Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Weirded Wonder]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

Although there's an argument as to how he got in there, the same could be said before the vhange as theres a slope of rocks leading to the gap. So he couldn't have rolled up there.

Logic. Mans talking about logic. You green blooded, inhuman.

[thunderclap]

Pre-order cancelled, and I left a scathing one star review on Amazon as to why.

[Post Prod]

Don't get me wrong, I do not like the change at all.

But if the line was originally in there and it just now got cut; I seriously doubt there would be fans saying "Oh wow it works so much better with him in silence".

I think it boils mostly down to these films making a huge imprint on our psyche when we first saw them and many of us just want to relive that moment of wonder when we first saw them, in some manner. With every change it takes us out of the childhood haze when we watch it.

[Mavrick]

Originally Posted by Beard Esquire

Logic. Mans talking about logic. You green blooded, inhuman.

[Rhoq]

Originally Posted by master_8ball

I remember the day when talking about downloading a rip on this site got you an infraction...

There is a difference between discussing a rip and telling people where and how to download it. Since the rips being discussed are purportedly of the Star Wars Blu-rays, it is relevant to the on-going discussions in this thread.

[DarthBork]

Also Obi-Wan says 'no, anakin, no' when Anakin runs head on at Count Dooku.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

For me, this is a first. I've never vowed to boycott a Star Wars release. But it's my understanding that fans have had a history of threatening this while still ultimately buying.

I implore all of you to keep true to today's rage. Please. This should not be accepted.

The Big Lebowski - YouTube

[Kradath]

Originally Posted by Racetrack

This is starting to make me anxious about LOTR.

I can just imagine it now, 2014 Jackson releases the Ultimate box set of all 5 movies and he goes back to the LOTR movies and changes things so that they match the Hobbit. For example maybe using the new young Bilbo in the scene at the start of FOTR when he finds the ring instead of Ian Holm or maybe "fixing" Gollum so that he looks like he will in The Hobbit.

You heard it here first folks.

Won't happen as the lotr and hobbit movies are not as far away from each other as the star wars movies. races are set, gollum will look the same and the concept artists are also the same as well as all the other people working on the hobbit.

And changing replacing the young bilbo or replacing old cgi gollum with new cgi gollum are not bad changes.

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by Nocturnaloner

Ok, looks like I mentioned an unmentionable, nevertheless, I won't be buying these. The real, original films will eventually get an official high def release, and I can wait.

Yeah...doubt it. At least while a certain someone lives.

[Mavrick]

Originally Posted by Simon_LDT

How are there rips of the blu-ray's (supposedly) when not even the media seem to actually have the actual discs....??

All the reviews I've read they all share the same screenshots (most of them showing off the fixes) like they were just sent the info.

I've not seen any full 1080p screens yet, or maybe I've been living under a rock...

Probably because some guy with "contacts" in china somewhere where they produce the discs got his hands on a set. I've only got the 720p rips myself.

[Show spoiler]

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[chip75]

Originally Posted by Racetrack

This is starting to make me anxious about LOTR.

I can just imagine it now, 2014 Jackson releases the Ultimate box set of all 5 movies and he goes back to the LOTR movies and changes things so that they match the Hobbit. For example maybe using the new young Bilbo in the scene at the start of FOTR when he finds the ring instead of Ian Holm or maybe "fixing" Gollum so that he looks like he will in The Hobbit.

You heard it here first folks.

That wouldn't matter as we have them on Blu-ray already. There would be no need to buy them again unless you wanted the changes. Unless of course they fix the green and remaster the Fellowship theatrical edition....

[HDPlasma]

Star Wars blu-ray release delayed for 2 months
Reuters
3:12pm Wednesday 8/31/2011

Fox has just annouced that the Star Wars blu-ray release is being pushed back 2 months due to productions issues. Fox had no comment on the production issue.
Those waiting for the blu-ray release will now have to wait a little longer.

Fox delays Star Wars blu-ray release

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by Post Prod

Don't get me wrong, I do not like the change at all.

But if the line was originally in there and it just now got cut; I seriously doubt there would be fans saying "Oh wow it works so much better with him in silence".

I think it boils mostly down to these films making a huge imprint on our psyche when we first saw them and many of us just want to relive that moment of wonder when we first saw them, in some manner. With every change it takes us out of the childhood haze when we watch it.

It's because it's a completely unnecessary change that adds nothing to the scene. Vader's silence works perfectly in the moment. It's an internal struggle. He's probably got 25 years and countless horrible acts and decisions flashing in front of him as he finally lets go of his hate and destroys the Emperor. Williams' score, Vader's head movements, and Luke's screams are all that's needed.

Plus as I said earlier in the thread, it makes little sense plotwise for the Emperor to stand there and do nothing as Vader's saying "NO!" You'd think the dude would suspect Vader is about to turn on him after hearing that.

[Elandyll]

The sad part is that many here decrying the changes will still buy the discs (including me), because we know that in order to watch those movies in glorious high bandwidth 1080p with DTS HD there is just no other solution.

Lucas knows it, and knows that despite our anger we know it.
That's why he can do this, and not think twice about the impact on sales.

[thunderclap]

Originally Posted by HDPlasma

Fox delays Star Wars blu-ray release

Dammit! (I fell for it.)

[Kradath]

Originally Posted by Elandyll

The sad part is that many here decrying the changes will still buy the discs (including me), because we know that in order to watch those movies in glorious high bandwidth 1080p with DTS HD there is just no other solution.

Lucas knows it, and knows that despite our anger we know it.
That's why he can do this, and not think twice about the impact on sales.

I think the funny part is that most likely he only realizes afterwards that his changes are not liked OR he thinks only a small fraction of viewers don't like them.

[smeesmay]

http://blog.moviefone.com/2011/08/31...ncid=webmail18

anyone heard much on this?

[kurtlingle]

Originally Posted by Aragorn84

p.s. what really kills me about this is that I've always been a SE supporter. Though I have copies of the originals, I still liked the SE's for their improved PQ/Effects/etc. Never before have I been pushed to firmly join the OOT camp.

I've been watching the SE's for so long, I think it'd be weird to watch the OOT - I'm sure I'd notice all the "missing" things.

This change won't bother me to much. If it's true, it just links the 2 trilogies more which makes sense.

I don't think any change would keep from buying SW on blu-ray. I really can't wait (just a few more weeks).

[Blu-Runner]

Originally Posted by thunderclap

Dammit! (I fell for it.)

Same here. Partly because I wanted to believe that they really would delay it for adjustments... but, no, GL is too hard headed.

[Krycek7o2]

Originally Posted by azereus

Sorry for the slightly off-topic question but...

Can someone point me to a resource that outlines the different releases over the years with the changes in each release?

Thanks

Here ya go!

Star Wars
http://picasaweb.google.com/doubleof...itionChangesHD

The Empire Strikes Back
http://picasaweb.google.com/doubleof...itionChangesHD

Return of the Jedi
http://picasaweb.google.com/doubleof...itionChangesHD

Credit (I believe) belongs to doubleofive from OT.com

Original Thread - http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/top...s/topic/11927/