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Old 03-03-2016, 08:07 PM   #3921
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so with the all Oscar wins, will that convince Warner Bros. to make the sequel?
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so with the all Oscar wins, will that convince Warner Bros. to make the sequel?
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Old 03-03-2016, 08:13 PM   #3923
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so with the all Oscar wins, will that convince Warner Bros. to make the sequel?
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:46 PM   #3924
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Warner Bros.? The f**k?
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:52 PM   #3925
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I think he's got confused with Mad Max and posted in the wrong thread.
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:57 PM   #3926
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For god's sake, are we really still talking about this?

ACCEPT IT, the film is Rated-R and it's not appropriate for kids, and that'll never change. That's the film EVERYONE wanted three years ago and fortunately that's the one we got. Three years ago we were all basically begging Fox to make an R-Rated Deadpool movie. There will be no PG-13 cut, nor will there be one for future films. Are we really gonna keep on discussing the exact same thing using the exact same arguments?
Annnd to anyone still *****ing about wanting a kiddy version for rugrats... here! Let them watch this
and tell'em its Deadpool, they'll be none the wiser and its got Hulk and Captain America in it too
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:16 AM   #3927
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I've finally watched the movie.
I didn't believe the hype so much, I wasn't so willing to embrace it, and I was just thinking everyone was having a weird mass hallucination, despite this is a movie related to X-MEN and I'm the author of an X-Men Fan Website and I would be supposed to praise for it, no matter what... so I was 100% sceptical.

Fact is, I was wrong to not believe. DEADPOOL is a fresh and unique movie, an original and outstanding superhero action movie full of passion, BRAIN, energy, cinematic love, pop culture and BALANCE. Yes, because you need balance to make it work. You need pacing and timing. This is part of the genius... and DEADPOOL screams genius from every, and I say every cell of its celluloid body.

It's just a vivid, breathing and intense movie - funny as hell, brutal as hell and engaging/challenging. Ryan is just brilliant, he deserves even more praise than he's getting.

10/10. Not better than DOFP or X2, but I would say that it's like comparing apples to potatoes.

Just one issue: the happy ending. I'm not sold on that. Maybe it's just me. I was expecting a less predictable ending. Or maybe a more epic one.

About the character, I have a personal theory:

It seems like his disfigurement is a side-effect of the triggered mutation, not the cancer itself. He states he "has healed from El Cancer". Plus, Francis/Ajax explained him that it was a collateral aspect, but the cancer has been cured anyway and he's immortal or so.
So I would suppose it is part of his mutation - like Angel's wings - and not the cancer being "regenerated" constantly like the comic book counterpart.

By the way, maybe the FUNNIEST cinematic experience I have ever had. Big laughs and BRAIN working full non-stop.
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Old 03-04-2016, 01:43 AM   #3928
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Saw it and loved it. I'd give it 4 out 5 stars. It's a different kind of movie than the other X-Men films, that's for sure, but if I had to compare, I still like X2, First Class, and DoFP more. I'd probably rank it on the same level as The Wolverine, although not in the same way at all. Let's see how many punches people throw at me for saying that. I enjoyed it very much, so I'll leave it at that.
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Old 03-04-2016, 01:44 AM   #3929
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Saw it and loved it. I'd give it 4 out 5 stars. It's a different kind of movie than the other X-Men films, that's for sure, but if I had to compare, I still like X2, First Class, and DoFP more. I'd probably rank it on the same level as The Wolverine, although not in the same way at all. Let's see how many punches people throw at me for saying that. I enjoyed it very much, so I'll leave it at that.
So shelving or not?
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Old 03-04-2016, 01:58 AM   #3930
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So shelving or not?
There was so much going on, and I really just wanted to allow myself to relax and enjoy it without making a censorship checklist, so I tried not to get too hung up about it. In the end, I think I will allow my son to see it when it comes out on blu-ray, under my supervision of course, and with some minor ear muffling and eye covering during certain scenes. I'm pretty sure some of the verbal jokes may just fly over his head, though, so it's some of the visual stuff (like the pegging) I'm concerned with. The gore and violence are okay, though -- he'll love that.
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:15 AM   #3931
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I've finally watched the movie.
I didn't believe the hype so much, I wasn't so willing to embrace it, and I was just thinking everyone was having a weird mass hallucination, despite this is a movie related to X-MEN and I'm the author of an X-Men Fan Website and I would be supposed to praise for it, no matter what... so I was 100% sceptical.

