Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by JEDGAR1000

Yeah that's the issue I'm bringing up. Ep 9 is generating less interest than 8 did at this same time. Less google searches, less trailer views; not to mention Star Wars' falling toy sales (while Marvel toy sales increase), falling comic sales, Galaxy's Edge's failure, Solo bombing, the cancellation of SW Resistance, etc.

Now I may very well be wrong, and I'll own up to it if I am, but I think the signs are there. I fully expect Ep 9 to make less than Ep 8, it'll still do well of course, but I don't think we're going to see that traditional third film increase. Especially considering Jumanji 2 was so well received and SW will be going up against it's third film, along with 1917, and Cats.

Maybe it's because The Rise of Skywalker's marketing push hasn't kicked in yet.

[TN05]

Definitely hopeful the 4K set is going to have the unaltered trilogy whenever it comes out. The remastered soundtracks Disney put out last year have Yub Nub instead of the special edition celebration theme.

[JEDGAR1000]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

Maybe it's because The Rise of Skywalker's marketing push hasn't kicked in yet.

Sure it'll get more over time, but that's not what I'm referring to. It's received less searches than the Last Jedi did when it's trailer first debuted.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by JEDGAR1000

Sure it'll get more over time, but that's not what I'm referring to. It's received less searches than the Last Jedi did when it's trailer first debuted.

I'm feeling pretty sad now.

[Deathbymonkeys]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

Okay, WHY did you want the characters in TLJ to die? That's just cruel.

Because every single last one is complete shit?

[Deathbymonkeys]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

No, they weren't. At the start of ANH, they didn't even know each other. In TFA, they were married and had a son.

Back in ANH, Han was very skeptical about the whole idea of the Force, and as exposited in TFA, he now understood the Force IS all real.

The reason Han went back to smuggling was because it was a coping mechanism for losing his son. It seems that you somehow forgot what the character motivations were.

Han solos defining character trait has been to help people out he empathizes with. He does it every time. Beckett. Qira. Chewie. Lando. Luke and Obi. Leia. The rebellion ect. Every freaking time. And you want to tell me the only person he abandones is his son without trying to save him? His charater motivations were complete shit in tfa just like Leia and Lukes. They were all written completely shitty.

[hanshotfirst1138]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

It DIDN'T revert to the same state as it was in A New Hope. The characters are all at a different place in their lives, and the First Order is technically a different beast from the Empire.

Yeah, but it’s still pretty shameless ripoff. I don’t love TLJ, but at least it did something NEW, to the point where it pissed off some people. Abrams doesn’t seem like he had an original idea in the entire film.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Deathbymonkeys

Because every single last one is complete shit?

There's no good rational reason for why Rose, in particular, should be getting this much hatred.

https://liusviews.wordpress.com/2018...ate-rose-tico/

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138

Abrams doesn’t seem like he had an original idea in the entire film.

We never saw a defecting Stormtrooper in any of the movies. We also never had a hero like Rey before.

[Falaskan]

Hardcore Star Wars fans are in the least...ignorant, in the most...bizarre, to put it nicely. They fail to realize their precious Space Opera is what it is because of time. Only the OT is what's considered classic. But if you notice, the PT is generally thought back on in fondness now, compared to the ST.

At this rate, your disgust for TLJ, which at many of your ages if likely adding to everything else that is clogging and weakening your aortic valves, is going to be beloved and heralded as the next ESB in about 10 years time.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Deathbymonkeys

And you want to tell me the only person he abandones is his son without trying to save him?

His son abandoned HIM. Not the other way around.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

At this rate, your disgust for TLJ, which at many of your ages if likely adding to everything else that is clogging and weakening your aortic valves, is going to be beloved and heralded as the next ESB in about 10 years time.

Back in 1980, people have actually had similar complaints to TESB that people have towards TLJ.

Critic & Fan Reactions from 1980 - STAR WARS: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - - YouTube

[Joshitaka]

Falaskan, come back in ten years and check.

[kidglov3s]

I think there's a gulf between something being beloved and something having vocal apologists.

[DCW]

Originally Posted by TN05

Definitely hopeful the 4K set is going to have the unaltered trilogy whenever it comes out. The remastered soundtracks Disney put out last year have Yub Nub instead of the special edition celebration theme.

I got real excited when those we're released that we were getting the unaltered cuts. I've since lost the faith.

[Alan_Grant]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

Hardcore Star Wars fans are in the least...ignorant, in the most...bizarre, to put it nicely. They fail to realize their precious Space Opera is what it is because of time. Only the OT is what's considered classic. But if you notice, the PT is generally thought back on in fondness now, compared to the ST.

At this rate, your disgust for TLJ, which at many of your ages if likely adding to everything else that is clogging and weakening your aortic valves, is going to be beloved and heralded as the next ESB in about 10 years time.

How am I ignorant? I have absolutely no issues with any of the main cast or supporting. I wish them no ill will. I also don't have "disgust" with TLJ. I think it's a terrible movie, most definitely, but the movie's existence does not make my blood boil in any way, shape or form. So take that condescending crap elsewhere.

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Joshitaka

Falaskan, come back in ten years and check.

I've been here almost 10 years as it is, I won't be here another 10. I doubt blu-rays will that big in 2030 either.

[SymbioticFunction]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

Back in 1980, people have actually had similar complaints to TESB that people have towards TLJ.

So do you actually think The Last Jedi is just as good a film as The Empire Strikes Back?

[Deathbymonkeys]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

There's no good rational reason for why Rose, in particular, should be getting this much hatred.

https://liusviews.wordpress.com/2018...ate-rose-tico/

Honestly shes not a bad character but her entire on screen story was horrible and poorly written around her. Shes the character I had the least problem with.

[Deathbymonkeys]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

His son abandoned HIM. Not the other way around.

Not the way Johnson wrote it. His son was being manipulated and instead of helping him his best friend tries to kill his son and he just gives up on him instantly. Its against EVERYTHING the Luke and Han characters were.