Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Geoff D]

Maths! **** yeah! (thanks for that, very interesting!)

[octagon]

Nobody knew that math could be so complicated.

[captveg]

Originally Posted by captveg

I do know for a fact - 100%, verified fact - that Disney is digitizing at 4k every scrap of film ever shot for Star Wars. That includes every alternate take and every separate element of an effects shot. All footage searchable by topic/character/key words, of course.

^ Read this again, guys. In due time (if not already finished) every piece of film in Lucasfilm's archive ever shot for the OT will be archived digitally.

The idea that the OT "doesn't exist anymore" is complete BS.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by dubious

It's really even more simplistic than that.

4/3 = (4:3) [1.33]
4/3 * 4/3 = 16/9 (16:9) [1.78]
4/3 * 4/3 * 4/3 = 64/27 (frequently simplified to 21:9 for marketing, it's actually 64/27 and not 63/27) [2.37]

Ohh, interesting. I knew about 16:9 being 4:3 squared, but not about the 21:9. Thanks for that.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by dubious

It's really even more simplistic than that.

4/3 = (4:3) [1.33]
4/3 * 4/3 = 16/9 (16:9) [1.78]
4/3 * 4/3 * 4/3 = 64/27 (frequently simplified to 21:9 for marketing, it's actually 64/27 and not 63/27) [2.37]

Interesting, but why would someone have the idea of creating a new aspect by multiplying 4/3 by itself?

[dubious]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Interesting, but why would someone have the idea of creating a new aspect by multiplying 4/3 by itself?

If I have to venture a guess, It's a half-way medium to arriving at ~scope from ~academy, 4/3 * 4/3 * 4/3. Digital interpolation is fairly simplistic, "given 3 pixels, create 4 for output," or "given 4 pixels, create 3 for output."

[stvn1974]

Math makes my head hurt. Let's get back to making fun of the prequels and trashing George Lucas.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by dubious

If I have to venture a guess, It's a half-way medium to arriving at ~scope from ~academy, 4/3 * 4/3 * 4/3. Digital interpolation is fairly simplistic, "given 3 pixels, create 4 for output," or "given 4 pixels, create 3 for output."

On a kind-of-not-really-but-maybe-related note, it's this simplicity which is why Blu-ray to UHD upscaling is so darned good: 1920x1080 into 3840x2160 requires a nice clean x2 uprez along each axis, it's a much harder process to get wrong than to get right IMO! Of all the things that 4K TVs got to worry about, upscaling people's current Blu-ray collections is NOT one of them.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by captveg

^ Read this again, guys. In due time (if not already finished) every piece of film in Lucasfilm's archive ever shot for the OT will be archived digitally.

The idea that the OT "doesn't exist anymore" is complete BS.

Not that I doubt you, was just curious where you read this?
I would be interested in checking it out.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by captveg

^ Read this again, guys. In due time (if not already finished) every piece of film in Lucasfilm's archive ever shot for the OT will be archived digitally.

The idea that the OT "doesn't exist anymore" is complete BS.

We don't need anything to confirm it's BS. We know it's BS.

The point is that, unless it's released, it doesn't matter if it was scanned or what they have.

[captveg]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Not that I doubt you, was just curious where you read this?
I would be interested in checking it out.

It's not something I *read*.

[captveg]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

The point is that, unless it's released, it doesn't matter if it was scanned or what they have.

It means a means of making major $$$ in the future when they decide to take advantage of it.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by captveg

It's not something I *read*.

Are you affiliated with LFL or know someone that is?
Again just curious as to the source of this, as its kind of big deal.

[captveg]

No, and sort of.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by captveg

No, and sort of.

Hmmmm...

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Are you affiliated with LFL or know someone that is?
Again just curious as to the source of this, as its kind of big deal.

Not as big a deal as the Burgundy.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Not as big a deal as the Burgundy.

How did you know I was thinking that when I posted....wait, don't tell me! I'm afraid of the answer.

[captveg]

Whether you guys believe me or not isn't the point (and I'm not gonna provide anything concrete for you guys to hold to, so no reason to ask).

The point is that Lucasfilm will be able to present the OOT in top quality in the future with little more work than they are already putting into their archiving efforts. I've seen the old "the OOTs no longer exist!" crap crop up again (not necessarily here), and it's just comes from a place of ignorance.

[dubious]

Originally Posted by captveg

Whether you guys believe me or not isn't the point (and I'm not gonna provide anything concrete for you guys to hold to, so no reason to ask).

The point is that Lucasfilm will be able to present the OOT in top quality in the future with little more work than they are already putting into their archiving efforts. I've seen the old "the OOTs no longer exist!" crap crop up again (not necessarily here), and it's just comes from a place of ignorance.

No doubt it is complete BS, as even the most rudimentary fan efforts have provided HD scans from badly faded prints. The resources and superior element sources in the archives should be able to provide a high quality restoration, even if the OCN are fubar'd, access to a near pristine LPP print could even provide the basis for a 4K preservation of the theatrical cuts.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by captveg

It means a means of making major $$$ in the future when they decide to take advantage of it.

Disney is releasing one movie a year that's making millions off of the franchise for them.

You're living in a fool's paradise if you think any home video release will bring them "major money" like that. *IF* they did it, it would be as a goodwill gesture for fans. It's not worth as much monetarily as you think it does.