Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[NYorker]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

Point taken, as I said it is personal opinion on each film, but all I was illustrating was the absurdity of his Fan argument. You can be a fan of anything without liking everything about it. Don't forget, Star Wars ANH would have been a stand alone movie if not for its success. It is a fully contained movie, in fact the only one of all 6 that can be classed as such.

Clearly others have a different and conflicting viewpoint of what being a fan of a film means

Very true, I forgot about that...

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by Shin sam

Thanks for the link, but the list is only of the 2004 DVD set not the changes for the Blu Ray set.

OT : http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpb...pic.php?t=9065

PT : http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpb...pic.php?t=9088

[BladeRunner2007]

You want to know how much better the Blu-ray of ANH looks compared to the 2004 DVD? Well, here you go

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comp...8844/picture:0

[maverik1979]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

You want to know how much better the Blu-ray of ANH looks compared to the 2004 DVD? Well, here you go

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comp...8844/picture:0

wow, not exactly night and day difference is there, but then again the 2004 DVD was a very good encode, and ANH is the weakest of all the original film elements, so not entirely surprising, i just hope theyve managed to do a better job with the sound, which was quite harsh and abrasive on the DVD

[DanzG]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

OT : http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpb...pic.php?t=9065

PT : http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpb...pic.php?t=9088

Wow what is up with the Green Tint in AOTC's?

[Bukax42]

Now AOTC looks like every other movie.

[AlexSing]

Is it me or are the OT pics of the blu rather underwheliming?

[shelldweller]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

Point taken, as I said it is personal opinion on each film, but all I was illustrating was the absurdity of his Fan argument. You can be a fan of anything without liking everything about it. Don't forget, Star Wars ANH would have been a stand alone movie if not for its success. It is a fully contained movie, in fact the only one of all 6 that can be classed as such.

Clearly others have a different and conflicting viewpoint of what being a fan of a film means

Yeah, it´s not like people have to be fans of Star Wars. They don´t have to like them... if it´s not for them, it´s OK. If someone likes SW E4: ANH and hates SW E5: TESB it´s also OK. The fact of the matter is that Star Wars is a six part Saga. If you consider yourself a fan of this six part saga, one might think that you like the six parts of that saga. I don´t see how that is debatable.

Me personally, I love all six movies, but I´m not a fan of Clone Wars and I absolutely dislike everything Expanded Universe or fanmade so far. The core always remains George Lucas´ six Episodes that actually is Star Wars.

When it comes to the Alien franchise it´s a whole different thing for example. It´s not one big project by one filmmaker but one movies followed by sequels more or less connected to the first but made by different filmmakers with different ideas. I don´t consider myself a fan of the whole franchise since I don´t like all of the movies. The first ALIEN is one of my favorite movies but I don´t like the second one (ALIENS) at all.... etc.

[vargo]

Originally Posted by AlexSing

Is it me or are the OT pics of the blu rather underwheliming?

It is not just you. They could look so much better if they did a modern 4k or 8k restoration instead of reusing the old Lowry 1.9k transfer from 2004.

[Bukax42]

Originally Posted by vargo

It is not just you. They could look so much better if they did a modern 4k or 8k restoration instead of reusing the old Lowry 1.9k transfer from 2004.

Actually it's from 1995, 2004 DVD transfers are just tweaked versions of the restoration made for Special Edition.

[aiman04]

It's been quite a ride. The last few months everyday I came and read every single posts of this thread, from where I left off. Now I just click on the last page and just glance at the posts. I'm totally geared up for the blu-ray I'm just counting days. I'm not even looking forward for professional reviews anymore. Star Wars: The Complete Saga Blu-ray will be mine that's all that matter now.

[Jason520C]

8 days left for us Americans...I've never been so excited!

I actually had a dream last night that this website posted its review of the Complete Saga. I don't remember the contents other than the fact that it was posted

I'll admit I had my worries, but overall I think this will be a great set. At first, I was turned off by Vader's new dialogue, but I think that was just the initial shock that got me, and it seems the same for everyone else too.

I'm definitely buying these at Walmart on midnight. Unfortunately I have class Friday morning and I live in half a double, so I can't really play movies or music late at night so the most I can really do right after I buy them is put one in and see the PQ >_<

[vargo]

Originally Posted by Bukax42

Actually it's from 1995, 2004 DVD transfers are just tweaked versions of the restoration made for Special Edition.

In 1995 it just got a physical cleanup and the only bits scanned where the bits where changes were made.

In 2004 it was rescanned at 1080p and this is when Lowry did his digital cleaup.

The Blurays come from this transfer, after all the degrain/regrain stuff was done. That's fine for a SD release, when you downscale it you cant really retain much grain anyway. But for Bluray they really needed to do all this work at 4k or higher.

[Coov]

Originally Posted by Shallow_

If one really Loves Starwars, then yes it should and does matter.

They are 100% Starwars films, all 6 of em, and those who seek to keep dividing them and help substain the disliking for the so-called prequels can not be considered Starwars fans imo.

And if one did not like Superman 3, 4 and Superman Returns, then obviously you are not a Superman fan.

