Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Hardback247]

Do any of you have any arguments when people say that The Force Awakens added absolutely nothing to the Star Wars universe?

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

Do any of you have any arguments when people say that The Force Awakens added absolutely nothing to the Star Wars universe?

Do you have anything better to do than asking TFA questions and getting mad when people didn't love the movie, JJ?

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Do you have anything better to do than asking TFA questions and getting mad when people didn't love the movie, JJ?

I AM NOT JJ ABRAMS!!!

This is me: http://www.hardbackyoyo.com/

[ElvisForever]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

Do any of you have any arguments when people say that The Force Awakens added absolutely nothing to the Star Wars universe?

I don't. While TFA is not worth the hype, it still is a fun movie to me. I hope the next entry has more depth.
I think that the film has its fans and to just keep crapping on its problems is to disregard the people that do care about the film.

A Star Wars entry is like pizza. Even when it is not as good I will still eat it up.

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Do you have anything better to do than asking TFA questions and getting mad when people didn't love the movie, JJ?

Classic!

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Metal doesn't burn very well

I gotta admit that I missed it when I saw it. Maybe it is all the plastic helmets I had through he years,and assuming vader would have something light for his head. A metal helmet all the time would be ass.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by ElvisForever

A Star Wars entry is like pizza. Even when it is not as good I will still eat it up.

Good analogy.

[Geoff D]

The prequels are like a Hawaiian pizza, I'll eat it but I'll moan about the pineapple all day long. That said, at least I can pick the pineapple off on an actual pizza but I can't do the same with the prequels, sadly.

[ElvisForever]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The prequels are like a Hawaiian pizza, I'll eat it but I'll moan about the pineapple all day long. That said, at least I can pick the pineapple off on an actual pizza but I can't do the same with the prequels, sadly.

Not following you can not eat the pizza ever again but why bemoan the people that do? Even those that say like pineapple better aren't nearly as vocal about disregarding the classic styles. If the prequels are pineapple, than TFA is a cheap "gourmet" grocery store bought style. Sure the box picture looks great, but in the end it is still a frozen knockoff....but I still eat frozen!

Let's lighten this up for a second. Haven't see Rogue yet. I plan to today (no spoilers please)

Just got the SilverScreen edition. I am so stoked and have some BD-R coming in today.

Will Rogue tie in beautifully, or is it best to treat the original Star Wars to its own masterpiece state?

[mredman]

Originally Posted by ElvisForever

Not following you can not eat the pizza ever again but why bemoan the people that do? Even those that say like pineapple better aren't nearly as vocal about disregarding the classic styles. If the prequels are pineapple, than TFA is a cheap "gourmet" grocery store bought style. Sure the box picture looks great, but in the end it is still a frozen knockoff....but I still eat frozen!

Let's lighten this up for a second. Haven't see Rogue yet. I plan to today (no spoilers please)

Just got the SilverScreen edition. I am so stoked and have some BD-R coming in today.

Will Rogue tie in beautifully, or is it best to treat the original Star Wars to its own masterpiece state?

It ties in beautifully

My ranking

Empire
Hope
Jedi
Rogue
Sith
Awakens
Clones
Phantom

[fontcow]

Originally Posted by Alan_Grant

Obi-Wan also just finished fighting a bunch of bigass monsters and an arena battle, so in addition to a deep slash in his leg, was also probably exhausted.

Originally Posted by MasturB

Was also tortured starved and held captive before the arena.

And Kylo just

[Show spoiler]committed patricide

so don't think that didn't screw with his head at least a little bit. "What have I done?"

I'm just having fun with the thread. After all, these are just movies. How much stuff in our real lives make absolute sense with thread-like precision of continuity?

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by happydood

I think George Lucas deals in very broad archetypes & myths. He clearly doesn't care about logic so much as throwing in everything he'd like to see in a movie. I, for one, am all for his approach even when he completely and utterly misses the mark of his aim. It's still charming to me. To be bothered with the 'died of a broken heart' business is to kind of totally misread what he's attempting to do. It doesn't need to make logical sense in the context of the movie. It needs to make emotional/poetic sense. You can argue that it doesn't even achieve that, but that's another issue...

