Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[P@t_Mtl]

I think people missunderstand the originals? Because most of the action is directed at Luke they seem to think he is the focus of the three movies. The focus of the originals was Darth Vader from the point of view of Luke, how can he redeem his father and bring back the Jedi he was?

[DarkDune]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I think people missunderstand the originals? Because most of the action is directed at Luke they seem to think he is the focus of the three movies. The focus of the originals was Darth Vader from the point of view of Luke, how can he redeem his father and bring back the Jedi he was?

True.

People forget that back then, we were following Luke's journey, and Darth Vader's story was a mystery.

[Show spoiler]When Darth Vader told us all that HE was Luke's father...we had to wait in SHOCK for THREE YEARS to find out if it was true!

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by DarkDune

I used to live in Germany for 13 months, and I WISH we could get the German language tracks on the U.S. Blus and DVDs. The only Blu I have that has those German language tracks are Das Boot, and the occasional German speech in the Indiana Jones movies.

"Die Amerikaner! Die kampfen wie Weiber!" - Raiders of the Lost Ark

LOL

It would be cool to watch SW in German for me! Krieg der Sterne!!!

The German in ROTL is hilarious, but SW in German:

It's a Nightmare (C-3PO-AOTC)

[Snowmaker]

Anyone post this yet?

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/09/...tical-gangster

[P@t_Mtl]

The Star Wars movies are mostly about redemption. I think Lucas seem to believe that no matter how much somene can mess things up, they can be forgiven and they can have a chance to make things right again. In the end, Vader does it with the help of his son. The Force is strong but there is something else much stronger then the Force and that is love.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by Snowmaker

Anyone post this yet?

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/09/...tical-gangster

Do you even know what he was talking about? He doesn't contradict himself, despite what people may think.

[shelldweller]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

The German in ROTL is hilarious, but SW in German:

It's a Nightmare (C-3PO-AOTC)

I recently found out that the lossless track is removed from the German release also... I think it outrageous! I very happy I ordered the US-Box. As you know, Star Wars in german or dubbing in general is horrible.

The funny part is that I posted on Amazon.de about this strange move of removing the original track in favor of the german dubbed one. All I got in return for this information was that I got attacked because they are glad that only the german version is in HD. I just dont get it sometimes!

[Shaft Windu]

Originally Posted by Snowmaker

Anyone post this yet?

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/09/...tical-gangster

Yes, about a million times. Lucas' statements only support his decisions and are the foundation of his views about the freedom of the artist against a third partys financial interests...

[shelldweller]

Originally Posted by Snowmaker

Anyone post this yet?

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/09/...tical-gangster

It just the usual misinterpretation of Lucas speech. People who dont understand what he was talking about like to quote it to their advantage to bash the Special Editions and Lucas.

People who think Vader saying "No" in RotJ makes that much of a difference to his character, the moment or story never got what RotJ was about in the first place. The more important it seems to me for Lucas to insert it into this specific scene.

[SwissHD]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

The German in ROTL is hilarious, but SW in German:

It's a Nightmare (C-3PO-AOTC)

The german dub of the Prequels is bad.
But the Originals are done very well.

Just like the Movies themselves

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by SwissHD

The german dub of the Prequels is bad.
But the Originals are done very well.

I agree. But the German who dubbed Liam Neeson did a wonderful job imo.

[shelldweller]

Originally Posted by SwissHD

The german dub of the Prequels is bad.
But the Originals are done very well.

Just like the Movies themselves

I think you only said that because you grew up on them in german, didnt you?
When I first saw Star Wars it was the german dubbed version also. I agree the Prequel dubbing is horrible but the dubbing of the Sequels isnt much better if you look at it objectively. Once I saw them in their original language I couldnt go back.

Just like the movies themselves... people seem to prefer Episodes 4-6 because they grew up on them or have known them for a long time. It is called nostalgia.

[kurtlingle]

Originally Posted by octagon

Obviously it's not too surprising when people who don't care for the PT overall don't care for Clones but I'm still always a little surprised to see how many PT fans don't like it.

I've always thought it was fairly inoffensive and over the past few years have even come to think the good outweighs the bad.

More or less, anyway.

I love AOTC. I like all 6 movies.... there are great moments in AOTC - I think my favorite is the Obiwan vs Jango Fett fight in the rain. Just a awesome scene.

[balthazar_bee]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

Just like the movies themselves... people seem to prefer Episodes 4-6 because they grew up on them or have known them for a long time. It is called nostalgia.

I call it taste.

[SwissHD]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

I think you only said that because you grew up on them in german, didnt you?

Yes. i can speak almost all the Dialogues by heart. It's burnt in my head
And i have never seen any Harrison Ford movie without his german voice.

Originally Posted by shelldweller

but the dubbing of the Sequels isnt much better if you look at it objectively.

I can really look at it from a near to neutral point of view and i still think that the dubbing of the originals are way better and like i said very well done.
I'm not the only one who thinks this way about it. Even People who generally watch the original Language says the same about this subject.

But hey....we all have our own opinions.
Its what makes the World interesting

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

But the German who dubbed Liam Neeson did a wonderful job imo.

Yes. But he is always very good.
But that isn't helpful if the majority of the dub ist horrible.

[Chris81]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

The funny part is that I posted on Amazon.de about this strange move of removing the original track in favor of the german dubbed one. All I got in return for this information was that I got attacked because they are glad that only the german version is in HD. I just dont get it sometimes!

People just are happy, that the german audio got the highest priority on the german discs, because most people over here will be watching those movies in german language.

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by SwissHD

Yes. But he is always very good.
But that isn't helpful if the majority of the dub ist horrible.

I agree once again

[Weirded Wonder]

Originally Posted by Shaft Windu

It's quite puzzling to me that the same "fans" who want the OUT without CGI-additions are the same people who want all the OT-lightsabers to be replaced by new prequel-style blades. Lucas was always very respectful of the work that was put in the original effects, masks, puppets and performances. Otherwise the changes could have gone much, much further. The fan-reaction is a disgrace!

James Earl Jones was always a more important part of the Vader-persona to me than David Prowse. This new final scream of agony when Anakin breaks free of the Dark Side is very powerful a clear improvement. It's just out of spite that "fans" don't like it.

I'm guessing you missed Jedi Rocks, the Mos Eisley extended scene, the Sarlac Pit, Greedo, etc. etc. etc. Yeah, very respectful.

[P@t_Mtl]

It's all a matter of opinion really!! Some like certain of the aspects changes in the movies and others don't. No one will ever be able to convince someone to change their opinions on the subject.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by Beard Esquire

I'm guessing you missed Jedi Rocks, the Mos Eisley extended scene, the Sarlac Pit, Greedo, etc. etc. etc. Yeah, very respectful.

Very. Aside from Greedo, those changes improve the movie greatly.