Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by jyenor

Seriously how can someone not have a problem with this:

Luke's saber is blue in Ben's hut.

It is magically white-green on the Falcon then for a single frame JUMPS to being light blue again (just so they could take that screen shot to claim in their press release they fixed it!) then JUMPS back to being white green.

Then the next movie is magically blue aga

Because I don't have a problem with it, I am sorry its bothering you, it's too bad really but it doesn't bother me, is that alright?

[EddieLarkin]

Originally Posted by marlon dingle

Wrong.

In the scene at the start with the monkeys, some of the backgrounds are obviously just walls with pictures on them cause you can see the joins where the pictures match up. So hardly perfection.

(Please take note of my humour before getting angry with me. Obviously 2001 is a blooming great Blu-Ray).

I could tell you were being humoress without the addendum, don't worry.

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

The people who don't frequent forums and the Internet, unlike us don't do so because they have LIVES They don't care who shot first, what color are the lightsabers, that R2 is hidding behind a rock or that Vader is saying NOOOOOOOO in Return! Most of them will not even notice because they are nothing more then casual fans of Star Wars and not nut cases in need of serious theraphy like the rest of us here in other forums

In most cases. Not in the case of my 65 your old Dad, who is a big SW fan but is obviously not the sort to frequent the internet. And he sure as hell noticed Vader's girly sabre and Luke's green one when I showed him the 04 DVDs.

[Jumpman]

Honestly, people, this is really simple.

Don't buy this set if these new changes have upset you that much.

Listen, there's no rule in the code of cinema fandom that states that Lucas or any other filmmaker for that matter, has to release their films on the various formats over the years.

This is why I don't get the comments about being "done" with Lucasfilm and Star Wars over these latest set of changes. If you have a VHS copy, the laserdisc, the '97 Special Edition Widescreen VHS, or the '06 Limited Edition version of these films, why not just watch those and rock on for the rest of your days?

They suited you for a while. Why can't they suite you for the rest of your life?

It's all really simple. This set doesn't suite you? Go watch whatever copy you have that does. Again, it's not like these things aren't out there to get.

[jyenor]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Because I don't have a problem with it, I am sorry its bothering you, it's too bad really but it doesn't bother me, is that alright?

As someone who isn't bothered by it why do you think Lucasfilm more or less lied in their press release claiming they fixed it when they didn't?

[jyenor]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Honestly, people, this is really simple.

Don't buy this set if these new changes have upset you that much.

It isn't just about the changes, that doesn't bother me. It is being lied to by Lucasfilm claiming they'd fix blatant visual errors when they didn't.

[pjvader]

anyone who is considering not buying just because of probably 5 seconds worth of changes is really doing themselves a disservice ive just had the chance to have a quick look at the 1080p rips on a 120" screen and it looks amazing im not a fan of the vader/krayt (hell im the original guy who found the differences) but if you are a fan and you like quality then all other things aside they are going to be amazing, 6.1 sounds stunning too

[mrpink134]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

You mean the same character who was basically an a-hole and nearly caused a needless nuclear war?

What other messages should we learn?

I can't believe all the kvetching going on over "leaked" PIRATED COPIES. *Nobody* has an actual Blu-ray in hand yet the hysteria has gone beyond hyperbolical dimensions. It very well maybe true, but I'm going to wait until actual discs get legit actual reviews before passing judgement.

Keep up the good fight! Don't stop believing! I cant be true its a conspiracy against Lucas!

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by jyenor

As someone who isn't bothered by it why do you think Lucasfilm more or less lied in their press release claiming they fixed it when they didn't?

As someone mention, they said "fix certain elements" or something in that nature. I am not a lawyer and I don't know how these things work but it's debatable that they have lied or not? Personaly it does not matter to me. Luke lightsabers as always look pretty crappy from the days of VHS, I am use to it and it never bother me or take me out of the story as some others will claim it does. I understand you are angry because you feel they have lied to you, nothing I can do about it except say that I am sorry its turning out that way for you.

[EddieLarkin]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

This is why I don't get the comments about being "done" with Lucasfilm and Star Wars over these latest set of changes. If you have a VHS copy, the laserdisc, the '97 Special Edition Widescreen VHS, or the '06 Limited Edition version of these films, why not just watch those and rock on for the rest of your days?

They suited you for a while. Why can't they suite you for the rest of your life?

B..b..because the tech is available to see the Star Wars films in 1080p and lossless audio, and I want to give over some of my money for the experience? In this great capitalist society we live in, the general rule is that if a big enough group of people want to fork over their cash for a product, and the tech of today allows it's creation, that product will get made. But instead Lucas would rather just take a big shit in my face. Ah well.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Honestly, people, this is really simple.

Don't buy this set if these new changes have upset you that much.

Listen, there's no rule in the code of cinema fandom that states that Lucas or any other filmmaker for that matter, has to release their films on the various formats over the years.

This is why I don't get the comments about being "done" with Lucasfilm and Star Wars over these latest set of changes. If you have a VHS copy, the laserdisc, the '97 Special Edition Widescreen VHS, or the '06 Limited Edition version of these films, why not just watch those and rock on for the rest of your days?

They suited you for a while. Why can't they suite you for the rest of your life?

It's all really simple. This set doesn't suite you? Go watch whatever copy you have that does. Again, it's not like these things aren't out there to get.

