. It's just the same principal. A character in a mob film can cameo in anything, with any rating. Yet when it is HIS film? He should be an R rated mobster, because that's who he is. Denying that is denying the nature of the character.

You didn't start lambasting Watchmen for being rated R. You aren't going after the two kick ass films. You aren't exclaiming that the punisher shouldn't be allowed to blow people's heads off. Yet here you are, vehemently pursuing the idea that Deadpool should be PG-13. Why? Because you want your kid to watch it. That is the ONLY reason you have. Making more money? It's already made more than ANY of the pg-13 x-men films, because the ADULTS who this film is made for went to see it. That is its audience. It is a film made BY adults FOR adults. That is the reason people are so against you. It has nothing to do with wanting to fight. It has to do with you not giving a rats ass about creative and artistic vision, and fighting to boil the film down to be consumed by as many people as possible. No one wants to hear that crap on a forum for film enthusiasts.

Wow! Spot on! Somebody make this man a chimi-f@ckin-changa!!!

[GorillaGuy]

Some of you are taking this way too personal damn

[Darkstream]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

You're arguing about a films content without even watching the film. You're also arguing that it should be cut down simply because "fox would make more money". Which you have no legitimate proof of. Deadpool HAS existed in more child friendly environments. But guess what? None of those stories were explicitly HIS stories. A cameo in an animated film is fine. There are no kid friendly Deadpool centric tv shows or animated films. There are no story based games about Deadpool that are child friendly.

Deadpool as a character exists as an adult entity. He was created by adults, for adults. He swears. He has gratuitous sex. He slices people into pieces. That is who Deadpool is. You can cut him down to have small roles in other films. But in HIS film he should represent exactly what he is. The ONLY reason you give a crap is because he's a super hero. If this was a mob film you wouldn't think twice. It's just the same principal. A character in a mob film can cameo in anything, with any rating. Yet when it is HIS film? He should be an R rated mobster, because that's who he is. Denying that is denying the nature of the character.

You didn't start lambasting Watchmen for being rated R. You aren't going after the two kick ass films. You aren't exclaiming that the punisher shouldn't be allowed to blow people's heads off. Yet here you are, vehemently pursuing the idea that Deadpool should be PG-13. Why? Because you want your kid to watch it. That is the ONLY reason you have. Making more money? It's already made more than ANY of the pg-13 x-men films, because the ADULTS who this film is made for went to see it. That is its audience. It is a film made BY adults FOR adults. That is the reason people are so against you. It has nothing to do with wanting to fight. It ha to do with you not giving a rats ass about creative and artistic vision, and fighting to boil the film down to be consumed by as many people as possible. No one wants to hear that crap on a forum for film enthusiasts.

I respect all that, and I appreciate you finally giving a post where you address your opinion, without coming off so much like a jerk and judging me for mine, even if you don't agree with me.

But we'll just have to agree to disagree. Because Deadpool may be more popular amongst adults, but he is not limited to just adults -- he was not created by an adult for adults. He was created by Rob Liefeld in a comic book that was pretty much all ages. he was not as extreme as he is today, but regardless, he is still not limited to that extreme level today. Unlike Watchmen and the Punisher, which you use in comparison, kids today know who the heck Deadpool is. And that is why I felt like Fox was short sighted in only making one cut of the film.

Maybe I am using Deadpool as an example of a film that may have been better served with having two separate cuts, because I personally have a son that would like to see it (and I'm obviously not the only one, if there is this much controversy on the internet), but the reason I did suggest Deadpool over Watchmen and The Punisher was because of the exposure Marvel has given to Deadpool as a character to kids and how that interest in kids is high with the character, and not just my kid.

BUT I never said the movie should have been made as a PG-13 movie to begin with. I actually prefer it to be an R-rated movie. AGAIN, what I said was that I think if it could have been possible they should have tried to do a second censored cut, IF POSSIBLE. I think it would have been an interesting experiment to see regardless of having a kid.

I never said the movie was shit because it was an R rating. I never said I was boycotting it. I never started or signed a petition to get a kid-friendly cut made. And I never took my kid to see it and complained that it was inappropriate for him and that it shouldn't have been.

You obsessive fanatical Deadpool movie fans are just too fricken defensive against me for just suggesting something, as if it threatened the integrity of the film. I was once told to grow a thicker skin because of something I took offensive that was said to me, and yet almost everyone here that doesn't agree with my suggestion has met me with hostility because of it. It is they who should grow a thicker skin and realize they do not own the character. It they who should stop acting entitled, especially when regarding a movie based on a comic book character that has been interpreted several ways throughout the the past 25 years or so. You need to realize people have views or opinions that may differ from your own, and it's about how you respond to them that make the difference in how they view you.

[dubious]

Originally Posted by spanky87

The only way this film should exist is with Deadpool getting pegged by Morena Baccarin.

She does go by "method acting" if it comes to dating and getting knocked up by your screen love on Gotham. Maybe Ryan Reynolds did get a butt slam.

[TommySyk]

For god's sake, are we really still talking about this?

ACCEPT IT, the film is Rated-R and it's not appropriate for kids, and that'll never change. That's the film EVERYONE wanted three years ago and fortunately that's the one we got. Three years ago we were all basically begging Fox to make an R-Rated Deadpool movie. There will be no PG-13 cut, nor will there be one for future films. Are we really gonna keep on discussing the exact same thing using the exact same arguments?

[solarrdadd]

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by TommySyk

are we really still talking about this?

so.... I really enjoyed the movies, although I could have done with the sexual content. I really enjoyed the comedy and the fourth wall breaking. This is one of the few movies that breaks the 4th wall, that I was not annoyed by it.

I hope I can find a steelbook of this release!

[ThatOneGuy]

Originally Posted by cvm

so.... I really enjoyed the movies, although I could have done with the sexual content. I really enjoyed the comedy and the fourth wall breaking. This is one of the few movies that breaks the 4th wall, that I was not annoyed by it.

I hope I can find a steelbook of this release!

I'm going for its 4K release.

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by John Klein

I'm going for its 4K release.

Maybe a 4k Steelbook?!?!?!?!

[Darkstream]

Originally Posted by TommySyk

For god's sake, are we really still talking about this?

ACCEPT IT, the film is Rated-R and it's not appropriate for kids, and that'll never change. That's the film EVERYONE wanted three years ago and fortunately that's the one we got. Three years ago we were all basically begging Fox to make an R-Rated Deadpool movie. There will be no PG-13 cut, nor will there be one for future films. Are we really gonna keep on discussing the exact same thing using the exact same arguments?

It's always funny when a discussion has been going on for a while, and then it finally starts to move to a point of closure, but then someone comes in at the last minute, throwing their own disparaging 2¢ in, which what really keeps it going.

I'll tell you what people need to ACCEPT --- other people having opinions that may differ than their own.