Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[dcowboy7]

When will Amy put up the preorder ?

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

That could be.

Even I liked it a lot at first but after a year or two passed, I realized it was easily the weakest film of the lot. It's only redeeming quality is it set the stage for Lucas to make the next 2 films and tell Anakin's story.

[MCT]

Phantom Menace looks like On The Waterfront compared to the 2nd one. Even though it's technically the "best" prequel, the 3rd one just has too many canyon sized plot holes and leaps in logic to look past.

Does anyone know where Palpatine got Vaders uniform from? Did he predict the future and have it made in advance? Does he always keep a spare "Dark Lord of the Sith with breathing issues" outfit laying about, just in case?

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

I still can't believe there are people who think TPM is the best of the 6 SW films.

I still can not believe that a poster earlier stated that 'A New Hope' is the worst of the 6 SW movies.


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[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

I still can not believe that a poster earlier stated that 'A New Hope' is the worst of the 6 SW movies.


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It's not the worst, it may be the most over-rated one though. LOL wow MCT really doesn't like the prequels.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

So if he's a latcher-on and everyone knows he's lying, why doesn't he just shut up already? Attention/glory hound?

Because he's the patron-saint of bitter piss-pot fanboys. Nobody cared about that jerk until Simpson's-Comic-Book-Guy clones started whining about 'The Phantom Menace' being the "worst movie ever" because it didn't give them the same religious ecstasy that they had built up in their mind over the first Star Wars. That's when they all started turning to Kurtz as their cult-hero, because he's somebody in the original production camp who validates their narcissistic undercurrent of believing that they could have done it better themselves. I think it's all the result of two+ decades of fan-fiction; who would have thought that their Star Wars obsession would turn so twisted and dark? They're like the stalker that grows to resent, then hate, then kill the one they originally started following because they were so madly in love with them.

Originally Posted by Clone Trooper

I think you should. It's actually very good and you get to see more of the minor Jedi, ie. Kit Fisto and Plo Koon.

Yep. My nephew got me watching some of those, and they are a lot more interesting than I thought they would be.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

It's not the worst, it may be the most over-rated one though. LOL wow MCT really doesn't like the prequels.

I think it's the worst from several perspectives. I can say the same about Ep.II as well, though. Mostly, its faults are based on being badly underfunded... the studio didn't give them but half the budget they needed to really do it right. The rest of the weaknesses are faults that are pretty much present in all six movies.

That's why I like the SE of EpIV, they fixed a lot of the most cheap-looking props and effects.

[DrrnHarr]

I'm tired of people whining.

Sure I prefer the theatrical cuts of the Original Trilogy but people on here are complaining about something that has been LucasFilm policy for over 10 years.

LucasFilm stated in the late 1990s that the Special Editions were the only recognized versions and that all film of the theatrical cuts was to be destroyed.

That's why they put the LaserDisc transfers on the DVDs AS A SPECIAL FEATURE. Namely, the LD transfers were deemed to be the best quality versions of the theatrical cuts in existence.

So, why are fans complaining about the special editions on Blu-ray and not the theatrical cuts when if they included the theatrical cuts it would be the same transfers as on the LaserDiscs and DVDs.

This isn't news, its been the position of LucasFilm for over a decade. Read the post I made about the interview I conducted with LucasFilm's VP in 2006 regarding the theatrical cuts earlier in this thread.


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[GORT]

Originally Posted by TheOneWithThePrize

Common sense and logic says he'll recognise the loss of income in not putting out a product that has perhaps a small, yet considerable following.

He got flack for the versions he put out on DVD. No doubt he will mend his ways with a future Blu-ray release. The NY Times article does seem to indicate that the classics are coming albeit a few years off.

Common sense and logic say that unless his ex-wife gives up her claim to any money made off the OT because she worked on them you will never see them.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by DrrnHarr

I'm tired of people whining.

So, why are fans complaining about the special editions on Blu-ray and not the theatrical cuts when if they included the theatrical cuts it would be the same transfers as on the LaserDiscs and DVDs.

