Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[HandyDandy]

Some questions:

1)-How is the P/Q on the OT.
2)-Has anyone contacted LFL in regards to all the stuff that they said they fixed cause i doubt they would publicly lie to the whole world about fixing stuff if they did not.
3)-Honestly guys you are going to cancel you're pre-orders cause of a simple word like NOO. I would wait for reviews to come in before you base your decision on the word NOOO.It may turn out to be not that bad at all.
4)-Star Wars is still in the top ten pre-order list even after this NOOO scene was found.

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by elliotroad

Hey folks,

This has been a fascinating discussion on this thread, hats off the the fellow who started it! I have a great amount of respect for all of you and your unique takes on this upcoming release. Bottom line for me, I am just excited to finally own Star Wars on Blu-Ray. I definitely understand all of your points of view, you all make good points as to why these change should or shouldn't be there. All I know if that this world is tough enough, lets just have some fun with a good movie series on the best format currently available.

Cheers friends,
elliotroad

Couldn't have said it any better myself !

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by Beast

Good man! One of the best and most respectable posts in ages. Always good to make up your own mind.

And of course, your concept of "making up one's own mind" is to unquestionably like at least 99.9% of the changes made to the films, tolerate the other 0.1% at least enough to never complain about them under any circumstance, and to accept any new release of the film (with any new alterations) with completely open arms.

Yes, following your exact example is clearly the definition of someone making an independent decision.

[El_Jay]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Well, he basically screwed up that mission considering that this is now the 4th revision of the movies. And likely not the last (I wouldn't be surprised to see even more things tweaked for the 3D releases). Maybe he should at least finally make all of the changes that he absolutely wants to make, and be done with it.

Can you even think of a piece of work, be it a film, a book, a play, an album, anything, that has been revised to this extent over this period of time?

I think this must be the record-holder.

[DarkDune]

My thoughts:

"No" may sound better in "context".

Or































Perhaps NOT.

LOL

[Lsalas76]

The Darth Vader "no" at the end of Revenge of the Sith is still far worse than this new no at the end of Return of the Jedi

[42041]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

3)-Honestly guys you are going to cancel you're pre-orders cause of a simple word like NOO. I would wait for reviews to come in before you base your decision on the word NOOO.It may turn out to be not that bad at all.

One NOO is all it takes to make a good scene campy or silly. I wish Lucas would understand this, and ponder that every time he has one of his brilliant "hey what if we add this...." moments. And at this point it's just a few more nuggets in the SE turd sandwich.

[nmycon]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

best buy and wal-mart didn't have them.

target is too far away to check there.

and i wasn't willing to go through pawn america's stock.

so i've been scouring ebay and amazon.

I've found them at Toys R Us and HMV. But they're both charging MSRP ($20)... no thanks

[kurtlingle]

Originally Posted by LADodgers

My boys are 8, 10 and 12 and never saw the SE editons or the PT until I had ingrained in them the UOT over and over again and again. They do not like the PT nor the SE editions at all to this day.

Interesting. Probably not the norm (just a guess). Most kids would prefer the upgrades in tech in PT and the action.

[Cook]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Well, he basically screwed up that mission considering that this is now the 4th revision of the movies. And likely not the last (I wouldn't be surprised to see even more things tweaked for the 3D releases). Maybe he should at least finally make all of the changes that he absolutely wants to make, and be done with it.

And this is why I can't buy into his crap. If he has all these ideas and stuff he wantes to do from the beginning why hasn't he done it all in one release? Why does he keep doing a few things per release? Truth is he is just doing it all on a whim and doesn't know what he wants. Plus, its easier to sell an old product with a few tweaks evry few years. Its all money money money.

[DarkDune]

Originally Posted by lsalas76

The Darth Vader "no" at the end of Revenge of the Sith is still far worse than this new no at the end of Return of the Jedi

You mean -- Franken-Vader?!?!

