Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

Why? Boba is only in like maybe 10 minutes of the movie, 15 at most. He doesn't even actually do anything.

Originally Posted by gigan72

Because he's actually a rather important part of the film, as he does take Han Solo. Screen time does not dictate how important a character is to a movie.
And after all, it would definitely be better than a Stormtrooper. While they are important, they can't shoot a damn thing and ultimately just slow down the Rebels in the time it takes to kill them, while Fett actually got away with a kinda important character to the franchise.

I was about to say, at least Boba does more than any Stormtrooper in that movie.

[Yungheat]

Originally Posted by gigan72

Same discs in the new full collection as the old, nothing new.
Steels I don't believe will have the three bonus discs, though.

Ok any word on price?

[Yungheat]

really love the way the steels look there beautiful but is the 40 extra hours of footage worth getting the complete saga for or not really coming from someone that doesn't own them yet on blu

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Yungheat

really love the way the steels look there beautiful but is the 40 extra hours of footage worth getting the complete saga for or not really coming from someone that doesn't own them yet on blu

Those 40 hours include roughly 24 hours of audio commentary (2 for each film) plus a selection of documentaries which range from vintage to pointless fluff, along with some proper deleted scenes for the OT and a few leftover scraps for the PT (because everything truly worthwhile was on the DVD releases, stuff which hasn't been carried over). The rest of the 40 hours is taken up by lots of examinations of props and costumes and miniatures, some of which are accompanied by short interviews and behind the scenes videos. It's a shame that the extras are such a pig to navigate because there's some halfway decent stuff tucked away in those particular sections.

[Yungheat]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Those 40 hours include roughly 24 hours of audio commentary (2 for each film) plus a selection of documentaries which range from vintage to pointless fluff, along with some proper deleted scenes for the OT and a few leftover scraps for the PT (because everything truly worthwhile was on the DVD releases, stuff which hasn't been carried over). The rest of the 40 hours is taken up by lots of examinations of props and costumes and miniatures, some of which are accompanied by short interviews and behind the scenes videos. It's a shame that the extras are such a pig to navigate because there's some halfway decent stuff tucked away in those particular sections.

So is the complete saga worth it or not really should I just go with the steels

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Yungheat

So is the complete saga worth it or not really should I just go with the steels

Well, you COULD just read the review and decide for yourself but...well...that would take....like....effort....and stuff.

[Yungheat]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Well, you COULD just read the review and decide for yourself but...well...that would take....like....effort....and stuff.

I did read it and I read numerous post in this thread also i was just trying to get people's opinions that have the complete saga on the extra footage no need to be rude but anyways keep rolling your eyes

[JAL4U2C]

Originally Posted by Yungheat

I did read it and I read numerous post in this thread also i was just trying to get people's opinions that have the complete saga on the extra footage no need to be rude but anyways keep rolling your eyes

If you don't have the previous box set and you like extras and galleries and the like, then i would say it's worth picking up. If extras do nothing for you, then go for the steels. Hopefully the new box set will be better as far packaging. I never cared for how the discs fit into the old one. They are difficult to get out. It's too bad the box set isn't a steel as well.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

There's a difference between "It" and "Its distribution rights." That's what people are saying. Fox owns its distribution rights, not rights to the property itself. Fox has no claim over the original film elements, the negatives, the ability to remaster the film, etc. If Disney chose to go ahead and do an extensive remaster on the original film and press it to BD, for example, Fox would merely retain the rights to distribute that specific release and profit from its sale. Fox could choose to not distribute the film, effectively blocking its release (but then again, that would be an insanely irrational move, as it would be simply denying their own company free money), but they don't own the property itself.

That's a moot point because if Fox owns exclusive distribution rights, Disney can't do anything publicly with its own properties. What's the point of owning something if you can't generate revenue from it? But it's not all cut and dry because much depends upon the language and terminology in the original contracts and how it's interpreted today by lawyers. (I develop software to manage contractual rights that's used by many "A-List" media companies, so I'm quite familiar with all this.)

Contracts written today usually have phrases like "...on media that exists today and media that might exist in the future", but contracts written when these were most likely didn't. So if the contract used the phrase, "home video", some lawyers would argue that it applied only to the home media formats that existed at the time and other lawyers would argue that it would apply even to home media formats that didn't exist yet, like digital downloading and streaming. Theatrical is a bit more straightforward.

The other issue is whether Fox has exclusive rights regardless of whether they want to release something or not or whether they have "first offer" rights where if Disney wants to re-release a title either in the theatrical or home video markets, whether Disney can take it elsewhere if Fox decides they don't want to distribute it (not that they would ever decide not to).

And I'm sure there are other factors. You'd think distribution deals would be fairly straightforward and that the contracts would use clear language that would not be subject to interpretation, but I can assure you that's hardly the case. I think the lawyers do it purposely so that they're always needed.

