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Originally Posted by Shaft Windu
You know that Star Wars isn't Science Fiction, right? It's set in the past in a galaxy faaaaaaaaaaar away. If anything it's fantasy. There are no explosions or sounds in space too - nevertheless: The Death Star goes BoOOoM! That's no mistake.  |
And what has that got to do with what I said?
It's getting to the point where you are just using the whole myth and fantasy aspect as an excuse for any glarring error in the films. So because it's "fantasy", we should just throw out any expectations of consistency within the rules and terms of this universe out the window and expect things to just not add up when they should?
The bottom line is that it's very clear that a parsec was intended as a unit of time in that scene, and then was later redefined to be a unit of distance, and any attempts on Lucas and co. to try to explain/excuse it are pathetic at best.
The truth be told, the error, itself doesn't really bother me. It's generally not something that I focus on. If it was used as a unit of time in one instance, an a unit of distance in another, and it was just a genuine accidental, unintentional consistency error, no biggie. I can over look it. The issue that I have is Lucas being unable to simply admit it. He always has to make these things look like they were planned this way when they clearly weren't.
It's kind of like the errors from the color timing of the 2004 OT DVD release, with the really messed up lightsaber shots (some of which were fixed for the BD release). When complaints started coming in about these issues, the official Lucasfilm response was that these were "deliberate artistic decisions" or something akin to that. Does your "fantasy" excuse explain that away as well?
And further more, there is the UOT issue. Not even so much the fact that Lucas won't release it, but the ongoing, changing excuses that he gives. One time it will be because he simply doesn't want to release it because it doesn't represent his artistic vision, then it's because the elements no longer exist or are in too bad of shape to restore at all, then it's because it's "too expensive". So which is it? While I disagree with it, at least I can understand where he's coming from on the first reason, and at least that reason can co-exist with either of the other two. But the latter two excuses are complete contradictions. If the elements simply no longer exist in a state which can be used to restore the UOT, then cost isn't even a factor. All of the money in the world isn't going to fix something that is completely unfix-able. Either it can be done and it costs a lot, or it just can't be done. Which is it, George?
I could at least give the guy some additional credit and respect if he was consistent and honest. But there have been a few too many contradictions and holes in his explanations over the course of time. If he would just admit to the occasional error like the previous ones mentioned, that would go a long way. For the UOT issue, if he would just simply stick to his choice not to release them, and stop ad-hocing inconsistent excuses to it (or at least clarify what the true state of the original elements are, and explain what it would cost to restore the UOT, assuming it can be fixed), I could give him a bit more slack. Sure, I would still want the UOT released, but at least things wouldn't come across as shady with him as they so often do.
As for your whole myth/fantasy vs. sci-fi debate, let's face some realities of the matter here:
-Even if Star Wars is first and foremost a myth/fantasy, it still contains many sci-fi elements and is still to a certain extent a sci-fi franchise.
-Whether or not you want to agree with the previous point, your example of the explosions in space that couldn't exist in reality is not at all a good measure by which to dictate Star Wars as being a fantasy rather than Sci-Fi since many sci-fi franchises (such as Star Trek) have done the exact same thing with ships blowing up in space, etc.
And really, the space explosions don't bother me. I can suspend disbelief for something like that. No big deal, as long as it's consistent. But when rules and terms are created specifically for the films series, they should be consistent throughout in their meaning. The meaning of a term shouldn't magically change from one movie to another with no explanation. And if it's just an honest error, then no big deal, just admit it. I can accept a minor error such as the inconsistency in what a parsec is, but I have a low tolerance for the arrogance that goes into arguing in favor of it being consistent (when it CLEARLY isn't), slapping together some half-assed explanation, and then telling anyone who disagrees that they are wrong. Either a parsec was meant as a unit of time in ANH, or Han just went on a pointless tangent about the capabilities of his ship and himself as a pilot that had nothing to do with Obi Wan's question. Which is it?
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. It was such an obvious flaw that I have no idea why they couldn't have fixed it when they did it for other sequences where it was less noticeable. Another garbage matte they didn't fix was at the beginning where the pod carrying 3PO and R2 is launched.
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