Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[OG Pooh]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Yup, it looks dated. Not too bad for the 70's though. Han looks fine and I don't think Leia's style was ever considered 70's fashion.. Haha.

Although Anakin's haircut in ROTS was kind of weird too. I guess it can be compared to Leia's buns... A trend in that galaxy far far away but not here?

The overuse of CG in the PT kind of takes me out of the action. I like the "real" sets used in the older movies. For example, Yoda. His digital counterpart seems more fake to me.

Although I admit, the PT created beautiful sets like Naboo and Coruscant, but it just went overboard imo. I mean, the clone troopers didn't even look like they had real costumes and they came out looking like cartoons. The stormtroopers looked so much better.

Another example is Dooku's scene on ROTS. They couldn't just have him walk down the stairs like a normal person, he did a flip and it ended up looking lame.

I agree. I'm not saying everything in the PT is perfect. I just look at the OT, and it feels claustrophobic compared to the PT. When I say it feels like a play, I mean that it seems like there's the core actors and maybe an extra or two standing around (like a play). It feels like little sets (like a play) The PT feels like it was shot on location (only in a different galaxy), if that makes any sense. As far as the CGI vs. real actors in masks go, I too prefer real actors. The problem here is that the actors in the masks in the OT look really fake at this point (just look at the cantina in ANH or the majority of the Ewoks in RotJ). While the CGi isn't exactly real looking, there is at least facial expression & movement. I wouldn't have used it on a main character with a lot of screen time (like Jar-Jar) though. Could you have seen the Yoda/Dooku duel with the puppet Yoda though?

Yeah, Dooku's flip looked very fake. So did the scene where the scaffolding came down and pinned Obi-Wan.

[Beast]

Yeah, Star Wars.Com had a great Newsreel type of thing around the times the PT films came out.

About Astro Droid's booster rockets malfunctioning and causing the droids to fall out of the sky and injure people.

So future droids no longer had the systems installed, and older droids like R2-D2 either had the systems removed or simply not refueled or repaired during repair cycles. I liked seeing R2 fly in the Prequels, and it never bugged me that he no longer had that capability by the time of the OT.

[harry keogh]

Originally Posted by frogmort

Check out this hairdo

Do one with a Justin Bieber hair cut.

[OG Pooh]

Originally Posted by Beast

Yeah, Star Wars.Com had a great Newsreel type of thing around the times the PT films came out.

About Astro Droid's booster rockets malfunctioning and causing the droids to fall out of the sky and injure people.

So future droids no longer had the systems installed, and older droids like R2-D2 either had the systems removed or simply not refueled or repaired during repair cycles. I liked seeing R2 fly in the Prequels, and it never bugged me that he no longer had that capability by the time of the OT.

Another instance of GL making up something on the fly to explain the lack of continuity in his films.

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by OG Pooh

Another instance of GL making up something on the fly to explain the lack of continuity in his films.

I always thought that the rebels were just to poor to put their resources toward juicing up R2.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by OG Pooh

Another instance of GL making up something on the fly to explain the lack of continuity in his films.

Are you seriously gonna go for that old nugget? People, not everything needs to be explained or shown in the films. We didn't see Luke build a new lightsaber either before he ignited the green one on the Skiff. We don't see the three years between ANH and ESB either. We don't see every moment of these characters lives, and a gap of over 20 years in Universe Time a lot of things can happen. It's a silly argument.

And here's the Holonet News that was released as promos leading up to the movie releases.

IA Caps Droid Rocket Warranty at 20 Years

RORDIS CITY, NUBIA - Rescinding previous consumer documentation that guaranteed a "lifetime" of reliability in their after-market astromech hover rockets, Industrial Automaton has now capped the warranty at 20 standard years. This decision affects all optional R2, R3 and R4-adapted leg-bracket and barrel-housed propellant rocket systems. IA is instead recommending feature swap outs after 20 years, regardless of actual logged hours of operation. The decision stems from a costly out-of-court settlement IA paid to a Sump port worker injured by a falling droid. CEO Julynn Kentas was light-hearted in deflecting media accusations of consumer fraud. "The term 'lifetime' has always been vague at best," she said. "Twenty years is still a long time. That's almost two Devlikk lifetimes, after all."

[OG Pooh]

Originally Posted by frogmort

I always thought that the rebels were just to poor to put their resources toward juicing up R2.

The simplest answer is usually the correct one. GL doesn't think things through. He will go for whatever looks or sounds the best, then make up some explination later. Hie explinations usually dig bigger holes though, as they contradict something somewhere else.

[harry keogh]

Originally Posted by Beast

Are you seriously gonna go for that old nugget? People, not everything needs to be explained or shown in the films.