It's pretty simple. I will be buying this set for the extras and the extras only. I won't ever watch this version of the movies. I'll be downloading the OT once people with real talent fix and "undo" the chaos caused by Lucasfilm.

[mrpink134]

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

B..b..because the tech is available to see the Star Wars films in 1080p and lossless audio, and I want to give over some of my money for the experience? In this great capitalist society we live in, the general rule is that if a big enough group of people want to fork over their cash for a product, and the tech of today allows it's creation, that product will get made. But instead Lucas would rather just take a big shit in my face. Ah well.

He is releasing it on the latest tech available, he is making it available on Blu-ray. What you fail to say is "it's not the version you want but it's the version he want's". As the one releasing the product it's his right to release it the way he so wish it. As the customer it's your right not to buy it if you dislike what he is offering you.

[tensionfilter]

It is kind of obvious now why Lucasfilm started with the Deleted scenes first at the press conference.
So that they can claim they don't have enough time to show the actual blu ray footage and show the fake mockups they made.

And I'm hoping for the people who are still buying this set that the audio issues in ANH were just conversion related issues from the rip or the whole Matt Wood section of the press conference was another falsehood. (i.e. effects drowning out the score)

[Jumpman]

Indy,

Why not just watch the '06 Limited Editions?

Oh that's right...you HAVE to watch these in HD.

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I am unfortunately the worst offender, I know I just love teasing

i've already figured out what i'm doing.

i'm getting the complete saga on blu and then i'm going to get those special edition dvd's that came out w/the special edition version and theatrical versions on them.

then i can watch "yub yub" @ the end of jedi!!

[EddieLarkin]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

He is releasing it on the latest tech available, he is making it available on Blu-ray. What you fail to say is "it's not the version you want but it's the version he want's". As the one releasing the product it's his right to release it the way he so wish it. As the customer it's your right not to buy it if you dislike what he is offering you.

Yes, you're right. That is why I'm not buying it. My point is that usually, money would facilitate getting the product I want. But not in this case, because Lucas is a ****ing book burning [1970s Chilean Junta brown shirt]

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Indy,

Why not just watch the '06 Limited Editions?

Oh that's right...you HAVE to watch these in HD.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

i've already figured out what i'm doing.

i'm getting the complete saga on blu and then i'm going to get those special edition dvd's that came out w/the special edition version and theatrical versions on them.

then i can watch "yub yub" @ the end of jedi!!

I have all my old Star Wars stuff, VHS, Laserdisc, DVD in every form and shape release. I will never get rid of these

[monkeyjb1988]

Originally Posted by Krycek7o2

Its this weird glitch that appears at the bottom of the screen during the Death Star attack in Star Wars (A New Hope).
One of the screw ups during the 2004 release, I believe.

From the Jedi Council forums, metalinvader1982, about this release:
If you look towards the bottom of the picture you'll see a thin line of static.One of those blink and you'll miss it things,I guess.

Seriously, people complained about this? Yeah, it's annoying it's there, but I never noticed and I probably wouldn't notice even after being told this.

Originally Posted by mzupeman

Am I really the only one that looks at this video and says, "Big freakin' deal!" I can't be. Wow, the Ewok blinks now. And it even looks like a blink that could have been rigged as part of the costume, as opposed to some overly digitized piece of garbage. This doesn't offend me in the least.

+1 Blink worked for me. He may have blinked more than I would've decided, but not gonna ruin my day.

Originally Posted by StarksRevenge

This is supposedly the direct BR rip. And the guy has posted other clips from the Blu Ray that probably couldn't be faked. Its true, search your feelings, you know it to be true.

Worst. Star Wars. Special Edition Change. Ever - YouTube

And did you notice that Luke's dialogue seems to be cut or muffled to make room. What a joke.

A.) What dialogue? It's just Luke screaming, not something plot revealing.

B.) I could still hear it under Vader's new dialogue.

C.) Someone said it may be from another, non Star Wars, movie but James Earl Jones recorded no for ROTS. George may've had him done several inflections and used some of the extra ones. If not, James Earl Jones came back to record Vader for the new Star Torus ride. There's plenty of opportunities for James Earl Jones to record a few "no"s. Say what you want about the new lines, but claiming it's not Jones may be taking it a little too far.

Originally Posted by Breather

You know, like many in the fanbase, I hope Lucas one day restores and releases the UOT. Those are my favorites too. When it comes to his changes, some are good, some are bad, and some I'm ambivalent about. The new Vader audio is terrible and along with things like the Han/Greedo scene and the like, some of the changes really make you wonder about the guy.

On the other hand, talking about or hoping for his death really crosses the line, don't you think? It's one thing as a fan to get upset or annoyed with some of his changes/decisions, but when movies drive you to the point of even mentioning or hoping for the guy's death, don't you think you've crossed the line? Maybe you're a little too invested in these movies when it drives you to that point. Maybe it's time to take a step back and realize that they're just good movies.

Some of us might ***** and moan about some of the changes and debate the films, but in the end, they're just movies and not life and death.

I hope he lives a long and healthy life and sees 100 years old or more. You should too.

Discussion of his death because of some movies?

Thank you. Agreed with you on all that.

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I have all my old Star Wars stuff, VHS, Laserdisc, DVD in every form and shape release. I will never get rid of these

i gave my buddy the pack that came out on dvd....i wanted to get the versions w/the theatricals for a while now....and they can be had for about $10 each on amazon.