Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Malik True]

Looks like I will probably get it, I do not own Episode IV, V and VI on DVD. I do however have the original versions (1977-1983) on the special box set Lucas released on LaserDisc a number of years back. I believe this is going to pricey though, we'll see.

Let me also add Episode I, II, III are the best looking DVD's I've played through my Panny Blu-ray. EASILY the BEST PQ & AQ!

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Aaaand we've come full circle

No No No!

It's "The Circle Is Now Complete."

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Malik True

Looks like I will probably get it, I do not own Episode IV, V and VI on DVD. I do however have the original versions (1977-1983) on the special box set Lucas released on LaserDisc a number of years back. I believe this is going to pricey though, we'll see.

Let me also add Episode I, II, III are the best looking DVD's I've played through my Panny Blu-ray. EASILY the BEST PQ & AQ!

No offense but Episode I is kind of ugly for a DVD, especially one from 1999. I really hope they gave it a once-over or a twice-over when they were prepping it for blu-ray.

[MattW]

I really only want to have the original movies, but I'll get the prequels too just to have the complete set.

[drichter33]

ok, i dont have the time to read through the 12 pages since this was announced, but I am confused about which versions are being released.
The way it is worded in the article seems cryptic to me. Granted, I am not up to speed on all the changes, but the way I remember it:
1. Original Trilogy
2. 1997 Re-released in theaters with updates and some changes
3. 2004 DVD release was based on the 1997 special editions plus even more changes.

Is that right? And if so, what are the differences between 1997 and the DVD's?

The wording in the article made it sound like it was the 1997 editions which I dont think could have had Anakin's ghost at the end of Jedi or that new version of vaders conversation with the emperor in Empire. I am not sure about that awful musical number in Jabba's place or changing the Ewok song occurred back in 1997, but i feel like they were even newer changes for the DVD and if those are removed then I am happy cause they are really the only things that bother me most.

Regardless we wont get what we all want and the never ending complaining will continue all the way up to the release date and then some.

[goldenrod]

They'll use the 1997 versions for remastering, but I beleive that the 2004 scenes were already remastered when they we're prepped.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by drichter33

ok, i dont have the time to read through the 12 pages since this was announced, but I am confused about which versions are being released.
The way it is worded in the article seems cryptic to me. Granted, I am not up to speed on all the changes, but the way I remember it:
1. Original Trilogy
2. 1997 Re-released in theaters with updates and some changes
3. 2004 DVD release was based on the 1997 special editions plus even more changes.

Is that right? And if so, what are the differences between 1997 and the DVD's?

The wording in the article made it sound like it was the 1997 editions which I dont think could have had Anakin's ghost at the end of Jedi or that new version of vaders conversation with the emperor in Empire. I am not sure about that awful musical number in Jabba's place or changing the Ewok song occurred back in 1997, but i feel like they were even newer changes for the DVD and if those are removed then I am happy cause they are really the only things that bother me most.

Regardless we wont get what we all want and the never ending complaining will continue all the way up to the release date and then some.

It's going to be the 2004 version at the very least. Likely with even a few more tweaks.

Also, you call it an "awful musical number".... but it was way better than Lapti Nek.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Beast

It's going to be the 2004 version at the very least. Likely with even a few more tweaks.

Also, you call it an "awful musical number".... but it was way better than Lapti Nek.

So basically SW for the 2011 kids, that's pretty much what I think, too.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

So basically SW for the 2011 kids, that's pretty much what I think, too.

So, it looks like Lucas will change the films roughly every 7 years now.

1997 - Special Editions
2004 - Special Editions 2.0
2011 - Special Editions 3.0
2018 - Special Editions 4.0?

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Beast

So, it looks like Lucas will change the films roughly every 7 years now.

1997 - Special Editions
2004 - Special Editions 2.0
2011 - Special Editions 3.0
2018 - Special Editions 4.0?

That would be awesome, if only because it will spawn even more whining. It'll be like something you can set your watch to, every 7 years more SW whining.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

It's a lot of money for me too but they are 6 of my favourite movies of all-time so about $17 a movie works for me.

I'm going to say it's between $119-$139.00. I think $129.99 sounds like the
number I would bet on.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by Beast

Well...

Palpatine broke his spirit when he manipulated him to destroy everything he cared about. There was no reason for Anakin to do anything but be his servant.

And THIS is one of the 27,422 reasons I dislike the prequils. It goes against human nature, and thus it is a lie. The goal of any artist should be to illuminate the truth about human nature within the fiction of the story.

When a person has everything that makes life worth living destroyed by another, the natural response is revulsion, rage, and ultimately...revenge! Anakin becoming Palpatine's little b---- makes absolutely no sense at all. Anakin has nothing left to live for--nothing to lose--and the man responsible is standing right before him. Yet Anakin goes against human nature and becomes the Emperor's servant? Bullocks.

