Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Vidya]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Is there much of a difference between Star Wars (1977) and A New Hope (1981)?

I think it's only the title crawl that had changed. Can't be sure though.

[shinobipopcorn]

If Empire of Dreams is to be believed, he only changed the title and added "Episode IV".

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by shinobipopcorn

If Empire of Dreams is to be believed, he only changed the title and added "Episode IV".

Didn't they have to speed up the crawl, as well, to synch it to the iconic music?

Anyway, here it is (allegedly)...

Star Wars (1977) - Original Theatrical Crawl - YouTube

[Vidya]

From Wikipedia:
"Like in the other films in the series, the 1977 crawl begins to roll before the Star Wars logo dissolves. For the 1981 re-release, the crawl was modified, only beginning after the logo has dissolved; also, the subtitle Episode IV: A NEW HOPE was added to the crawl, one year after The Empire Strikes Back was released. The text was rearranged so that each paragraph did not end with a single word, as well as capitalizing 'Rebel' in 'Rebel spies.' As a result of the reworked crawl, the initial Star Destroyer flyover was recomposited, removing a thick black matte line. The Episode IV: A NEW HOPE subtitle would appear in all future releases of the film, theatrical and home video, with the exception being the 2006 bonus DVD release of the unaltered film."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rs_re-releases

[Mighty Max]

Originally Posted by Guydowood

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http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wa...th-anniversary

Haha...
Rey has an Obi-Wan angled blade!

[Panama Jack]

Bill Hunt at the Bits now saying the UOT is unlikely for this year:

http://www.digitalbits.com/columns/m...ts/022417-0100

[Ernest Rister]

Well, it was fun while it lasted.

[bobbyh64]

Even if Disney does release the UOT, would the films still have the Fox opening logo and fanfare? And what about the alien subtitles with the original font?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Even if Disney does release the UOT, would the films still have the Fox opening logo and fanfare?

At least until 2020 for Empire, Jedi, and the Prequels.

[crissrudd4554]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Well, it was fun while it lasted.

Typical with OUT rumors Im afraid. Oh well.

[klauswhereareyou]

Originally Posted by Panama Jack

Bill Hunt at the Bits now saying the UOT is unlikely for this year:

http://www.digitalbits.com/columns/m...ts/022417-0100

Who knows, maybe this is some kid of swerve since if it really is happening, the rumor leak happened about two months earlier than the official planned announcement (Star Wars Celebration 2017).

But yeah, once again I'll believe it when there is an official announcement. Its like every few years we hear London After Midnight has finally been found, and it turns out to be false.

[motorheadache95]

So what I'm understanding here is that they must have done a 4K scan of the original negatives (which are the 1997 Special Editions) and then re-added all of the further alterations that had been done afterwards, thus making them higher quality versions of the same "Complete Saga" versions.

I'm actually surprised they ended up doing that-- in the past, I had guessed that they would just leave those versions as is, and a 4K remaster would only be for the originals, and possibly the '97 versions for a more comprehensive release.

This is a bummer to hear, as it looks like virtually nothing has actually been done yet at Disney to restore the originals, other than maybe they have a raw 4K scan of the 1997 versions.

[Mighty Max]

I keep having this thought that every time a rumour with some form of base behind it comes out regarding the unaltered, remastered trilogy happens, that Disney decides to punish everyone by delaying the release...

[Cobra Kai]

Just from reading the article, I dont see anything that rules out that a restoration has taken place.

The comments from the Disney guy only discussed the current state of the negatives. But it seems like for a restoration of the OOT, they would just scan all the original elements that were cut from the negatives separately, and then reassemble the original cuts digitally.

But we really need more info here - what exactly the question was and how this Disney guy responded. He obviously wouldnt be able to give anything away if there was a release planned so he may have just been trying to answer like a politician without lying.

But, all this being said, I will be surprised if it actually happens, and we most likely wont hear anything concrete before Celebration.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Panama Jack

Bill Hunt at the Bits now saying the UOT is unlikely for this year:

http://www.digitalbits.com/columns/m...ts/022417-0100

[steel_breeze]

I had confirmation a long time ago that this was a 4K restoration of the Lucas edition, from my sources inside the post house. I just didn't know whether it was the 1997 version, 2004 version, or 2011 version. But I'm STILL disappointed, dammit.... even though I already knew. Guess I got my hopes up that things might have changed in the last year or two years since I'd checked.

I think the fact is: most people who actually work on this stuff just don't give a damn which version it is; it's all the same to them. Even Gareth Edwards and his cinematographer Greig Fraser talk in multiple outlets about seeing the "original STAR WARS" in preparation for ROGUE ONE, even though it WASN'T. Lucas has achieved his revisionist dream: his bastardized version has completely usurped the place in the public consciousness that should've been reserved for the original, ground-breaking, award-winning classic.

[Arawn]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

I think the fact is: most people who actually work on this stuff just don't give a damn which version it is; it's all the same to them. Even Gareth Edwards and his cinematographer Greig Fraser talk in multiple outlets about seeing the "original STAR WARS" in preparation for ROGUE ONE, even though it WASN'T.

Why can't they tell the difference? Is it that they're really not all that into Star Wars, outside of vague childhood memories and nostalgia?

[thegoat]

Originally Posted by Panama Jack

Bill Hunt at the Bits now saying the UOT is unlikely for this year:

http://www.digitalbits.com/columns/m...ts/022417-0100

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by Arawn

Why can't they tell the difference? Is it that they're really not all that into Star Wars, outside of vague childhood memories and nostalgia?

Exactly that, I think. In the American Cinematographer article, DP Greig Fraser says... and I quote:

"With Gareth Edwards, we wanted to be attentive that the look be consistent with A New Hope, which is seared in our brains. We weren't necessarily trying to reproduce what it actually looked like, but how we remember it -- there's a difference between reality and the remembrance of reality. Part of our research was to look at the 4K scanned versions of A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back. They look fantastic, but they don't look how I remember them."

What I take away from this is: Greig Fraser, at the very least, is not a STAR WARS fanatic like a lot of us on these forums. I watch the movie about three times a year, and have done so for every year since it first came out. I know every frame of it; there's no difference between reality and the remembrance of reality, for me. Most people -- like Greig Fraser -- "have a life", for lack of a better phrase. They may consider themselves fans of the film, but they don't revisit it again and again, or particularly care which version it is.

[Nicolawicz]

I haven't seen Rogue One yet, but just their decision to shoot it digitally shows they don't really get it.