Fact is, I was wrong to not believe. DEADPOOL is a fresh and unique movie, an original and outstanding superhero action movie full of passion, BRAIN, energy, cinematic love, pop culture and BALANCE. Yes, because you need balance to make it work. You need pacing and timing. This is part of the genius... and DEADPOOL screams genius from every, and I say every cell of its celluloid body.

It's just a vivid, breathing and intense movie - funny as hell, brutal as hell and engaging/challenging. Ryan is just brilliant, he deserves even more praise than he's getting.

10/10. Not better than DOFP or X2, but I would say that it's like comparing apples to potatoes.

Just one issue: the happy ending. I'm not sold on that. Maybe it's just me. I was expecting a less predictable ending. Or maybe a more epic one.

About the character, I have a personal theory:

It seems like his disfigurement is a side-effect of the triggered mutation, not the cancer itself. He states he "has healed from El Cancer". Plus, Francis/Ajax explained him that it was a collateral aspect, but the cancer has been cured anyway and he's immortal or so.
So I would suppose it is part of his mutation - like Angel's wings - and not the cancer being "regenerated" constantly like the comic book counterpart.


By the way, maybe the FUNNIEST cinematic experience I have ever had. Big laughs and BRAIN working full non-stop.
No wonder your timeline is nonsense. You can't even get the spoonfed facts about this film correct.

The disfigurement is a side effect of that chamber that he was put in over the weekend. The damage done to his body at a cellular level from oxygen deprevation is what causes that to happen. IF it were a side effect due to his mutation, they'd have to cure his mutation entirely in order to get rid of it.

Glad you enjoyed it that much otherwise though.
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:35 AM   #3932
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I've finally watched the movie.
I didn't believe the hype so much, I wasn't so willing to embrace it, and I was just thinking everyone was having a weird mass hallucination, despite this is a movie related to X-MEN and I'm the author of an X-Men Fan Website and I would be supposed to praise for it, no matter what... so I was 100% sceptical.

Fact is, I was wrong to not believe. DEADPOOL is a fresh and unique movie, an original and outstanding superhero action movie full of passion, BRAIN, energy, cinematic love, pop culture and BALANCE. Yes, because you need balance to make it work. You need pacing and timing. This is part of the genius... and DEADPOOL screams genius from every, and I say every cell of its celluloid body.

It's just a vivid, breathing and intense movie - funny as hell, brutal as hell and engaging/challenging. Ryan is just brilliant, he deserves even more praise than he's getting.

10/10. Not better than DOFP or X2, but I would say that it's like comparing apples to potatoes.

Just one issue: the happy ending. I'm not sold on that. Maybe it's just me. I was expecting a less predictable ending. Or maybe a more epic one.

About the character, I have a personal theory:

It seems like his disfigurement is a side-effect of the triggered mutation, not the cancer itself. He states he "has healed from El Cancer". Plus, Francis/Ajax explained him that it was a collateral aspect, but the cancer has been cured anyway and he's immortal or so.
So I would suppose it is part of his mutation - like Angel's wings - and not the cancer being "regenerated" constantly like the comic book counterpart.

By the way, maybe the FUNNIEST cinematic experience I have ever had. Big laughs and BRAIN working full non-stop.
and thank you for not trying to connect it to Wolverine Origins....yet.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:13 AM   #3933
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You're arguing about a films content without even watching the film. You're also arguing that it should be cut down simply because "fox would make more money". Which you have no legitimate proof of. Deadpool HAS existed in more child friendly environments. But guess what? None of those stories were explicitly HIS stories. A cameo in an animated film is fine. There are no kid friendly Deadpool centric tv shows or animated films. There are no story based games about Deadpool that are child friendly.