Besides, once Anakin kills the Jedi children he becomes an irredeemable character anyway. I don't care how many teddy-bear celebrations you have or how many Death Stars you blow up; the entire emotional payoff at the end of Jedi is ruined the second Vader becomes a child-killer.

[Sith]

The prequels rule. Anakins fall to the dark side started in episode II when
he killed everyone who kidnapped his mother. His lust for power was evident
even then. Palpatine just "helped" it along by implanting the dreams he had of Padame. I find his fall to the dark side credible and have no problem with it.

As for killing the younglings. Better to kill them when there small then have
to fight them when they are grown up and pissed.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Sith

The prequels rule. Anakins fall to the dark side started in episode II when
he killed everyone who kidnapped his mother. His lust for power was evident
even then. Palpatine just "helped" it along by implanting the dreams he had of Padame. I find his fall to the dark side credible and have no problem with it.

As for killing the younglings. Better to kill them when there small then have
to fight them when they are grown up and pissed.

They weren't fully trained or developed though. Even if they fled the Council was gone and Yoda was banished, who was going to train them?

[JamesKurtovich]

Man, I can't wait for this! The PQ is going to be amazing!

[Beast]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

And THIS is one of the 27,422 reasons I dislike the prequils. It goes against human nature, and thus it is a lie. The goal of any artist should be to illuminate the truth about human nature within the fiction of the story.

Goes against human nature? It's the brutal truth of human nature.

It's also very in keeping with traditional mythology. You always hurt the one you love.

When a person has everything that makes life worth living destroyed by another, the natural response is revulsion, rage, and ultimately...revenge! Anakin becoming Palpatine's little b---- makes absolutely no sense at all. Anakin has nothing left to live for--nothing to lose--and the man responsible is standing right before him. Yet Anakin goes against human nature and becomes the Emperor's servant? Bullocks.

You kinda missed the point that Palpatine manipulated Anakin, causing Anakin to destroy the things in his life that he loved. It's not like Palpatine personally killed her right in front of him and went "Mwahahahahaha" about it. He put things in motion that led Anakin, to self-fulfill his own vision of Padme dying. It makes perfect sense. And shows just what a manipulative genius Palpy is. Even more so then we saw in RotJ.

Besides, once Anakin kills the Jedi children he becomes an irredeemable character anyway. I don't care how many teddy-bear celebrations you have or how many Death Stars you blow up; the entire emotional payoff at the end of Jedi is ruined the second Vader becomes a child-killer.

I'm sure there were children on Alderaan also. I don't see Vader whining to Palpatine or Grandma Tarkin to not destroy the planet because some babies are gonna die. Yes, Vader killed children. But in his mind they were potential threats to the Republic. If allowed to live, they would/could have been a future threat.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

They weren't fully trained or developed though. Even if they fled the Council was gone and Yoda was banished, who was going to train them?

The galaxy is a very big place. There are jedi that for one reason or another where not in the council and not fighting the clone war. Not to mention if Yoda knew that all the younglings had survived he could of started a jedi academy on Dagobah.

Then there are also holocorns which can help with training.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Sith

The prequels rule. Anakins fall to the dark side started in episode II when
he killed everyone who kidnapped his mother. His lust for power was evident
even then. Palpatine just "helped" it along by implanting the dreams he had of Padame. I find his fall to the dark side credible and have no problem with it.

As for killing the younglings. Better to kill them when there small then have
to fight them when they are grown up and pissed.

I don't think Palpy had anything to do with the visions.

Anakin had prophetic dreams that Padme would die and wanted to prevent that.

By doing so, he put in motion the exact events that lead to her dying.

It's a classic storytelling trope, that of the self-fulfilling Prophecy.

As for the Younglings, Palpatine had already ordered the Jedi Purge. Anakin killing them was probably more humane than to leave them to be slaughtered by the CloneTroopers. Look at Zett Jukassa's fight on the landing platform against the squad of Clones as Bail Organa looked on. I'd think lightsaber decapitation is kinder.

[Sith]

Originally Posted by Beast

I don't think Palpy had anything to do with the visions.

Anakin had prophetic dreams that Padme would die and wanted to prevent that.

By doing so, he put in motion the exact events that lead to her dying.

It's a classic storytelling trope, that of the self-fulfilling Prophecy.

Palpatine had everything to do with those dreams.

[Jumpman]

Anakin's redeemable because of what drove him to do the horrible things that he did. A simple notion anyone of us might fear one day...the fear of losing one's spouse and powerless to stop it.

How is fear of losing one's spouse unredeemable?