[Jay444]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Well, he basically screwed up that mission considering that this is now the 4th revision of the movies. And likely not the last (I wouldn't be surprised to see even more things tweaked for the 3D releases). Maybe he should at least finally make all of the changes that he absolutely wants to make, and be done with it.

The problem is when you try to make something perfect, you create more flaws. Tighten one string and you loosen another, so on and so forth. Lucas is just like Tarkin; the more he tightens his grip, the more things slip through his fingers. The problem is, he doesn't realize this and will continue to mess with the original films until he dies. Perfection doesn't exist in films. Every filmmaker knows this but Lucas.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

And of course, your concept of "making up one's own mind" is to unquestionably like at least 99.9% of the changes made to the films, tolerate the other 0.1% at least enough to never complain about them under any circumstance, and to accept any new release of the film (with any new alterations) with completely open arms.

Yes, following your exact example is clearly the definition of someone making an independent decision.

I could post a laundry list of things I don't care for in the Star Wars trilogy.

Or things that I don't like in regard to the changes. And so on.

I just don't feel the need to rant and rave over these sorts of things. It's not that big a deal.

In the end, it's Lucas' vision and we're just along for the ride. So I say, "What do you have to show me today?"

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by kurtlingle

That is so funny! I love it. Great one.
My vote for post of the day!

Credit goes to chubigans over at neogaf for that one.



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[octagon]

Originally Posted by lsalas76

The Darth Vader "no" at the end of Revenge of the Sith is still far worse than this new no at the end of Return of the Jedi

That's a tough call.

The No at the end of Sith was certainly sillier and more cartoonish and it completely gutted what could have been a really powerful scene.

This No guts a scene that was already great.

I'm not sure which is worse...preventing greatness or defacing it.

[HandyDandy]

Where are the blu-rips of the PT strange that all we are seeing is the OT??
Maybe they found the person that leaked the info??

[Beast]

Originally Posted by kurtlingle

Interesting. Probably not the norm (just a guess). Most kids would prefer the upgrades in tech in PT and the action.

Note that he did admit to indoctrinating them in hate for the SE and PT rather than letting them make up their own minds.

Which to be honest, I find kinda creepy. But it's his right as a parent. But it's kinda like shades of brainwashing.

[Miadaskate]

Has anyone else's Amazon Pre-Order not switched to the 16th yet (assuming some people here haven't already cancelled theirs)? Mine is still dated for the 27th.

[nmycon]

Originally Posted by kurtlingle

Interesting. Probably not the norm (just a guess). Most kids would prefer the upgrades in tech in PT and the action.

I remember watching ROTJ on VHS when I was 8 or 9, first SW movie I watched. A couple years later I watched the SE, and as soon as I heard Jedi Rocks and Victory Celebration instead of Lapti Nek and Yub Nub, I knew something was off.

I hadn't seen the movie for 2 years, but still remembered it (because I loved Yub Nub ). I didn't have internet then, (around 2003), so I couldn't look up all the changes.

Then again, I am one of the younger members of the forum, so I guess I care a little more about film than your typical 17 year old... (?)

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Shaft Windu

If some changed lines in "Hamlet" written by Shakespeare himself would pop up it would be a literary sensation! If someone would find a hidden chapter from the "Lord Of The Rings" under Tolkiens floorboards HIS fans would treasure it! So why is George Lucas who created the most complex and ambitious piece of cinema ever treated like crap by his supposed "fans"? An author, filmmaker, artist owes his fans nothing simply because he doesn't choose his fans - The fans choose the thing they love and are drawn to.

I see it as a kind of cleansing-process right now. The large nerd-herd of conservative fans finds out right now that they actually don't get Star Wars and will abandon it. Simultanously a new generation will discover the movies on Blu-Ray and in theatres next year and fill that void. Star Wars is alive and more glorious than ever and it will prevail despite the endless bickering of painfully unimaginative naysayers! OVER AND OUT!

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