Deadpool as a character exists as an adult entity. He was created by adults, for adults. He swears. He has gratuitous sex. He slices people into pieces. That is who Deadpool is. You can cut him down to have small roles in other films. But in HIS film he should represent exactly what he is. The ONLY reason you give a crap is because he's a super hero. If this was a mob film you wouldn't think twice. It's just the same principal. A character in a mob film can cameo in anything, with any rating. Yet when it is HIS film? He should be an R rated mobster, because that's who he is. Denying that is denying the nature of the character.

You didn't start lambasting Watchmen for being rated R. You aren't going after the two kick ass films. You aren't exclaiming that the punisher shouldn't be allowed to blow people's heads off. Yet here you are, vehemently pursuing the idea that Deadpool should be PG-13. Why? Because you want your kid to watch it. That is the ONLY reason you have. Making more money? It's already made more than ANY of the pg-13 x-men films, because the ADULTS who this film is made for went to see it. That is its audience. It is a film made BY adults FOR adults. That is the reason people are so against you. It has nothing to do with wanting to fight. It ha to do with you not giving a rats ass about creative and artistic vision, and fighting to boil the film down to be consumed by as many people as possible. No one wants to hear that crap on a forum for film enthusiasts.
You are bringing up some good points but these points dont apply to what Darkstream is getting at. To think that Deadpool is an only adult character for adults is closedminded. Very simply:
1. Deadpool can be in a PG rated movie/show/book without downgrading his character
2. Watchmen the movie is based on a graphic novel. Deadpool the movie is not based on any graphic novel - just an interpretation of his origin. His origin - cancer, experimentation and superpowers - can be conveyed in PG material
3. To think that adult matter can only exist in an R-rated form is total disrespect to at least 50 years of film before the existence of the R rating. There has been censorship forever but it didnt stop great filmmakers and writers from making adult-oriented films that kids could watch today - movies about violent criminals, murderers and mafia - majority being re-rated as PG if released today. Check out the films from the 1940s to 1950s and be surprised how good filmmakers/writers were able to be creative with censorship rules.

Still no one answered my question about early Deadpool Marvel comics (that an old child or teen would read) in the 1990s - was his character awesome then or was it awful?

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Old 03-04-2016, 04:26 AM   #3934
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For god's sake, are we really still talking about this?

ACCEPT IT, the film is Rated-R and it's not appropriate for kids, and that'll never change. That's the film EVERYONE wanted three years ago and fortunately that's the one we got. Three years ago we were all basically begging Fox to make an R-Rated Deadpool movie. There will be no PG-13 cut, nor will there be one for future films. Are we really gonna keep on discussing the exact same thing using the exact same arguments?


Heaven's man, chill out. Don't take it so personally that people are crying about the rating.

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No wonder your timeline is nonsense. You can't even get the spoonfed facts about this film correct.

The disfigurement is a side effect of that chamber that he was put in over the weekend. The damage done to his body at a cellular level from oxygen deprevation is what causes that to happen. IF it were a side effect due to his mutation, they'd have to cure his mutation entirely in order to get rid of it.

Glad you enjoyed it that much otherwise though.
My successful website has tons of fans out there, so I did a great work while trying to "fix" an otherwise messy and bad continuity. There's no reason for you to be "angry". I'm just pretending this Wade is the son of the Origins Wade. You, know, AGE.

PLUS, I watched the Italian dubbed version of the movie, I didn't get the "FACTS" straight from the original screenplay, but from a dubbed version with (MAYBE) some errors/passages lost in translation.

I like your theory about oxygen deprevation, but why didn't his power FIX that as well like it did for the cancer? FROM THE ITALIAN VERSION, I don't remember Francis Freeman hinting at the chamber as factual reason of the disfigurement, but the ITALIAN VERSION could be wrong, of course.