This isn't news, its been the position of LucasFilm for over a decade. Read the post I made about the interview I conducted with LucasFilm's VP in 2006 regarding the theatrical cuts earlier in this thread.

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Partly because we don't know one special edition from another these days. There were multiple versions/recuts. The absolutely lamest special edition feature was adding Hayden Christenson and others to the ending of Return of the Jedi as holograms. That wasn't part of the original special edition recut. And how do we even know Lucas is done? For all we know he may ended up screwing with more from the original trilogy and label that the "definitive edition." Stop acting like there is "one and only one" true version, because there isn't.

[BigErn]

Originally Posted by GORT

Common sense and logic say that unless his ex-wife gives up her claim to any money made off the OT because she worked on them you will never see them.

So because he couldnt hit is ex wife right and some other guy did we all have to pay for George's lack of bedroom skills? Marsha worked on them, won an academy award for editing and deservers her fair share of any sales. He is the onle being a tool about the whole matter.

Oh and the orginals were not destroyed, what versions do you think are stored at the film archives and the smithsonian? Not that crap he calls his finished versions.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

Metacritic can disagree as much as it wants, Episode V is the best one. It's the crowning achievement of SW, the most complete film in the saga.
V
III
IV
II
VI
I

#1 - TPM
#2 - ESB
#3 - RotS
#4 - RotJ
#5 - AOTC
#6 - ANH

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by BigErn

So because he couldnt hit is ex wife right and some other guy did we all have to pay for George's lack of bedroom skills? Marsha worked on them, won an academy award for editing and deservers her fair share of any sales. He is the onle being a tool about the whole matter.

Oh and the orginals were not destroyed, what versions do you think are stored at the film archives and the smithsonian? Not that crap he calls his finished versions.

I don't agree about the hitting the wife part but I agree that eventually the original cuts will come out, I imagine a few more petitions to Lucas on that subject started circling the Internet yesterday.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

I still can not believe that a poster earlier stated that 'A New Hope' is the worst of the 6 SW movies.


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It's true. I can't even stand to watch that one anymore. It's just so slow and zzzzzz.

Even with all the additoons that managed to make it a better film, it's still the weakest one.

[BigErn]

Originally Posted by Beast

It's true. I can't even stand to watch that one anymore. It's just so slow and zzzzzz.

Even with all the additoons that managed to make it a better film, it's still the weakest one.

Glad that you are in the very very minority with that opinion.

Episode IV and V were Kurtz's best and then once Lucas took over with Marquand it all went to utter hell including that hot mess called Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith...both box office failures. The grand finale could not even muster 400 Mil .....why? Becuse it had plot holes so large you could drive a truck through it.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

I don't agree about the hitting the wife part but I agree that eventually the original cuts will come out, I imagine a few more petitions to Lucas on that subject started circling the Internet yesterday.

Yeah, since it hasn't worked over the last decade+ it might work someday.

Einstein: "The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing over and over, and then expecting different results."

[Batman1980]

Jar Jar Binks' innate stupidity, Anakin's horrible lines and the overall silliness of the Gungans make Episode I the worst one in my book.

[DrrnHarr]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Partly because we don't know one special edition from another these days. There were multiple versions/recuts. The absolutely lamest special edition feature was adding Hayden Christenson and others to the ending of Return of the Jedi as holograms. That wasn't part of the original special edition recut. And how do we even know Lucas is done? For all we know he may ended up screwing with more from the original trilogy and label that the "definitive edition." Stop acting like there is "one and only one" true version, because there isn't.

True....didn't Lucas say a couple of years ago that he was working on 3-D versions of the movies.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Beast

#1 - TPM
#2 - ESB
#3 - RotS
#4 - RotJ
#5 - AOTC
#6 - ANH

You must be joking.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

You must be joking.

He's not the only one, a lot of SW fans I know think it's the best one for some reason. Redeeming qualities about it that don't save it
Natalie
Seeing the Senate and the Jedi Council
Being introduced to the younger versions of so many old favourites
Seeing Palpatine's earlier machinations as he makes his moves to become Emperor