In line with this, to try and pin down logic to any character motivations, particularly C-3PO- who is part Stan Laurel and part Kurosawa peasant- and not see him as the more human than human worry-wart that his is, is to totally miss the joy of the character.

The Padme dying scene could definitely have been handled better, but overall I agree that George Lucas is more of an abstract visual filmmaker.
Also, she got the BEST funeral scene of all times. Just hauntingly beautiful, epic and sad.

Originally Posted by MasturB

Just buying Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith on DVD were as great as buying cool sets.

Indeed. ROTS was the last DVD I bought, save for some stuff that was either shot on video, or will no likely ever make it to BD.

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Metal doesn't burn very well

Looks like plastic to me.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by ElvisForever

Not following you can not eat the pizza ever again but why bemoan the people that do? Even those that say like pineapple better aren't nearly as vocal about disregarding the classic styles. If the prequels are pineapple, than TFA is a cheap "gourmet" grocery store bought style. Sure the box picture looks great, but in the end it is still a frozen knockoff....but I still eat frozen!

Let's lighten this up for a second. Haven't see Rogue yet. I plan to today (no spoilers please)

Just got the SilverScreen edition. I am so stoked and have some BD-R coming in today.

Will Rogue tie in beautifully, or is it best to treat the original Star Wars to its own masterpiece state?

When did I ever bemoan the people who do? Have at it, good sir.

I love the prequels as much as I hate them, if that makes sense. If movie appreciation consisted of subtextual readings and thematic undertones alone then the prequels would be considered to be works of genius but alas, movies are also judged on things like acting, dialogue, tone etc for which the prequels are often so bad they'd make Uwe Boll blush with shame. Wonderful ideas realised in horribly clunky ways is the best way I can sum them up.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Looks like plastic to me.

It was probably plastic in real life but in the movies Vader's helmet is some kind of armor/metal.

[happydood]

Originally Posted by TM2-Megatron

The only reason I ever needed to explain the nonsensical diagnosis for Padme's death was a continuation of the poor writing I'd already suffered through for 3 movies.

They needed her to die, and nobody involved had enough creative juices left to come up with a reasonable explanation.

One man's 'poor writing' is another man's trope I suppose.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

The Padme dying scene could definitely have been handled better, but overall I agree that George Lucas is more of an abstract visual filmmaker.
Also, she got the BEST funeral scene of all times. Just hauntingly beautiful, epic and sad.

You are incorrect, sir! THIS is the best funeral scene of all time!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B85qu1tuXdI

[ArrestedDevelopment]

Originally Posted by ElvisForever

Healthy people can and do die for no apparent reason. However does that stop a coronor from coming up with a reason that equates to a heart stopped beating which falls into "heart abnormality".

Like good one....kinda like saying one died from a truck grill smashing your face but ignoring the bottle of Jack that caused it to happen.

I guess SIDS is magic too.


!

I wasn't insulting the movie's intelligence by saying that it was "magic", just chalking it up to some unexplainable event.

SIDS is known to be associated with predisposing risk factors like a baby sleeping in a prone position, second hand smoke exposure and prematurity.

Nice try smartass.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

It was probably plastic in real life but in the movies Vader's helmet is some kind of armor/metal.

Has that ever been stated as such in the movies?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Has that ever been stated as such in the movies?

Yes, Vader explicitly states, "Luke -- help me take this titanium-reinforced vacumn-sealed helmet -- which is definitely not a plastic mask -- help me take it off, so that I can see you with my own eyes, which somehow miraculously survived my entire head engulfed in flame."

[A Sith Lord?]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Yes, Vader explicitly states, "Luke -- help me take this titanium-reinforced vacumn-sealed helmet -- which is definitely not a plastic mask -- help me take it off, so that I can see you with my own eyes, which somehow miraculously survived my entire head engulfed in flame."

But won't all that weight pressed up against your head and neck kill you?
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Physiologically, there's nothing that can stop that now.

[stvn1974]

Psst, lightsabers aren't real either.

[bobbyh64]

Vader's helmet is made out of adamantium.