Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Krypton_Son]

Bought this at Wal-Mart the other day. No digital codes or instawatch. That was kind of a bummer. Mine was missing the booklet too. Anyone have an extra one?

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

By definition, it's not fanfiction, because it's an official part of the Star Wars saga. Fanfics can't do that.

Sure, if you want to get technical and miss the point of my post: licensed fan fiction. Better?

Originally Posted by Hardback247

Where is the line crossed in order for something to be "fanfiction"? Is every Star Trek tv show and movie made after Gene Roddenberry died fanfiction? Is every Muppet production made after Jim Henson died fanfiction? Are they exempt because they’re made by studios who hire professional writers who know how to spell check? Who is the real keyholder to what is canon and what isn’t? Are all reboots, sequels, remakes and comic book adaptations just fanfiction on a big budget?

I'd call them that. You don't need to if you don't want to.

Originally Posted by octagon

So our only options at this point are no new Star Wars movies or so-called fan fiction.

Actually, there was an option: Adapt his story for the sequels and keep him as a consultant. Which (in case people have forgotten) is what was promised, on video, when the sale was announced. A promise which we only know they didn't keep because George happened to be asked about it during a press junket for a completely unrelated movie.

Originally Posted by octagon

Me? I'll take the fanfic, thanks.

Perfectly fine.

[Hardback247]

What about any of the thousands of Batman stories made over the past 78 years that weren't written by Bob Kane or Bill Finger? Is any of that fan fiction?

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by El_Fez

Or - and I know this is a shock - I have my own taste in movies. This taste in movies is different from yours. I know this is a crazy idea and all, but there it is.

Wait... You have your own opinion about something subjective that doesn't follow the bandwagon?

[Hardback247]

Calling an official entry in a movie series "fanfiction" is degrading to those many hundreds of people who worked their butts off to faithfully continue the legacy of a famous property, even without its creator.

[happydood]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Someone tried starting a thread on there asking people to try and define the x factor or what makes a Star Wars film for you. The three or four seriously deluded PT kissers all said "Whatever George Lucas says."

You can appreciate the good parts, schlocky dialogue, clumsy writing, and handmaid charm of the prequels and not be a 'prequel kisser.' I like that they have a voice. I like Ed Wood movies and John Carpenter movies because they have a voice even tho they're also pretty schlocky at times. I have a beagle with an eye that looks slightly crooked. She's ridiculous, but I wouldn't have her any other way. I'll never accept the 'everything is either solidly this way or solidly another' mentality that some folks have. Each to their own opinion and all that, but to suggest somebody is 'deluded' for liking them without being able to accept why seems, well, a little deluded.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

Calling an official entry in a movie series "fanfiction" is degrading to those many hundreds of people who worked their butts off to faithfully continue the legacy of a famous property, even without its creator.

Actually, if it was an official entry, it would have been labeled and martketed as Episode 7
It never was.

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Actually, if it was an official entry, it would have been labeled and martketed as Episode 7

It never was.

This is stupid and you're in denial.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Actually, if it was an official entry, it would have been labeled and martketed as Episode 7
It never was.

The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi weren't marketed as Episodes V and VI, even though they appear in their respective opening crawls, like The Force Awakens does. By your logic, they aren't official entries, either.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Actually, if it was an official entry, it would have been labeled and martketed as Episode 7
It never was.

That's it- you've cracked the code! The Force Awakens is not a real Star Wars movie. FAKE NEWS!

[Neon Rabbit]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Actually, if it was an official entry, it would have been labeled and martketed as Episode 7
It never was.

This means literally nothing. As another member stated, despite Episode numbers being in the title crawls of the latter 2 films, the original trilogy were never marketed by their episode numbers when originally released, and continued not to be until the 2000 VHS release.

The emphasis on the Episode number thing strarted with the prequels and then Lucasfilm eventually started to refer to the OT with those titles to unify the saga. You may even notice now that none of the films are marketed with numbers anymore. It pretty much stopped after the title of Episode 7 was announced. All of the films are now referred to as Star Wars, followed by the actual story title sans Episode number.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Actually, if it was an official entry, it would have been labeled and martketed as Episode 7
It never was.

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by Krypton_Son

Bought this at Wal-Mart the other day. No digital codes or instawatch. That was kind of a bummer. Mine was missing the booklet too. Anyone have an extra one?

Dude, return it! Immediately. Don't let it drive you to begging. It should've had both of those things! Be righteous! Be pissed!

[ahossein79]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Someone tried starting a thread on there asking people to try and define the x factor or what makes a Star Wars film for you. The three or four seriously deluded PT kissers all said "Whatever George Lucas says."

And their you have it......the reason their can be no civility between fans who have a difference of OPINIONS one side always resorts snide remarks or name calling. I consider myself a huge Star Wars fan who has lived and breathed the movies for 38 years, I have some friends who didn't like the PT but they didn't harp on the dislike they said meh not for me, but their is the sect who constantly harp on what they dislike and some even dislike what they are getting from Disney. Being a fan of everything Star Wars I actually believe it or not......enjoy the special editions but I am disappointed as hell at not getting the UOT on blu ray because I also think it is BS. If something gives you misery you should just stop and move on to something you enjoy life is too short to be a cynical disillusioned bitter fan

[Martoto]

I'm a George Lucas fan. Just saying "What George Lucas says." is something less than an "opinion".

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by meglos

I'm happy J.J. Abrams is getting a second film. So we can see what he can do with less limitations.

With The Force Awakens I'm sure J.J. Abrams' mandate from the bosses was to play it safe and don't do anything too far outside of the box. If fans hadn't been happy with first film it could have sunk a franchise that Disney had just acquired for $4.5 Billion. There was no way they were going to take that chance, especially after the Prequel backlash.

I tried explaining this a year before The Force Awakens was released. People were talking about rumors that Luke had been tortured by Sith Inquisitors in order to drive him to the Dark Side and he killed Han Solo. I told them there was no way that was going to happen, Luke's a brand character for starters, but ultimately, the real reason is that TFA *had* to be a mass-audience crowd-pleaser. It's the foundation of everything coming after. If they flopped right out of the gate, the shockwave wouldn't just be felt at LucasFilm, but throughout the entire Disney company. No pressure, right, JJ?

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

I tried explaining this a year before The Force Awakens was released. People were talking about rumors that Luke had been tortured by Sith Inquisitors in order to drive him to the Dark Side and he killed Han Solo. I told them there was no way that was going to happen, Luke's a brand character for starters, but ultimately, the real reason is that TFA *had* to be a mass-audience crowd-pleaser. It's the foundation of everything coming after. If they flopped right out of the gate, the shockwave wouldn't just be felt at LucasFilm, but throughout the entire Disney company. No pressure, right, JJ?

So he wasn't the one to kill Han. A variation of that could still be true!


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[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

So he wasn't the one to kill Han. A variation of that could still be true!

No way Luke goes evil. Heartbroken? Embittered? Sure. Does he need a kick in the pants to remove himself from sadness and exile? Maybe. Dark side? No chance in hell.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

No way Luke goes evil. Heartbroken? Embittered? Sure. Does he need a kick in the pants to remove himself from sadness and exile? Maybe. Dark side? No chance in hell.

Dark Empire

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Dark Empire

A story like that shows that The Force Awakens could have been A LOT worse. Why did anyone think it was a good idea for Palpatine to be resurrected and cloned?