[Bukax42]

Originally Posted by vargo

In 1995 it just got a physical cleanup and the only bits scanned where the bits where changes were made.

In 2004 it was rescanned at 1080p and this is when Lowry did his digital cleaup.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Roonil Wazlib]

Originally Posted by Cinescott

I am now officially an old man Yes, it was actually pretty cool to start with the original 3. I was 13 in 1977 and grew up with the original trilogy. Like many of you "youngsters," I have a special place for the OT compared to the PT since that's what I grew up with, but I do consider ROTS to be a great movie.

Have faith young ones, these films can still be fun even when you're close to the grave like me.

You're not the only old man here... LOL.. Albeit, I was only 4 when "Star Wars" opened in 1977. I can still remember the theater that day, filled with kids cheering and clapping during the movie. The OT were the only movies I can remember going to and hearing people cheering for in the middle of watching it. I saw ESB at a drive-in theater! Does anyone remember those?

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Roonil Wazlib

You're not the only old man here... LOL.. Albeit, I was only 4 when "Star Wars" opened in 1977. I can still remember the theater that day, filled with kids cheering and clapping during the movie. The OT were the only movies I can remember going to and hearing people cheering for in the middle of watching it. I saw ESB at a drive-in theater! Does anyone remember those?

I was 9 years old in June of 1977 when I first saw Star Wars, seem only like yesterday sometimes

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by vargo

In 1995 it just got a physical cleanup and the only bits scanned where the bits where changes were made.

In 2004 it was rescanned at 1080p and this is when Lowry did his digital cleaup.

The Blurays come from this transfer, after all the degrain/regrain stuff was done. That's fine for a SD release, when you downscale it you cant really retain much grain anyway. But for Bluray they really needed to do all this work at 4k or higher.

I keep hearing about this degrain/regrain from Lowry. Can you someone link me to the actual work they did on this? Seems weird to completely regrain something then add fake grain to the image? We are seeing fake film grain in these?

[Coov]

[Brightstar]

list of deleted scene's

0:00:25:05 (TRASH TALKING DROID)
00:00:18:10 (THE BATTLE IS OVER)
00:00:15:23 (ANAKIN’S RETURN)
00:00:17:15 (BATTLE ON THE BOARDING RAMP)
00:01:21:19 (EXTENDED POD RACE WAGER)
00:00:17:02 (BAIL ORGANA OF ALDERAAN)
00:00:57:15 (EXTENDED SPEEDER CHASE)
00:00:53:09 (THE LOST TWENTY)
00:00:55:00 (ANAKIN’S NIGHTMARE)
00:00:41:24 (ANAKIN AND RUWEE)
00:03:42:17 (RAID ON THE DROID CONTROL SHIP AND EXTENDED ARENA FIGHT)
00:01:25:21 (ELEVATOR ANTICS)
00:02:22:23 (ESCAPE THROUGH THE HANGER)
00:01:49:12 (CHANGES TO CONSTITUTION)
00:08:03:10 (UTAPAU CHASE ANIMATICS)
00:03:19:04 (MUSTAFAR DUEL ANIMATICS)
00:03:31:08 (MUSTAFAR DUEL / LAVA RIVER ANIMATICS)
00:06:20:14 (KAHYYYK AND ORDER 66 ANIMATIC)
00:00:36:00 (JEDI IMPOSTERS AT THE TEMPLE)
00:05:10:17 (SENATE DUEL ANIMATIC)
00:00:48:10 (YODA COMMUNES WITH QUI-GON)
00:00:26:08 (ANAKIN KILLS SHAAK TI)
00:04:58:24 (TOSCHE STATION)
00:00:31:13 (THE SEARCH FOR R2-D2)
00:00:42:12 (STORMTROOPER SEARCH)
00:00:24:17 (DARTH VADER WIDENS THE SEARCH)
00:00:24:20 (ALTERNATE BIGGS AND LUKE REUNION)
00:01:29:05 (HAN AND LEIA: EXTENDED ECHO BASE ARGUMENT)
00:01:59:17 (LUKE & LEIA: MEDICAL CENTRE)
00:02:27:03 (DELETED WAMPA SCENES)
00:00:20:08 (THE FATE OF GENERAL VEERS)
00:01:03:16 (LUKE’S RECOVERY)
00:01:08:04 (YODA’S TEST)
00:00:53:15 (HIDING IN THE ASTEROID)
00:00:51:12 (LEIA TENDS TO LUKE)
00:02:33:19 (VADER’S ARRIVAL AND REACHING OUT TO LUKE)
00:01:59:19 (TATOOINE SANDSTORM)
00:02:07:02 (REBEL RAID ON BUNKER)
00:00:22:00 (JERJERROD’S CONFLICT)
00:06:50:07 (CANTINA ROUGH CUT)
00:00:20:10 (AUNT BERU’S BLUE MILK)
00:00:13:11 (OLD WOMAN ON TATOOINE)
00:01:45:05 (ALTERNATE HAN AND LEIA KISS)
00:00:45:02 (LOBOT’S CAPTURE)
00:09:06:20 (BATTLE OF ENDOR: THE LOST REBELS)