(maybe his mutant power was triggered right after the disfigurement... that's the only logic explanation...)

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About the character, I have a personal theory:

It seems like his disfigurement is a side-effect of the triggered mutation, not the cancer itself. He states he "has healed from El Cancer". Plus, Francis/Ajax explained him that it was a collateral aspect, but the cancer has been cured anyway and he's immortal or so.
So I would suppose it is part of his mutation - like Angel's wings - and not the cancer being "regenerated" constantly like the comic book counterpart.

By the way, maybe the FUNNIEST cinematic experience I have ever had. Big laughs and BRAIN working full non-stop.
his mutation is the ability to heal.......his disfigurement is a side-effect from the chamber.

pretty sure i remember Ajax saying he'll be able to cure the cancer as fast as his body can produce it.

so he wasn't cured of his cancer......his body continuously heals it.

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My successful website has tons of fans out there, so I did a great work while trying to "fix" an otherwise messy and bad continuity. There's no reason for you to be "angry". I'm just pretending this Wade is the son of the Origins Wade. You, know, AGE.

PLUS, I watched the Italian dubbed version of the movie, I didn't get the "FACTS" straight from the original screenplay, but from a dubbed version with (MAYBE) some errors/passages lost in translation.

I like your theory about oxygen deprevation, but why didn't his power FIX that as well like it did for the cancer? FROM THE ITALIAN VERSION, I don't remember Francis Freeman hinting at the chamber as factual reason of the disfigurement, but the ITALIAN VERSION could be wrong, of course.

(maybe his mutant power was triggered right after the disfigurement... that's the only logic explanation...)
Ajax told him there are always side-effects from trying to unlock a persons mutation.

also...you pretending this Wade is the son of Origins Wade doesn't hold any truth to it. there's absolutely nothing in this movie that supports that theory.
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his mutation is the ability to heal.......his disfigurement is a side-effect from the chamber.
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It's fine. I'm just trying to understand why his regenerative powers don't regenerate his skin from monster to human. Maybe because his "default mode" has been "registered" by his powers after the disfigurement. So his regenerative factor considers the disfigurement as his "default mode", if you know what I mean.

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also...you pretending this Wade is the son of Origins Wade doesn't hold any truth to it. there's absolutely nothing in this movie that supports that theory.
I know. It's a theory of mine. If you come up with something better, I'll put that on my site and give you credit. I mean: 2016 Wade is not a mutant at the start of the movie, and he's 35 (I think).


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If it's because the chamber (oxygen deprivation), than why he called it "side-effect" of the mutation? They are two different things. I vote for the latter, since the former would kill him even before the mutation would trigger.

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If people want an edited PG-13 version of Deadpool for their kids, how about an NC-17 version of the new Power Rangers movie for me then. Or maybe Inside Out. You should hear what the characters in my head really say.
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It's fine. I'm just trying to understand why his regenerative powers don't regenerate his skin. Maybe because his "default mode" has been "registered" by his powers after the disfigurement. So his regenerative factor considers the disfigurement as his "default mode", if you know what I mean.
That's actually a very good point, and a reasonable explanation

BTW, why did you watch the italian dubbed version? I hate watching dubbed films, and as you and me both understand english more than well, I'd say there's even a lot of jokes that get lost in the subtitles, so it's crucial to listen to the original language.
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That's actually a very good point, and a reasonable explanation

BTW, why did you watch the italian dubbed version? I hate watching dubbed films, and as you and me both understand english more than well, I'd say there's even a lot of jokes that get lost in the subtitles, so it's crucial to listen to the original language.
I'm Italian. I went to my local theatre and watched the movie.

Expanding my point:

The oxygen deprivation ruined his organism and disfigured him, and at the VERY same time his regeneration power "awoke". Fact is, his power "registered" his disfigured form as the "default" to come back to, no matter what.
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