FINALLY! Thank you for admitting the PT should not have been made! I kid. I kid.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by OG Pooh

The simplest answer is usually the correct one. GL doesn't think things through. He will go for whatever looks or sounds the best, then make up some explination later. Hie explinations usually dig bigger holes though, as they contradict something somewhere else.

Again. Not everything needs to be shown on camera. They're movies, not documentaries.

May as well complain that you don't see Luke's potty training. So he should be in his Bacta Diapers all the time. It's just kinda silly.

[frogmort]

You never know, George might have him flying all over the place in the "new" OT.

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by Beast

Again. Not everything needs to be shown on camera. They're movies, not documentaries.

May as well complain that you don't see Luke's potty training. So he should be in his Bacta Diapers all the time. It's just kinda silly.

Now that's funny!

[OG Pooh]

Originally Posted by Beast

Are you seriously gonna go for that old nugget? People, not everything needs to be explained or shown in the films. We didn't see Luke build a new lightsaber either before he ignited the green one on the Skiff. We don't see the three years between ANH and ESB either. We don't see every moment of these characters lives, and a gap of over 20 years in Universe Time a lot of things can happen. It's a silly argument.

And here's the Holonet News that was released as promos leading up to the movie releases.

Are you seriously that much of a Star Wars nerd that you buy everything GL throws at you? I know everything doesn't need explaining. I actually hate when things are over-explained, but come on, you're so much of a geek that can't or won't admit when things aren't right. You refuse to see plot holes the size of planets. I'm not saying the Artoo flying thing is a big deal, but again, you come to GLs rescue and try to have everyone believe the story was written that way on purpose rather than the obvious that GL thought Artoo flying would simply make for a good special effect. You love everything about Star Wars to the point where you see no wrong in it, even when it's beyond obvious.

EDIT: By the way, if it was something that didn't need explaining (because not everything needs explaining)... Why was the explination put up on starwars.com? Someone obviously thought it needed to be addressed.

[frogmort]

George knew that R2 didn't fly in the OT when he put it in. I think he just wanted to show him in his prime.

[OG Pooh]

Originally Posted by frogmort

George knew that R2 didn't fly in the OT when he put it in. I think he just wanted to show him in his prime.

That's the problem. GL does these things either not thinking about the continuity, not caring about it or simply forgetting. He then goes back & comes up with some kind of explination (even though it doesn't need explaining) as to why A contradicts B with C screwing up the both of them. Why was the line about wiping C-3PO's memory put into RotS? Because it was a huge incosistency that was easily noticed. However Artoo had much the same memories. Why not just say wipe these two droid's memories? Because Artoo's memory wasn't an obvious hole to everyone. My point is that the holes are there. Some are just big enough that GL decides they need addressing. Yet some people chose to not admit they exist at all... Even when GL has gone out of his way to explain them (though they don't need explaining).

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by OG Pooh

That's the problem. GL does these things either not thinking about the continuity, not caring about it or simply forgetting. He then goes back & comes up with some kind of explination (even though it doesn't need explaining) as to why A contradicts B with C screwing up the both of them.

While I agree that there are many gaping holes in the continuity, I just never saw that as one of them. When he flies in E2, he is working for the Jedi, who are pretty much the Secretaries of Defence in their galaxy in their prime.
In the OT, they are a desperate band of rebels trying to fight a powerful repressive government and don't have nearly as much recources available.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by OG Pooh

explination

I'm pretty sure Lucas at least knows how to spell "explanation" and wouldn't make multiple posts with it spelled wrong.

Seriously, what's the personal vendetta?

[OG Pooh]

Originally Posted by frogmort

While I agree that there are many gaping holes in the continuity, I just never saw that as one of them. When he flies in E2, he is working for the Jedi, who are pretty much the Secretaries of Defence in their galaxy in their prime.
In the OT, they are a desperate band of rebels trying to fight a powerful repressive government and don't have nearly as much recources available.

I agree. As I said earlier, it wasn't a big deal for me. I just thought addressing it should have taken priority over something like adding (the poorly done) Jabba.

[JamesKurtovich]

R2 couldn't spit oil or fly in the OT, but atleast he had a tiny saw.

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

R2 couldn't spit oil or fly in the OT, but atleast he had a tiny saw.

[OG Pooh]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I'm pretty sure Lucas at least knows how to spell "explanation" and wouldn't make multiple posts with it spelled wrong.

Seriously, what's the personal vendetta?

Sue me, I spelled explanation wrong. Wow, I admitted it!!! That's a problem for others.

There is no personal vendetta. Some people are just so blinded by their love for all things Star Wars that they are incapable of reason when it comes to discussing it. Some people can't admit that incosistencies exist, even when the team at Lucasfilm has taken measures to explain them. If they weren't there, I agree, they need no explanation. I also agree that not every story detail needs explaining. If we can't debate these things, why do we bother posting? If we can't even admit they exist... That's a whole 'nother level.