People here seem to be making a big deal that Disney can't theatrically release Episode IV, but I'm not sure that Disney cares. In today's world, a theatrical release of a 38-year-old film that everyone has seen, many own in various versions and is also available streaming would not generate much box-office. Disney is placing most of its energy and resources into the making and distribution of the new films and associated merchandise. That's where the big money is. Always follow the money.

There's one other factor: Rupert Murdoch is 84 years old. Even though his son Lachlan is a senior exec and more and more involved in the business, when Rupert no longer has controlling interest, all cards are on the table. Fox can be sold, split up, etc. Anything can happen and when it does, that's a potential point when Disney can seek to get back all rights if they want to.

Just today, this was reported:

Lachlan Murdoch has stamped his authority over his father Rupert's cable and film giant 21st Century Fox warning that the "scale and speed of rapid change" in the media and entertainment sector will be "overwhelming for some" in the industry.

"We do not underestimate that challenges and opportunities. In this environment it is not enough to simply adapt to change," said Lachlan Murdoch. "To succeed in this environment we must lead change.

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What that means is hard to say, but it's possible that in the long term, Lachlan moves the company away from traditional media more into new media, even though cable stocks have been in the dumps over the last few days.

[Geoff D]

I'd say it's obvious that's Fox's deal doesn't cover streaming (apart from the one they're entitled to distribute in perpetuity), Disney have already made that quite plain and their lawyers probably got a fat bonus for that one. They weren't able to finagle the streaming rights to the original movie so there must be something in the Fox contract about including future media formats, even if it was written decades ago, because it's pointless being able to distribute a film for all time if you're then gonna be stymied every time a new media format or delivery system is created.

[Yungheat]

Originally Posted by JAL4U2C

If you don't have the previous box set and you like extras and galleries and the like, then i would say it's worth picking up. If extras do nothing for you, then go for the steels. Hopefully the new box set will be better as far packaging. I never cared for how the discs fit into the old one. They are difficult to get out. It's too bad the box set isn't a steel as well.

Thank you

[Yungheat]

Is there any word yet as far as pricing goes for steels and the complete saga

[gigan72]

Originally Posted by Yungheat

Is there any word yet as far as pricing goes for steels and the complete saga

Steels are up for pre-order @ Best Buy.com I think for $25. I haven't seen any links for the complete set yet.

[deto]

Too bad there is nothing new on these blu's, cause I really do like the look of the steel books...

[Imaginarion]

Hmm. So if Fox still controls all distribution rights for Episodes I-VI, and Disney does for all future properties, does that mean that one giant box set of all films will never be released, because of different licensors?

[Nailwraps]

Originally Posted by Imaginarion

Hmm. So if Fox still controls all distribution rights for Episodes I-VI, and Disney does for all future properties, does that mean that one giant box set of all films will never be released, because of different licensors?

Not just Disney and Fox, but Warner too (mostly because they still own home video rights to Star Wars: The Clone Wars movie and the first 5 seasons, perhaps even owning the original micro-series being a Cartoon Network co-production and all).

Fox will still own the original 6 films...until May 2020 when I, II, III, V, and VI will go to Disney, although Fox will still (co)own IV.

[Scottie]

At least standalone releases are coming!

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by Imaginarion

Hmm. So if Fox still controls all distribution rights for Episodes I-VI, and Disney does for all future properties, does that mean that one giant box set of all films will never be released, because of different licensors?

The digital release has a complete series bundle despite Fox and Disney having shared distro rights. As I said before A New Hope is UV because of Fox while the remainder are Disney Movie Anywhere due to Disney.

Disney has also paid fees to Paramount and Universal to create their Marvel Phase 1 Blu-ray set.

[popeflick]

In 2020 Disney will own the rights to 10 of 11 live action Star Wars films. And they'll own 100% of every single possible piece of merchandise related to Ep4 and every other film. They won't care about distribution rights to a single film they can sell figures and coffee cups for. Get real people, they're 100000% fine with that.

[GuruAskew]

They were also fine with spending $4 billion on Marvel even though the rights to their most iconic characters were held by competing studios. So the notion that they wouldn't have purchased LucasFilm without complete control over every film is laughable.

Star Wars is a Fox title, and control LucasFilm has over it is no more ownership than the rights someone like Spielberg has over how his movies are presented. Spielberg decides exactly when and how ET is released, but it's still a Universal film.

Fox doesn't have the rights to release their own competing Star Wars sequel or remake. They don't have the rights to any merch. These are things that Fox gave up in the late 70s to keep Lucas in the business of making more Star Wars movies. But if you want to go to a movie theater or play VHS/laserdisc/DVD/Blu/download you're gonna do it courtesy of 20th Century Fox.