Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Astro Zombie]

Originally Posted by Bickle76

What was I thinking, I guess ROTJ did have blood in it.

Always thinking with your stomach.

[Thomas Guycott]

Originally Posted by Astro Zombie

What I always found weird was that the arm was bloody, but in the prequels there was no blood (Anakin's arm, Dooku's head, etc.)

They really wanted to avoid that G-rating back in the day.

Also hence Owen and Beru's charred remains.

[Astro Zombie]

Originally Posted by Thomas Guycott

They really wanted to avoid that G-rating back in the day.

Also hence Owen and Beru's charred remains.

This too. That seemed pretty graphic compared to the other films.

[Bickle76]

Originally Posted by Astro Zombie

This too. That seemed pretty graphic compared to the other films.

Empire gets all the credit for having the more mature/darker tone, but ANH owns the darkest images.

[AeroK]

Everytime Han slices open the tauntaun in Empire I get the craving for boudin.

[thebard]

Originally Posted by AeroK

Everytime Han slices open the tauntaun in Empire I get the craving for boudin.

I think boudin smells bad on the outside.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by cricepng

These have been my exact thoughts on this all along. Luke saved Anakin. Anakin did not die when he turned to the dark side. Rather he suppressed any goodness he had had. This is what makes the Saga a story of redemption. The only way Anakin could be redeemed was if there was still something worth redeeming under the mask.

I've always thought that Anakin wasn't redeemed -- he atones. He atones for his crimes with the only thing he has left...his life.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by ernest rister

i've always thought that anakin wasn't redeemed -- he atones. He atones for his crimes with the only thing he has left...his life.

+1

[Braktastic]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Carrie Fisher's merkin.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Carrie Fisher's merkin.

Merkin?
What's a merkin?

[Donat96]

Originally Posted by KaineKinetic

Merkin?
What's a merkin?

Pubic wig.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Donat96

Pubic wig.

oh...
Well... According to Jay... She does have 70's bush...

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

I've always thought that Anakin wasn't redeemed -- he atones. He atones for his crimes with the only thing he has left...his life.

If he wasn't redeemed/saved and only atones for his crimes then that makes even less sense for him to be young. Actually he shouldn't even be there at all.

Luke even says "But I've got save you" and Anakin/Vader says "you already have Luke, you already have. Tell your sister you were right about me."

[Gold Ranger]

I have always wondered how Anakin, Young or Old, was there to begin with...
Only Obi-wan and Yoda had the training to become Force Ghosts.

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by KaineKinetic

I have always wondered how Anakin, Young or Old, was there to begin with...
Only Obi-wan and Yoda had the training to become Force Ghosts.

Well it makes sense with just the original original trilogy but with the prequels it is just another one of Lucas' screw ups.

[JayFank]

Originally Posted by KaineKinetic

I have always wondered how Anakin, Young or Old, was there to begin with...
Only Obi-wan and Yoda had the training to become Force Ghosts.

Where is that mentioned in the movies?

[thebard]

Originally Posted by JayFank

Where is that mentioned in the movies?

In ROTS, Yoda told Obi Wan that Qui Gon had come to him after death with the knowledge of becoming one with the Force.
It could be implied that the Emperor taught Vader, assuming he kept his word that he would do so, and that he did indeed learn it from Plagueis.

[Hypnosifl]

Originally Posted by thebard

In ROTS, Yoda told Obi Wan that Qui Gon had come to him after death with the knowledge of becoming one with the Force.
It could be implied that the Emperor taught Vader, assuming he kept his word that he would do so, and that he did indeed learn it from Plagueis.

Preventing people from dying seems totally different from dying and becoming a force ghost though--plus the Emperor didn't come back as a force ghost, and the fact that Anakin came back looking like "his old self" before being turned (in both versions) seems to imply there aren't dark side force ghosts. Maybe part of the secret the Yoda and Obi-Wan learned was how to prevent other Jedi's spirits from dissipating into the force when they died, even if those other Jedi didn't know the secret themselves.

[blonde_devil]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

If he wasn't redeemed/saved and only atones for his crimes then that makes even less sense for him to be young. Actually he shouldn't even be there at all.

Luke even says "But I've got save you" and Anakin/Vader says "you already have Luke, you already have. Tell your sister you were right about me."

That's why the whole Lucas story about the films being all about Vader is pure junk as he never actually deals with the consequences of what he did my joining the dark side. I alwaays thought that Anakin said "you already have" because Luke pulled him out of the dark place with his final act being destroying the Emperor and Death Star - a good act that shows he isn't totally evil. It isn't redemption or atonement as he never actually faces up to what he did, he just did something good before dying.

With the force ghost, maybe it is a result of being at peace which is something a sith could never be. They are constantly suspicious of everyone and trying to work everyone where as a jedi can be at peace with the universe. Would explain why the Emperor never figured out the trick.

[thebard]

Originally Posted by Hypnosifl

Preventing people from dying seems totally different from dying and becoming a force ghost though--plus the Emperor didn't come back as a force ghost, <snip>.

Yet.